This sounds crazy, and probably is. Several years ago, someone on this thread wrote that they thought some of the SPs were shortprinted more than the others. I can remember thinking there is no way this could be accurate. However, over the years, I really wonder if there is some truth to that. I have wanted to trade with a couple of people this year, only to find out that SPs they needed were the same as the ones I needed. Coincidence, I suppose so. There are some of you that will think this is totally ridiculous, which is most likely true. But, then again, who would put a fake bubble gum smell on the back of a card? A company that was trying to make a whole lot of $$$$.
Which ones do you think were the tough ones this year, Craig?
In past years I may have agreed since I seemed to pull doubles and triples of some SPs out of my hobby and retail boxes but not the ones I still needed. However, since I bought a sealed hobby case this year and last I was able to complete the SP set both times from the one case so collation seems pretty fair (at least within a sealed case).
You know I thought I was all done ripping last week, so I started trading, and what do I do the last 2 days, Buy more to rip??? Anybody ever do that, or am I the only one. IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
You know I thought I was all done ripping last week, so I started trading, and what do I do the last 2 days, Buy more to rip??? Anybody ever do that, or am I the only one. IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
Dave I think a lot of us do that lol. We can trade when you get me your needs list when you put one together.
<< <i>You know I thought I was all done ripping last week, so I started trading, and what do I do the last 2 days, Buy more to rip??? Anybody ever do that, or am I the only one. IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
Dave I think a lot of us do that lol. We can trade when you get me your needs list when you put one together. >>
I should have an updated list posted tomorrow or so DAVE
<< <i>This sounds crazy, and probably is. Several years ago, someone on this thread wrote that they thought some of the SPs were shortprinted more than the others. I can remember thinking there is no way this could be accurate. However, over the years, I really wonder if there is some truth to that. I have wanted to trade with a couple of people this year, only to find out that SPs they needed were the same as the ones I needed. Coincidence, I suppose so. There are some of you that will think this is totally ridiculous, which is most likely true. But, then again, who would put a fake bubble gum smell on the back of a card? A company that was trying to make a whole lot of $$$$.
Craig in Ohio >>
In the earlier sets where some of the sp's were in the lower numbers, some cards can be a pain to find at a reasonable price. I suspect this is because there are collectors that only collect the non sp's but need the lower number sp's to fill in the "holes". Thus creating increased demand for some sp's. An example is the 2005 Heritage set where Jim Edmonds, Kaz Ishii, and Cesar Izturis remain a thorn in my side, nearly two years after I decided to start collecting those sets.
Are the ssp's not as "short printed" as in the past? In previous years ssp's seemed to sell for quite a bit more than this year. I've been able to win several ebay auctions with bids under $30, some under $25. Or is there just less interest in the ssp's this year?
<< <i>In the earlier sets where some of the sp's were in the lower numbers, some cards can be a pain to find at a reasonable price. I suspect this is because there are collectors that only collect the non sp's but need the lower number sp's to fill in the "holes". Thus creating increased demand for some sp's. An example is the 2005 Heritage set where Jim Edmonds, Kaz Ishii, and Cesar Izturis remain a thorn in my side, nearly two years after I decided to start collecting those sets. >>
I have a lot of experience with this and see a hundred heritage wantlists a year at least. And its true that everyone tends to be needing the short prints that are in the low #s, (pre 2008 they were mixed all around) This definitely leads to vary rare sp's, but I do not really think that they were manufactured by topps in different ratios.
By far, the most rare sp, and it is on nearly EVERYONE's list is the 2005 #20 jim edmonds. I can never keep that one in stock.
Posada's and Jeters are always tough to find and keep around but that is mainly due to demand and that they are yankees. Same issue with Bernie Williams SP #82 from 2002.
But no real explanation for #20 Edmonds. The #260Iztauris and #79 Ishii are much more readily available and I would attribute their rarity to simply being accidentally discarded as base cards (as was #5 todd helton, #30 Hideo Nomo, and #33 vlad, and #292 sweeney. But edmonds is a whole 'nother category!
Ad Panel 7 SP 3 NAP 3 T&N 2 NFB 2 BFB 1 SSP 1 ER? (60) 1 Chrome /999 1 Black /66 Kemp Relic
No auto or punch board in my boxes. Oh well. It was cool getting a black, but I gotta say not only is the hit rate disappointing, but the photos are pretty lackluster, outside of the action variations.
I'll be sorting Sunday and hopefully have my needs/have list by Monday.
52-90 All Sports, Mostly Topps, Mostly HOF, and some assorted wax.
Following up on my previous post, I just won a ssp Shelby Miller traded (1:2310 packs) for $16.01. I now have eight of the twelve ssp's and have paid what, in previous years, might have bought me two cards. The throwback uniforms (1:3310) seem to be where the money is going, since they are more short printed than the ssp's. Are they then sssp's?
I thing the last 3 years have been slow trading. I guess it's because if anyone buys a full case you end up with a master set or very close to one. I am stuck right now there is much more I want and I lost my job of 34 years lol I should have never started this project this year. I will post what I have to trade soon.
My Needs are
,428,441,442,446,447,448,455,456,475,477,491,496, NAP 6,7,11,16,18,19
Comments
Anyway, picked up a box and 6 packs at lunch today. Ripping to commence in 4 hours
WTT:
Have a color swap of Tanaka to trade.
Want a color swap of one of the following: Posey, Abreu, Harper, or Wright.
Send PM
Thanx-- Craig in Ohio
more than the others. I can remember thinking there is no way this could be accurate. However, over the years, I really wonder if there
is some truth to that. I have wanted to trade with a couple of people this year, only to find out that SPs they needed were the same as the
ones I needed. Coincidence, I suppose so. There are some of you that will think this is totally ridiculous, which is most likely true. But, then
again, who would put a fake bubble gum smell on the back of a card? A company that was trying to make a whole lot of $$$$.
Craig in Ohio
In past years I may have agreed since I seemed to pull doubles and triples of some SPs out of my hobby and retail boxes but not the ones I still needed. However, since I bought a sealed hobby case this year and last I was able to complete the SP set both times from the one case so collation seems pretty fair (at least within a sealed case).
Andy--
Numbers: 430, 437, 454, 455, 458, 476, & 486. These seem to be very hard to come by-- perhaps
all in one box? Not sure.
Craig
http://www.psacard.com/PSASetRegistry/alltimeset.aspx?s=114092
IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
You know I thought I was all done ripping last week, so I started trading, and what do I do the last 2 days, Buy more to rip??? Anybody ever do that, or am I the only one.
IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
Dave I think a lot of us do that lol. We can trade when you get me your needs list when you put one together.
<< <i>I can't believe I've now posted over 7200 times here. I don't think I've even farted that many times since 2007.
Anyway, picked up a box and 6 packs at lunch today. Ripping to commence in 4 hours >>
I'd ask the wife on that one...
Depending on what you had for lunch, did ripping commence?
<< <i>You know I thought I was all done ripping last week, so I started trading, and what do I do the last 2 days, Buy more to rip??? Anybody ever do that, or am I the only one.
IM glad heritage only comes out once a year. DAVE
Dave I think a lot of us do that lol. We can trade when you get me your needs list when you put one together. >>
I should have an updated list posted tomorrow or so DAVE
<< <i>This sounds crazy, and probably is. Several years ago, someone on this thread wrote that they thought some of the SPs were shortprinted
more than the others. I can remember thinking there is no way this could be accurate. However, over the years, I really wonder if there
is some truth to that. I have wanted to trade with a couple of people this year, only to find out that SPs they needed were the same as the
ones I needed. Coincidence, I suppose so. There are some of you that will think this is totally ridiculous, which is most likely true. But, then
again, who would put a fake bubble gum smell on the back of a card? A company that was trying to make a whole lot of $$$$.
Craig in Ohio >>
In the earlier sets where some of the sp's were in the lower numbers, some cards can be a pain to find at a reasonable price. I suspect this is because there are collectors that only collect the non sp's but need the lower number sp's to fill in the "holes". Thus creating increased demand for some sp's. An example is the 2005 Heritage set where Jim Edmonds, Kaz Ishii, and Cesar Izturis remain a thorn in my side, nearly two years after I decided to start collecting those sets.
Already jonesing for more
<< <i>I can't believe I've now posted over 7200 times here. I don't think I've even farted that many times since 2007.
Anyway, picked up a box and 6 packs at lunch today. Ripping to commence in 4 hours >>
Holy poop. Mike is ALIVE!!!!!!!!!
Been reading this thread and drooling all along lol
nice to be back
Dan - The Hernandez came from one of the loose backs - the other 2 came from the box. Was that not normal?
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
<< <i>In the earlier sets where some of the sp's were in the lower numbers, some cards can be a pain to find at a reasonable price. I suspect this is because there are collectors that only collect the non sp's but need the lower number sp's to fill in the "holes". Thus creating increased demand for some sp's. An example is the 2005 Heritage set where Jim Edmonds, Kaz Ishii, and Cesar Izturis remain a thorn in my side, nearly two years after I decided to start collecting those sets. >>
I have a lot of experience with this and see a hundred heritage wantlists a year at least. And its true that everyone tends to be needing the short prints that are in the low #s, (pre 2008 they were mixed all around) This definitely leads to vary rare sp's, but I do not really think that they were manufactured by topps in different ratios.
By far, the most rare sp, and it is on nearly EVERYONE's list is the 2005 #20 jim edmonds. I can never keep that one in stock.
Posada's and Jeters are always tough to find and keep around but that is mainly due to demand and that they are yankees. Same issue with Bernie Williams SP #82 from 2002.
But no real explanation for #20 Edmonds. The #260Iztauris and #79 Ishii are much more readily available and I would attribute their rarity to simply being accidentally discarded as base cards (as was #5 todd helton, #30 Hideo Nomo, and #33 vlad, and #292 sweeney. But edmonds is a whole 'nother category!
Topps Heritage - Trade Page
<< <i>
<< <i>I can't believe I've now posted over 7200 times here. I don't think I've even farted that many times since 2007.
Anyway, picked up a box and 6 packs at lunch today. Ripping to commence in 4 hours >>
+1
I'd ask the wife on that one...
Depending on what you had for lunch, did ripping commence? >>
+1
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
Ad Panel
7 SP
3 NAP
3 T&N
2 NFB
2 BFB
1 SSP
1 ER? (60)
1 Chrome /999
1 Black /66
Kemp Relic
No auto or punch board in my boxes. Oh well. It was cool getting a black, but I gotta say not only is the hit rate disappointing, but the photos are pretty lackluster, outside of the action variations.
I'll be sorting Sunday and hopefully have my needs/have list by Monday.
What a surprise!
Craig from Texas
MY TOPPS BLOG -- CHECK IT OUT!!!
What I Need:
SPs - 434, 441, 445, 450, 454, 463, 474, 476, 477, 486, 493, and 500.
What I have to trade:
SPs - 426, 455, 467, and 497.
Chromes /999 - 437.
Refractors /566 - 110, 275, 431, and 483.
Purple Refractors - 1, 140, 150, 250, 300, 320, 356, 436, 438, 441, 443, 444, 445, 451, 462, 466, 467, 469, 474, 477, and 497.
NAP - 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 12, 15, 16, and 18.
T&N - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
BF - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10.
NF - 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
CC - Freddie Freeman, Billy Hamilton, Zack Greinke, Christian Yelich, Matt Kemp, Adrian Beltre, David Wright, and Adam Wainwright.
Mini - 452 Jordan Zimmermann.
I am stuck right now there is much more I want and I lost my job of 34 years lol I should have never started this project this year. I will post what I have to trade soon.
My Needs are
,428,441,442,446,447,448,455,456,475,477,491,496, NAP 6,7,11,16,18,19
Action variations 300 McCuthen 444 Bautista 447 Sale 450 Puig 455 Altuve 462 Hernandez 472 Kimbrel 473 Gonzalez 483 Wainwright 497 Darvish
Purple chrome at some point
<< <i>Hi gang! Just wanted to give a shout out to Dave. You know him here as "magellan". Read this blog post about what he did. Incredible.
What a surprise!
Craig from Texas >>
David also sent me a gratis SP. helluva nice guy!
<< <i>
<< <i>Hi gang! Just wanted to give a shout out to Dave. You know him here as "magellan". Read this blog post about what he did. Incredible.
What a surprise!
Craig from Texas >>
David also sent me a gratis SP. helluva nice guy! >>
WOW!!! Thanks for sharing that.
