The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock.
The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock. >>
The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock. >>
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Agree. Needs an acetone bath. Also, it may have been cleaned based on the many hairlines visible in those lousy pics.
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The fields, especially in from the face, look a bit like they do when I use the "free hand painting" option on my photo processing software.
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I am going to guess it is in either an AU 50 or AU 53 holder. Looks like a problem coin to me, but the images might be giving it a weird look that doesn't exist when the coin is in hand.
Your last pic with the slab shows more luster that your other pics so the AU50 grade is reasonable. I'd let PCGS review your coin because your close up pics do show putty.
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For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3.
<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
With all due respect, it would behoove anyone looking at those photos to be able to recognize the telltale bluish-white haze of "putty." That how it looks in photographs. That color cannot be mistaken for normal wear on a gold coin.
That coin has something on its surface. It was placed there intentionally to hide marks and wear to try to obtain a higher grade.
<< <i> Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
In this case, the coin may have been doctored to try to minimize hairlines to get the coin out of a body bag (in the rattler days) and into a straight-graded holder. That is reason enough to putty the coin.
i have to chime in and say putty. the good news is that the coin will most likely grade au50 anyway. the bad news is that you'll have to lose the holder. acetone will take it right off. it's most likely a nice coin. what i would do is crack it myself, acetone it...make sure you know how to do this...then submit it raw. you may even get au53 or 55. good luck
<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
Oh, but they will ... Smoothing out the fields to make them look better makes the coin easier to sell. I don't know that there are too many collectors around who would call any Three Dollar Gold Piece "common."
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<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
With all due respect, it would behoove anyone looking at those photos to be able to recognize the telltale bluish-white haze of "putty." That how it looks in photographs. That color cannot be mistaken for normal wear on a gold coin.
That coin has something on its surface. It was placed there intentionally to hide marks and wear to try to obtain a higher grade. >>
Agree. Putty was used on both rare and common date gold coins to increase the grade by hiding light circulation and to hide hide hairlines that would have gotten a coin body bagged in the past or in a no-grade genuine slab currently. Sometimes putty doesn't become visible until long after a coin has been slabbed.
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The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock.
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The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock. >>
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<< <i>AU Details Altered Surfaces (Puttied)
The telltale bluish-white signs of a painted/doctored/puttied coin, especially visible in the second set of photos. There's a lot of it, both obverse and reverse, but it's most visible on the obverse fields from 7-8 o'clock. >>
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Agree. Needs an acetone bath. Also, it may have been cleaned based on the many hairlines visible in those lousy pics.
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Huh? Care to elaborate?
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The fields, especially in from the face, look a bit like they do when I use the "free hand painting" option on my photo processing software.
might be giving it a weird look that doesn't exist when the coin is in hand.
Second picture "body bagged" coin
Tough to tell from the second picture.
From the second picture........body bagged.
Hard to tell from the pictures, but this is alway fun.
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<< <i>Definite putty work IMO. Obviously not noticeable when the coin was first encapsulated but manifesting itself now. >>
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<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
With all due respect, it would behoove anyone looking at those photos to be able to recognize the telltale bluish-white haze of "putty." That how it looks in photographs. That color cannot be mistaken for normal wear on a gold coin.
That coin has something on its surface. It was placed there intentionally to hide marks and wear to try to obtain a higher grade.
<< <i> Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
In this case, the coin may have been doctored to try to minimize hairlines to get the coin out of a body bag (in the rattler days) and into a straight-graded holder. That is reason enough to putty the coin.
<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
Oh, but they will ... Smoothing out the fields to make them look better makes the coin easier to sell. I don't know that there are too many collectors around who would call any Three Dollar Gold Piece "common."
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<< <i>For all the people who said putty, or definitely putty, it is the pics that fooled you. Additionally, I do not believe anyone is really going to putty a common date AU50 $3. >>
With all due respect, it would behoove anyone looking at those photos to be able to recognize the telltale bluish-white haze of "putty." That how it looks in photographs. That color cannot be mistaken for normal wear on a gold coin.
That coin has something on its surface. It was placed there intentionally to hide marks and wear to try to obtain a higher grade. >>
Agree. Putty was used on both rare and common date gold coins to increase the grade by hiding light circulation and to hide hide hairlines that would have gotten a coin body bagged in the past or in a no-grade genuine slab currently. Sometimes putty doesn't become visible until long after a coin has been slabbed.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire