After the senate voted 68-32 to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill (all 32 votes against it came from republicans), the house of representatives did nothing to pass it. No vote was taken by republican leadership. It's Fox "News" so it must be true...
Republicans are stonewalling any and all attempts at progress in this country.
<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
And that's what the liberal education system is pouring into the head of our youth. My daughter changed her views after college. The problem is they are a captive audience and must listen to one side and not get the opposing view point. When we discuss things with her she argues, do you think the professor gets his points questioned or do they just sit and listen to the polished one sided rhetoric.
Raising minimum wage will cost jobs as it will raise costs for employers, that has to be made up somewhere and the most likely candidate is letting a few people go.
Open the borders so more can come in and take the jobs and the freebees and vote for more entitlements. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
So BFD. I earned $2.00 an hour while going to college. Translates to your $8.00 now.
After college, earned $200 a week or $5 an hour the first six months and $600 a week 2 years later. Started my own business at 25, started my own business. It was 1982 in Detroit and the economy sucked. Didn't wait for permission from Washington DC, just did it.
<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
The above, AND your other posts, tell an awful lot....
You are "one of those".....living at home, getting a degree in a very low paying field (for the majority) that isn't well respected nor on the higher pay list. You feel entitled. You want, for free or minimum effort, what others have. Whether it has been handed to them (inherited) or they have worked hard for it. You see yourself as better than most. You play at being an academic. You think you know economics and job markets better...and why things happen the way they do. You are an armchair politician. You mom/parents probably worked hard but didn't make much (that's the case with mine, so it isn't a slam....it's an observation) and you feel you are better than that. A college degree...which you may be the first in your immediate family to receive....makes you so much better than others.
Well, here's MY little personal story and why I agree with everyone else who is telling you that it is up TO YOU, not any boss/manager/owner to better YOURSELF....
I was an academic back in high school. I had offers/scholarships to HUNDREDS of colleges. We also had NO money. I graduated with barely $100 and my parents couldn't help. I turned it all down, because there are more expenses than just tuition and room&board (travel back and forth, laundry, extra food, gas for a car (if you have one), car payments (mine was a paid off $600 car that was quite dinged up but was safe and driveable), insurance, etc).
So, I joined the army, with a bonus for my speciality, so I could send some money back to help my parents AND pay my own way. I had a chance, while I was in, and was accepted to West Point. I ended up, after 6mo of going that direction, turning it down so I could get out after 4 years active, since I had done some soul searching and knew I didn't want to be career military (GREAT opportunity that I turned down, but it was my choice at the time). I got out and applied for, and was accepted, to a local state college. I WORKED 3-4 JOBS (administrative, restaurant, etc) at the time I was taking a FULL load (15-19 credits per quarter including day AND night school...and working FT in the summer) while living away from home. I didn't whine. I even ended up with college loans. I didn't whine. They were my choice and my responsibility. Others partied and their parents paid the bills PLUS. That's life.
I was IN and OUT of college in 4 years with a business degree (and, if my college would have recognized it, 3 specialties within). I had the focus to graduate after 2.75 years, but not the credits. I had to take extras because of the university rules. I played by the rules and still graduated with a good GPA and all the while working and self-supporting.
When I got out, there were no entry level business jobs that made sense for me (I didn't like accounting and that's what was available at the time and in the vast location areas here and where I looked). I still didn't whine. I ended up with a retail job. I did 1 year there and realized I was good but didn't like it.
I kept trying to better myself and learn. I was told about another job that was happening....computer support over the phone. I interviewed and was hired, on the spot, as a LEAD. Salaried. I did that for a year and was pulled to another company, as a contracted tester. I went through 6 interviews and didn't know it all, but I had the aptitude and the attitude, they said, and they hired me. I did 18 months of that. I turned down FT spots as they offered "just under $30k/yr" back then when I was making 50%+ more because of my overtime.
After that, I was told about a spot through contacts I had made and went FT. I am NOWHERE near as wealthy as many there. Nor elsewhere. Not even in my neighborhood nor my son's network of friend's parents. But, I don't whine about it. I work like I want. I try to learn more and better myself.
I LOOK FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF WORK...and don't go for the lowpaying jobs (ahem.....health administration).
So, go cry a river as some of us have had it worse/harder than you AND survived because we worked hard at it and tried to better ourselves.
So, you know what, stop whining about what you THINK you deserve...because you DON'T! Work for things. Stop looking for the handouts. Stop making excuses. STOP TRYING TO THINK YOU ARE BETTER AND SMARTER than everyone else (you aren't......and, I don't think that of me as many on these boards are nicer/smarter/wealthier than I am...and I know that and accept it).
BTW....CRH......your political postings are enough to get you jacked off the boards if "the man" were so inclined....you may want to think about that...but you probably feel entitled to your little political rants
<< <i>And that's what the liberal education system is pouring into the head of our youth. My daughter changed her views after college. The problem is they are a captive audience and must listen to one side and not get the opposing view point. When we discuss things with her she argues, do you think the professor gets his points questioned or do they just sit and listen to the polished one sided rhetoric.
Raising minimum wage will cost jobs as it will raise costs for employers, that has to be made up somewhere and the most likely candidate is letting a few people go.
Open the borders so more can come in and take the jobs and the freebees and vote for more entitlements. Yeah, that's the ticket. >>
100% agree about all the above. The "tenured" professors who preach hate of hard work and push a want for entitlement. The raising minimum wage to stupid levels causing unemployment, etc (locally, Seattle is experiencing that starting right now.....liberals think all benefits are free and people that pour coffee and wrap mcmuffins should be paid like software engineers). And the part about more coming in to take jobs and freebies and entitlements.....I am for correct immigration. I am against getting things free when coming here illegally and having taxpayers foot the bill. People that came here illegally and want their relatives to be here because they are now "legal" should be footing all the bills. The illegals now get PAID college/education in some states....they have already gotten driver licenses, etc. Can't ask if they are illegal, etc etc etc. Where does all the funding come from? Why should a country's populace PAY for illegals (education/medical/etc)? Being humanitarian is one thing, but it has gone way too far.
THAT is one of the reasons for the low wages CRH is whining about......companies are already paying for a lot of taxes that go to pay for illegals....and some of these companies then turn around and hire the lower wage people like that and so people like CRH are just perpetuating their own life and whines by their decisions.
Their miserable, failed economic system collapsed 25 years ago. Most of us old timers recall it like it was yesterday, but it of course ended before CRH's life began.
Most of the non elite earned the same wages. Sort of like what the current administration is attempting with the ACA and $15 minimum wages. Add in the gun control and you can nearly visualize a large statue in Red Square.
With the exception of a handful of oligarchs, the population suffered enormously, waiting in long food lines to get a sack of flour and a couple of eggs. That is the end game of an economy that steals from those that are productive and gives to those that refuse to work.
I go to a conservative college well known for its conservative economics department. >>
Agree. That's why we need to raise the minimum wage to $50 per hour now to stimulate job growth.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I think minimum wage should be zero. I see people at McDonald's that would pay $20 per hour and I see others who I wouldn't pay even $1. Workers ate not forced to make $7.25, but companies are forced to pay it.
Raise the minimum wage for all of your lowest paid workers and some things happen.
The rest of your more experienced staff wants a bigger raise because they do better, more difficult and more sophisticated work that required years of training (and they account for more of the profits being generated by your company, which is WHY they are paid more in the first place).
So, who do you let dictate your wage structure at that point, genius?
Your balance sheet then goes to hell and you either cut staff or raise prices. Your competition doesn't raise prices and suddenly you don't have much business.
Then, you lay off staff, or close the doors. I love the ivy league mentality of people who never had responsibility for keeping people employed in real jobs.
We report, you decide.
2 + 2 = 4, still.
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one huge problem with raising the minimum wage is this:
Say, for example, your entry level workers earn minimum wage, let's call it $7/hr, people with one year experience earn $8, and with two years, $9, and with 3 years experience, $10.
Now they raise the minimum wage to $10. What do you pay the people with one, two, three years experience? Do they all make $10 now? (effectively eliminating the wage-benefit of experience for those workers? That hardly seems fair, will not be good for morale, will cause some to quit, or slack, or etc..).. or do you give everyone a $3 an hour raise? And maybe lay off enough workers so that your total paid salary remains close to the same?
China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals.
Thinking about it....it must all be a joke. It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon).
There will be computer touch screen ordering systems in fast food joints. And less chance of your order getting screwed up by someone who hates their low paying job
<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke. It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He's a liar period. He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage.
