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How many coins have two PCGS cert numbers? - Amazing Broken 1884-CC Morgan!
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This is one of the coolest photos from ANA I've seen thanks to Mike!
How many coins simultaneously have more than one PCGS cert number (aside from crackouts)?
This would be a great use of the PCGS dual holder. Also, if these were separated, how would you know the top coin's date/mm unless you had the bottom one too?
This is now owned by Allen Rowe of Northern Nevada Coin:
1884-CC Morgan Dollar Mated Pair Split After Strike - Mike Byers, Allen Rowe Specimens
https://northernnevadacoin.com/amazing-broken-cc/
How many coins simultaneously have more than one PCGS cert number (aside from crackouts)?
This would be a great use of the PCGS dual holder. Also, if these were separated, how would you know the top coin's date/mm unless you had the bottom one too?
This is now owned by Allen Rowe of Northern Nevada Coin:
1884-CC Morgan Dollar Mated Pair Split After Strike - Mike Byers, Allen Rowe Specimens
https://northernnevadacoin.com/amazing-broken-cc/
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Dual holder candidate for sure.
Dave
<< <i>Dual holder candidate for sure. >>
I saw those at the show and that was my first thought too...
Way cool
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<< <i>What is the purpose of putting this single coin in two different holders with two different cert #s? I would have put it in a double holder or in a larger holder with the coin split because it is the same coin it should not have different cert#s. If two holders were the only option they shoul have the same cert# with the label stating top and bottom with a holder#1 and holder #2. Of course this is just my opinion. >>
It might be that they didn't offer double holders when this coin was certified (just guessing). But that would look ultra-cool in a double holder. Outstanding piece.
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> By the way, that "Broken CC" dollar is owned by Northern Nevada Coin and it is not for sale. They have a page about the coin on their website as well.
I can understand that it's not for sale when their tag line is: NORTHERN NEVADA COIN • Home of the "Amazing Broken CC"
Here's the link to their Amazing Broken CC webpage. Thanks for the photo and info Mike!
<< <i>What would the value of this coin be if sold today? >>
From the PCGS Price Guide:
3450668: $265
3450669: $265
But I wonder if that's $265 x2 for the 2 certs or just $265 total since each cert is 1/2 a coin
I'm not really sure but there are some amazing Morgan errors out there. I imagine if would be expensive to assemble them into one set.
<< <i>Also, if these were separated, how would you know the top coin's date/mm unless you had the bottom one too? >>
Because the mint mark would be on that piece, and since it's a CC, it wouldn't be hard to match it up with known CC reverses and determine the date.
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<< <i>Also, if these were separated, how would you know the top coin's date/mm unless you had the bottom one too? >>
Because the mint mark would be on that piece, and since it's a CC, it wouldn't be hard to match it up with known CC reverses and determine the date. >>
Ah yes
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Here's another I ran across. Not as impressive as a clean break but one coin with two holders!
https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/lots/view/3-OKZ3R/1883-liberty-nickel-no-cents-mated-pair-planchet-lamination-with-detached-piece-ef-45-pcgs
I wonder if the separation came after the coin was found, or if the two pieces were in a 'bag' of coins....Not important, just curious. Cheers, RickO
I'm impressed that the two pieces were circulated down to XF.
They could of at least identified the Liberty Nickel as the No Cents variety.
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That would be nice. It should go back. It would be nice to get that attribution in a dual holder with TrueViews
VERY cooL!
I like the solid gasket holders better than the current prong versions though. TrueViews could be taken through the legacy holders to save them.
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Interesting coin. Nice.
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1968-D Split Quarter - Partial Reverse Clad Layer Missing - NGC XF45
1968-D Split Quarter - Partial Reverse Clad Layer - NGC XF45
Yet another one:
Photos by Hendrix Electric.
Wow, these are some amazing “coins”. At what point are they just considered damaged metal and no longer a coin?
Yes, I sold this unique mint error to Allen Rowe of Northern Nevada Coins. Here is a link from my archive which has more information on this coin:
https://mikebyers.com/uniquemorganmatedpair.html
It was also featured in my mint error coin book.
I was working at Coin World for some of the GSA sales and I remember when the GSA sent us a press release for this coin, saying that it would be sent at random to some lucky buyer. Good publicity stunt to boost sales as far as I am concerned. They said that they would include a letter with the coin explaining the significance of the error and asking the recipient to contact them when he or she got it.
Months go by and no word back. Finally the wrote to the buyer (they had picked him at random but kept track of his information) and asked him if he had received it. He replied that he had but he had not opened the package. Should he?
The coin could have sat unopened for decades!
TD
Mr Byers,
you have certainly handled the greatest u.s. mint errors imaginable!
I owned this one many years ago ...
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
Great info Mike!
I've added your name to the OP
I just noticed I can't call this coin the "Mike Byers, Allen Rowe Specimen", it has to be the "Mike Byers, Allen Rowe Specimens" plural
I own a pair of split after strike Liberty Nickels. I also own one half of a split after strike. Would love to find the other half. It should be in an ANACS holder somewhere.
We had a discussion on this the other day. Is this a “split planchet “ or a “split coin?”
Should simply be described as “1890 5c Obverse (Reverse) Half Split After Strike” IMO.
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Some very interesting coins.
Thanks to all for showing and providing especially the history that goes along with them.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Here's one from @CascadeChris I just ran across again called Zombie.
I like how the detached piece is an ERror
https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/984747/i-like-ike-post-your-eisenhowers
It was posted back in 2017, and I just noticed he hasn't logged in for over a year!
Hope he comes back soon!
From Northern Nevada Coin like the Broken CC.
This one even has two TrueViews!