Needs:
Base 1: 292,226
Base 2: 419,413,331,318,316,292,289,226,172,136,86,60,53,46,21
News: 4,9
Ryan: All
Koufax: All
SP's: 500,499,498,497,496,491,489,179,475,467,461,460,455,451,449,441,439,438,437,432,426
Chrome: 1,25,60,75,100,140,150,260,275,350,375,427,429,431,433,434,436,439,440,441,442,444,445,448,449,450,451,453,457,458,459,461,462,465,466,467,468,469,470,471,475,477,478,480,481,483,486,487,490,491,495,496,499,500
Errors: Tillman, Chisenhall
Color Swap: 25,100,200,250,300,310,350,426,442,444,445,459,484,500
Bryce Harper: Chrome, foil, refractors, relics, autos, color, action, mini, gum stain, blue back
Available:
Base: tons
Relics: Beltre, Gattis x2, Freeman, Ryu x2, H Ramirez, Scherzer, Braun x2, Wright
Mini's: Gordon, Puig
Refractors: 447,434,487,375,437,469,428,474,75,250,430,462,455,466,472,400,479,60,488,470,497,340,1
Purple: 479,468,455,400,375,139,483
Chrome: 270,446
Gum: 51,158,230,332,255,159,410,174,237,447
Color Swap: 455
Auto: Albie Pearson blue
Relic auto: Puig
Action: 350,350,498,498,491,491,467,444,444,475,472,300
SP's: 427,427,429,431,436,442,444,448,448,452,452,456,462,464,464,466,468,469,469,470,473,478,481,483,484,484,488,495,495,499
NAP: 1,1,2,2,2,4,4,4,4,4,7,7,9,9,9,9,10,11,11,11,12,12,12,12,12,13,13,13,13,14,15,16,16,17,18,18,18,19,19,19
News: 1,2,3,5,7,8,10,10
Baseball: 3,4,7,7,9,9
T&N: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,5,6,6,6,7,8,8,8,8,10,10
Thanks
For Sale
Just doing my part to pay it forward.
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
WTT:Action Image:
Will trade one of the following Action Images for Action Image of Tanaka.
Jones, Ortiz,Sale, Cabrera, or Strasburg
Send PM
Thanks-- Craig in Ohio
12, 28, 34, 47, 51, 90, 122, 149, 161, 163, 185, 218, 263, 268, 274, 286, 306, 340, 356, 362, 371, 403, 406
SP Needs:
426-435, 437, 439, 441, 445, 446, 450, 452-455, 458-460, 463, 464, 467, 469, 470, 472, 473, 475-478, 482, 486-489, 491-495, 497, 500
SP Extras:
443, 448, 456, 457, 479 x2, 498
BFB Needs:
4, 5, 7, 9, 10
BFB Extras:
1, 2, 8
NFB Needs:
2, 3, 5, 8, 10
NFB Extras:
1 x2, 4, 6, 7
NAP Needs:
4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 17, 18, 20
NAP Extras:
2, 8, 12, 14
T&N Needs:
4, 8
T&N Extras:
1 x2, 7, 10
Also interested in Kershaw Action and Chrome
Other items for trade:
Heyward error, Longoria mini, Rendon Chrome /999, Pujols Chrome /999, Iwakuma Black /66, Retail Foil 270, 275, 320, 400
Please PM if we can help each other.
Thanks
Jim
i don't have my excess stock totally organized but here is my best update for now:
Refractors Needed (28):
50 60 139 140 260 400 427 432 433 434
435 439 443 444 448 454 457 461 464 468
472 475 478 480 488 490 491 499
action needed: 450Puig 462FHer
chrome: 480
purple: 480
refractor: 480
Available:
many sp's, so just ask.
kyle calhoun SSP
handful of panels and buybacks
andre ethier gum
giancarlo stanton bat relic
chrome: 110 250 270x2 310 320 356 430 485x2 492 493
action: 300 428 455
purple: 300 434 437 439 460 462 463 474 489
refractors: 340 430x2 452x2 463 471
2009 heritage brian barton blue ink
Plenty from previous years too, if you have holes.
Topps Heritage - Trade Page
This has been happening for weeks now.