<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke. It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage. >>
Take it easy, Jack. We want to keep you around here for a while.
Conservative is relative to the person making the determination. If they charge tuition, that in the eyes of Coinrollhunter, may be enough to receive the conservative label.
<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke. It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage. >>
Take it easy, Jack. We want to keep you around here for a while.
Conservative is relative to the person making the determination. If they charge tuition, that in the eyes of Coinrollhunter, may be enough to receive the conservative label. >>
I pay my own tuition, thanks. Here was my tea party economics professor.
GMU is well known for its conservative economics department.
Obviously, he is either a crappy teacher or you're just plain brilliant to absorb the knowledge, pass the course, and then still be able to twist it into an ideological form to fit your world of obamanomics.
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Don't give up CRH. My first yob, Mickey D's $1.35 hr, $1.07 net. 55 hours per week when I was 15 1/2 yrs old AND everybody went to an unpaid crew meeting at 9am Saturday morning and when Ed Long reviewed everyone's time card if you punched in one minute late, you did TEN Marine claps in front of the crew. Twice and they fired you.
You got it easy lad. If you don't like eight bucks, move on.
<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly?
<< <i>Don't give up CRH. My first yob, Mickey D's $1.35 hr, $1.07 net. 55 hours per week when I was 15 1/2 yrs old AND everybody went to an unpaid crew meeting at 9am Saturday morning and when Ed Long reviewed everyone's time card if you punched in one minute late, you did TEN Marine claps in front of the crew. Twice and they fired you.
You got it easy lad. If you don't like eight bucks, move on. >>
<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly? >>
How did you make that conclusion from my post? Employees in China are treated like dirt, except those that are making fake US coins, they probably get a chunk of pork with their noodles.
China though is our competition for decent jobs. The US employer would rather move his facilities there, than deal with a number of choke hold regulations that make competitive manufacturing impossible in this nation.
<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly? >>
How did you make that conclusion from my post? Employees in China are treated like dirt, except those that are making fake US coins, they probably get a chunk of pork with their noodles.
China though is our competition for decent jobs. The US employer would rather move his facilities there, than deal with a number of choke hold regulations that make competitive manufacturing impossible in this nation. >>
I made no conclusion. I asked a question-I didn't make a statement.
<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable. >>
Class of '75 per chance?... >>
Rawteam, you too? WOW what a coinkydink. I figured you for an Arkansas community college circa 2005. Boy was I wrong. Mea culpa, mea culpa.
<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable. >>
Class of '75 per chance?... >>
Rawteam, you too? WOW what a coinkydink. I figured you for an Arkansas community college circa 2005. Boy was I wrong. Mea culpa, mea culpa. >>
>>>Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy when Democrats say we need to get out of wars. Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat. 47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament. Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board. Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market... >><<<
Typical Democratic blame shifting. Obama has more harm to this country than any of the 10 worst Presidents put together!
Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it?
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Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it? >>
Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it? >>
You are a creationist idiot. >>
My learned person, Creationism seems a thorn to you. I just finished an interesting book. you may have interest in it: Internal Factors in Evolution by Lancelot Law Whyte
Well entitlements are a big part of the debt. There are all kinds of “entitlements.” Social Security is one. Medicare is another, including Part B added by Bush to cover pharmaceuticals so that the elderly would not die because they cannot afford drugs. There are also some people in this country that believe that they are “entitled” to graze their cattle for free on public lands and thus enrich themselves at the expense of the nation. Others think that they are entitled to drill or mine on public lands and pay below market royalties (or none if they can get away with it). Others believe that they are entitled to join the military as a means of getting out of rural or urban blight and then use GI benefits to fund their education as a path to obtaining gainful employment—a good result but an entitlement nonetheless.
The biggest items and most difficult to contain among the entitlements are Social Security and Medicare. These costs will continue to grow as the population ages and life expectancy increases. When Social Security was introduced the life expectancy was around 67 years. So when people qualified to receive benefits at age 65 the “odds” were that they would only be receiving benefits for a few years. Today life expectancy is pushing past 80 meaning that people will be drawing benefits for many more years. Greater life expectancy also means that more people will outlive their retirement savings.
Want to cut Social Security and Medicare? Are you willing and able to support yourself, your parents and/or grandparents and pay for your and their medical care for decades? Single family homes, yours perhaps, could become family compounds in which two or three generations live. Like it used to be in the olden days. Hospitals could require proof of financial ability to pay before admitting people, including the elderly. Those who cannot show the necessary resources will just be allowed to die in the street. Or perhaps new laws can be enacted that prohibit doctors from treating and hospitals from admitting people older than a certain age.
Or workers could be required by their employers to contribute more to their own pension plans, except that workers tend to go on strike when that is proposed because after all who wants to fund their own retirement?
Or the government could raise taxes to pay for all of this. But we wouldn’t want to tax hedge fund managers since they would then have less money available to buy $100 million Picassos and to build multimillion dollar coin collections. And we wouldn’t want to tax the “job creators” even if they don’t really create any jobs, at least not in the U.S., since they pay for political campaigns. So we will just tax the other people like Joe the Plumber, even though (a) he is not really a plumber, (b) he doesn’t earn enough money to be worth taxing, and (c) the increased tax burden will leave him with even less ability to save for his own retirement
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It's Fox "News" so it must be true...
Republicans are stonewalling any and all attempts at progress in this country.
<< <i>I don't admire Ben Carson because he is a creationist. I refuse to admire creationists.
A world class neurosurgeon's religious views keep him from accepting scientific evidence >>
Last post to this youth: Grow up and soon!
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
That's what u get for being an evolutionist...
Raising minimum wage will cost jobs as it will raise costs for employers, that has to be made up somewhere and the most likely candidate is letting a few people go.
Open the borders so more can come in and take the jobs and the freebees and vote for more entitlements. Yeah, that's the ticket.
<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
So BFD. I earned $2.00 an hour while going to college. Translates to your $8.00 now.
After college, earned $200 a week or $5 an hour the first six months and $600 a week 2 years later. Started my own business at 25, started my own business. It was 1982 in Detroit and the economy sucked. Didn't wait for permission from Washington DC, just did it.
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<< <i>When the other party makes sure you only get 7.25 an hour
So fu..ing work harder and smarter. So much whining. >>
I do, but thanks to republicans, I still get paid poorly. If it were up to democrats, I would be getting paid better. Plain and simple. >>
What ever happened to, "if it was up to myself I would be getting paid better?". E >>
It isn't up to me-it is up to the owner/management of the restaurant. >>
It is not up to the restaurant owner to pay you more, it is up to you to earn more. Someday you'll understand.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>I am a senior in college. I am on track to graduate in December 2014 with a bachelors degree in health administration. I have worked at my job for over a year-and still no raise-8 dollars an hour. >>
The above, AND your other posts, tell an awful lot....
You are "one of those".....living at home, getting a degree in a very low paying field (for the majority) that isn't well respected nor on the higher pay list.
You feel entitled. You want, for free or minimum effort, what others have. Whether it has been handed to them (inherited) or they have worked hard for it. You see yourself as better than most.
You play at being an academic. You think you know economics and job markets better...and why things happen the way they do. You are an armchair politician.
You mom/parents probably worked hard but didn't make much (that's the case with mine, so it isn't a slam....it's an observation) and you feel you are better than that. A college degree...which you may be the first in your immediate family to receive....makes you so much better than others.
Well, here's MY little personal story and why I agree with everyone else who is telling you that it is up TO YOU, not any boss/manager/owner to better YOURSELF....
I was an academic back in high school. I had offers/scholarships to HUNDREDS of colleges. We also had NO money. I graduated with barely $100 and my parents couldn't help. I turned it all down, because there are more expenses than just tuition and room&board (travel back and forth, laundry, extra food, gas for a car (if you have one), car payments (mine was a paid off $600 car that was quite dinged up but was safe and driveable), insurance, etc).
So, I joined the army, with a bonus for my speciality, so I could send some money back to help my parents AND pay my own way.
I had a chance, while I was in, and was accepted to West Point. I ended up, after 6mo of going that direction, turning it down so I could get out after 4 years active, since I had done some soul searching and knew I didn't want to be career military (GREAT opportunity that I turned down, but it was my choice at the time).
I got out and applied for, and was accepted, to a local state college. I WORKED 3-4 JOBS (administrative, restaurant, etc) at the time I was taking a FULL load (15-19 credits per quarter including day AND night school...and working FT in the summer) while living away from home. I didn't whine. I even ended up with college loans. I didn't whine. They were my choice and my responsibility. Others partied and their parents paid the bills PLUS. That's life.