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
498-489-489-488-488-486-486-475-474-474-473-473-469-469-455-446-466-436-375-375-175-100100-50-50
Needs:
Koufax: all but 6
Ryan: all but 1,10,12
SP's: 499,491,489,460,455,451,449, 438,437
Chrome: 25,60,75,100,140,150,260,350,427,431,433,436,439,440,441,442,444,445,448,450,451
457,458,459,461,462,465,466,468,469,471,477,480,481,483,486,487,490,495,496,500
Errors: Tillman, Chisenhall
Color Swap: 25,100,200,250,300,310,350,442,444,445,459,484,500
Bryce Harper: Chrome, foil, refractors, relics, autos, color, action, mini, gum stain, blue back
Available:
Base: tons
Relics: Beltre, Gattis x2, Freeman, Ryu x2, Braun x2, Wright
Mini's: Gordon
Refractors: 447,487,375,437,469,428,474,75,250,430,462,455,466,400,479,470,497,340,1
Chrome: 270,446
Gum: 51,158,230,332,255,159,410,174,237,447
Color Swap: 455
Auto: Albie Pearson blue
Relic auto: Puig
Action: 350,350,498,498,491,444,444,475,472
SP's: 427,427,429,444,448,452,452,464,464,466,469,469,470,473,478,481,483,484,495
NAP: 1,2,2,2,4,4,4,4,4,7,7,9,9,9,9,10,11,11,11,12,12,12,12,12,13,13,13,13,14,15,16,16,17,18,1818,19,19
News: 1,2,3,5,7,8,10,10
Baseball: 3,4,7,7,9,9
T&N: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,3,5,6,6,6,7,8,8,8,8,10,10
For Sale
<< <i>Anyone doing the rainbow foil set? I have these for trade
498-489-489-488-488-486-486-475-474-474-473-473-469-469-455-446-466-436-375-375-175-100100-50-50 >>
I have a bunch too if people want them.
Also a chrome #428 Longoria
Jmaciu's Collection
<< <i>What colors are involved in this years rainbow foil addition? >>
just one parallel set that I know of from target. I can't remember if they are available in walmart packs. No red and blue this year.
W
<< <i>I have consistently had to type in the next page # on the address bar to get the thread to switch.
This has been happening for weeks now. >>
+1
<< <i>
<< <i>What colors are involved in this years rainbow foil addition? >>
just one parallel set that I know of from target. I can't remember if they are available in walmart packs. No red and blue this year.
W >>
It was in all retail. I got mine at Kmart and Walmart.
I was able to get a local person to fill the base set needs, but here are my needs from the SP list:
426, 427, 428, 432, 435, 437, 438, 439, 440, 443, 444, 445, 447, 449, 451, 453, 454, 459, 461, 462, 464, 465, 466, 467, 470, 471, 473, 477, 480, 481, 483, 484, 485, 495, 496, 497, 498, 499 & 500.
I have the following SPs to trade:
434, 436, 441, 442, 455, 456, 463
Any help would be appreciated.
Choo Choo
Getting closer.
What I Need:
SPs - 450, 474, 476, 477, 486, and 500.
What I have to trade:
SPs - 455.
Chromes /999 - 437.
Refractors /566 - 110, 275, 431, and 483.
Purple Refractors - 140, 250, 300, 320, 356, 438, 441, 443, 444, 445, 451, 462, 466, 467, 469, 474, 477, and 497.
NAP - 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 12, 15, 16, and 18.
T&N - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
BF - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10.
NF - 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
CC - Freddie Freeman, Billy Hamilton, Zack Greinke, Christian Yelich, Matt Kemp, Adrian Beltre, David Wright, and Adam Wainwright.
Mini - 452 Jordan Zimmermann.
<< <i>Big thanks to magellan (Dave), DanBesstte (Dan), parkerj (Jim), ssdawg77 (Stoney), and kmnorton (Choo Choo) for some good trades.
Getting closer.
What I Need:
SPs - 445, 450, 454, 474, 476, 477, 486, 493, and 500.
What I have to trade:
SPs - 455.
Chromes /999 - 437.
Refractors /566 - 110, 275, 431, and 483.
Purple Refractors - 1, 140, 150, 250, 300, 320, 356, 436, 438, 441, 443, 444, 445, 451, 462, 466, 467, 469, 474, 477, and 497.
NAP - 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 12, 15, 16, and 18.
T&N - 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
BF - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10.
NF - 1, 2, 3, 7, 8, 9, and 10.
CC - Freddie Freeman, Billy Hamilton, Zack Greinke, Christian Yelich, Matt Kemp, Adrian Beltre, David Wright, and Adam Wainwright.
Mini - 452 Jordan Zimmermann. >>
LOL, Nick are you sure we made a trade buddy?
Now collecting:
Topps Heritage
1957 Topps BB Ex+-NM
All Yaz Items 7+
Various Red Sox
Did I leave anything out?
<< <i>LOL, Nick are you sure we made a trade buddy? >>
In my head we did. lol It was Tiller (Dave).
We made tons in the past, so my thank you stands.