I was IN and OUT of college in 4 years with a business degree (and, if my college would have recognized it, 3 specialties within). I had the focus to graduate after 2.75 years, but not the credits. I had to take extras because of the university rules. I played by the rules and still graduated with a good GPA and all the while working and self-supporting.
When I got out, there were no entry level business jobs that made sense for me (I didn't like accounting and that's what was available at the time and in the vast location areas here and where I looked). I still didn't whine. I ended up with a retail job. I did 1 year there and realized I was good but didn't like it.
I kept trying to better myself and learn. I was told about another job that was happening....computer support over the phone. I interviewed and was hired, on the spot, as a LEAD. Salaried. I did that for a year and was pulled to another company, as a contracted tester. I went through 6 interviews and didn't know it all, but I had the aptitude and the attitude, they said, and they hired me. I did 18 months of that. I turned down FT spots as they offered "just under $30k/yr" back then when I was making 50%+ more because of my overtime.
After that, I was told about a spot through contacts I had made and went FT. I am NOWHERE near as wealthy as many there. Nor elsewhere. Not even in my neighborhood nor my son's network of friend's parents.
But, I don't whine about it. I work like I want. I try to learn more and better myself.
I LOOK FOR THE RIGHT TYPE OF WORK...and don't go for the lowpaying jobs (ahem.....health administration).
So, go cry a river as some of us have had it worse/harder than you AND survived because we worked hard at it and tried to better ourselves.
So, you know what, stop whining about what you THINK you deserve...because you DON'T! Work for things. Stop looking for the handouts. Stop making excuses.
STOP TRYING TO THINK YOU ARE BETTER AND SMARTER than everyone else (you aren't......and, I don't think that of me as many on these boards are nicer/smarter/wealthier than I am...and I know that and accept it).
BTW....CRH......your political postings are enough to get you jacked off the boards if "the man" were so inclined....you may want to think about that...but you probably feel entitled to your little political rants
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<< <i>And that's what the liberal education system is pouring into the head of our youth. My daughter changed her views after college. The problem is they are a captive audience and must listen to one side and not get the opposing view point. When we discuss things with her she argues, do you think the professor gets his points questioned or do they just sit and listen to the polished one sided rhetoric.
Raising minimum wage will cost jobs as it will raise costs for employers, that has to be made up somewhere and the most likely candidate is letting a few people go.
Open the borders so more can come in and take the jobs and the freebees and vote for more entitlements. Yeah, that's the ticket. >>
100% agree about all the above.
The "tenured" professors who preach hate of hard work and push a want for entitlement.
The raising minimum wage to stupid levels causing unemployment, etc (locally, Seattle is experiencing that starting right now.....liberals think all benefits are free and people that pour coffee and wrap mcmuffins should be paid like software engineers).
And the part about more coming in to take jobs and freebies and entitlements.....I am for correct immigration. I am against getting things free when coming here illegally and having taxpayers foot the bill. People that came here illegally and want their relatives to be here because they are now "legal" should be footing all the bills. The illegals now get PAID college/education in some states....they have already gotten driver licenses, etc. Can't ask if they are illegal, etc etc etc. Where does all the funding come from? Why should a country's populace PAY for illegals (education/medical/etc)? Being humanitarian is one thing, but it has gone way too far.
THAT is one of the reasons for the low wages CRH is whining about......companies are already paying for a lot of taxes that go to pay for illegals....and some of these companies then turn around and hire the lower wage people like that and so people like CRH are just perpetuating their own life and whines by their decisions.
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-Ronald Reagan
I go to a conservative college well known for its conservative economics department.
Their miserable, failed economic system collapsed 25 years ago. Most of us old timers recall it like it was yesterday, but it of course ended before CRH's life began.
Most of the non elite earned the same wages. Sort of like what the current administration is attempting with the ACA and $15 minimum wages. Add in the gun control and you can nearly visualize a large statue in Red Square.
With the exception of a handful of oligarchs, the population suffered enormously, waiting in long food lines to get a sack of flour and a couple of eggs. That is the end game of an economy that steals from those that are productive and gives to those that refuse to work.
<< <i>Raising the minimum wage will not cost jobs: Minimum wage raisers had more job growth-from cnbc
I go to a conservative college well known for its conservative economics department. >>
Agree. That's why we need to raise the minimum wage to $50 per hour now to stimulate job growth.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
The rest of your more experienced staff wants a bigger raise because they do better, more difficult and more sophisticated work that required years of training (and they account for more of the profits being generated by your company, which is WHY they are paid more in the first place).
So, who do you let dictate your wage structure at that point, genius?
Your balance sheet then goes to hell and you either cut staff or raise prices. Your competition doesn't raise prices and suddenly you don't have much business.
Then, you lay off staff, or close the doors. I love the ivy league mentality of people who never had responsibility for keeping people employed in real jobs.
We report, you decide.
2 + 2 = 4, still.
I knew it would happen.
Say, for example, your entry level workers earn minimum wage, let's call it $7/hr, people with one year experience earn $8, and with two years, $9, and with 3 years experience, $10.
Now they raise the minimum wage to $10. What do you pay the people with one, two, three years experience? Do they all make $10 now? (effectively eliminating the wage-benefit of experience for those workers? That hardly seems fair, will not be good for morale, will cause some to quit, or slack, or etc..).. or do you give everyone a $3 an hour raise? And maybe lay off enough workers so that your total paid salary remains close to the same?
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals.
It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon).
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<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke.
It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He's a liar period. He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage.
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<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke.
It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage. >>
Take it easy, Jack. We want to keep you around here for a while.
Conservative is relative to the person making the determination. If they charge tuition, that in the eyes of Coinrollhunter, may be enough to receive the conservative label.
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<< <i>Thinking about it....it must all be a joke.
It's really hard to believe anyone could be that ignorant...and still claim to be college educated (getting a degree soon). >>
He does NOT attend a conservative college and learn that garbage. >>
Take it easy, Jack. We want to keep you around here for a while.
Conservative is relative to the person making the determination. If they charge tuition, that in the eyes of Coinrollhunter, may be enough to receive the conservative label. >>
I pay my own tuition, thanks. Here was my tea party economics professor.
GMU is well known for its conservative economics department.
GMU is well known for its conservative economics department.
Obviously, he is either a crappy teacher or you're just plain brilliant to absorb the knowledge, pass the course, and then still be able to twist it into an ideological form to fit your world of obamanomics.
I knew it would happen.
My first yob, Mickey D's $1.35 hr, $1.07 net. 55 hours per week when I was 15 1/2 yrs old AND everybody went to an unpaid crew meeting at 9am Saturday morning and when Ed Long reviewed everyone's time card if you punched in one minute late, you did TEN Marine claps in front of the crew. Twice and they fired you.
You got it easy lad. If you don't like eight bucks, move on.
<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly?
<< <i>Don't give up CRH.
My first yob, Mickey D's $1.35 hr, $1.07 net. 55 hours per week when I was 15 1/2 yrs old AND everybody went to an unpaid crew meeting at 9am Saturday morning and when Ed Long reviewed everyone's time card if you punched in one minute late, you did TEN Marine claps in front of the crew. Twice and they fired you.
You got it easy lad. If you don't like eight bucks, move on. >>
No, I don't have it easy. Don't tell me I do.
Well, everything is relative, isn't it.
I'd wager quite a bit that you have it better than the majority of humans.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
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<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly? >>
How did you make that conclusion from my post? Employees in China are treated like dirt, except those that are making fake US coins, they probably get a chunk of pork with their noodles.
China though is our competition for decent jobs. The US employer would rather move his facilities there, than deal with a number of choke hold regulations that make competitive manufacturing impossible in this nation.
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<< <i>China has no problems with minimum wage.....or restrictions on air pollution....or mandatory family leave.
They are happy to take the decent manufacturing jobs that America once enjoyed.
Tough to run a restaurant out of China for American consumers though. Carry out would be a long boat ride, and you would be hungry again in an hour.
Fact is though, restaurants are an unneeded luxury. Customers pay $20 for $5 worth of food. All good in a decent economy, I enjoy dining out myself once in a while, but force the price up and many people will opt to prepare more of their own meals. >>
Wow...do you think workers in China are treated fairly? >>
How did you make that conclusion from my post? Employees in China are treated like dirt, except those that are making fake US coins, they probably get a chunk of pork with their noodles.
China though is our competition for decent jobs. The US employer would rather move his facilities there, than deal with a number of choke hold regulations that make competitive manufacturing impossible in this nation. >>
I made no conclusion. I asked a question-I didn't make a statement.
Now you've crossed the line
It's spelled Berkeley.
Class of '75 sir.
Regards, c.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable.
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<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable. >>
Class of '75 per chance?...
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable. >>
Class of '75 per chance?... >>
Rawteam, you too? WOW what a coinkydink. I figured you for an Arkansas community college circa 2005. Boy was I wrong. Mea culpa, mea culpa.
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<< <i>I once collected a check from a female student at Berkeley. Part of the name to which the check was to be written was "Motors". She spelled it Moters. >>
Remarkable. >>
Class of '75 per chance?... >>
Rawteam, you too? WOW what a coinkydink. I figured you for an Arkansas community college circa 2005. Boy was I wrong. Mea culpa, mea culpa. >>
heck no, but u still off, lol...
You join a rather large yet select group with whom I have had discourse where the last word directed at me was
...."off".
Typical Democratic blame shifting. Obama has more harm to this country than any of the 10 worst Presidents put together!
Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it?
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Okay, I'll play.
Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it? >>
You are a creationist idiot.
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<< <i>Okay, I'll play.
Military spending. Republicans putting wars on credit cards and criticizing democrats for being weak on foreign policy.
Obama's been in office long enough to double the debt, and his mismanagement of foreign policy has destabilized just about the entire world.
when Democrats say we need to get out of wars
LBJ got us into a protracted and expensive war; Nixon pulled us out of it. For the record, LBJ was a democrat; Nixon was a republican.
Bush got us into Iraq, Obama got us into Afghanistan. For the record, Bush is a republican; Obama is a democrat.
Refusing revenue from the business that is religion is another problem. Taxes on profitable churches would go a long way toward paying for our defense spending that Republicans shove down the taxpayer's throat.
Unbelievable amount of ignorance packed into one single statement. The business that is government bureaucracy is THE problem. Your animosity toward Christianity has been duly noted.
47% of people cannot take responsibility. If they just paid taxes on the 7.25 per hour they made, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Then perhaps they should better themselves with an education and work their way into a job that pays better, in return for becoming a professional who does take some responsibility and shows some gratitude for a good opportunity instead of undermining the system every chance they get.
Republicans are stopping people from making more money by making sure the minimum wage doesn't increase across the board.
What hypocrisy. In one breath you say that people can't take responsibility. In the next breath you try to shift blame on someone else because the job you have isn't worth more than $7.25/hr. The job isn't worth more than it's worth. It has nothing to do with anything else. Blame the fine folks who passed all the regulatory legislation that drives good jobs away, if you really have to blame someone.
Just get a gun and post pictures of your gun/ammo on this site
I don't like you well enough to pics of my guns for you. Sorry.
and tell everybody that the rapture is coming...
Everybody, the rapture is coming. There, happy now?
buy more gold...you will lose money on it...but at least it will still be worth 70% of what you paid for it in a couple years. Better than investing in the stock market
That's odd. My net worth seems to have grown rather nicely over the years. Strange, isn't it? >>
You are a creationist idiot. >>
My learned person, Creationism seems a thorn to you.
I just finished an interesting book. you may have interest in it:
Internal Factors in Evolution by Lancelot Law Whyte
May you enjoy it as I did.
The biggest items and most difficult to contain among the entitlements are Social Security and Medicare. These costs will continue to grow as the population ages and life expectancy increases. When Social Security was introduced the life expectancy was around 67 years. So when people qualified to receive benefits at age 65 the “odds” were that they would only be receiving benefits for a few years. Today life expectancy is pushing past 80 meaning that people will be drawing benefits for many more years. Greater life expectancy also means that more people will outlive their retirement savings.
Want to cut Social Security and Medicare? Are you willing and able to support yourself, your parents and/or grandparents and pay for your and their medical care for decades? Single family homes, yours perhaps, could become family compounds in which two or three generations live. Like it used to be in the olden days. Hospitals could require proof of financial ability to pay before admitting people, including the elderly. Those who cannot show the necessary resources will just be allowed to die in the street. Or perhaps new laws can be enacted that prohibit doctors from treating and hospitals from admitting people older than a certain age.
Or workers could be required by their employers to contribute more to their own pension plans, except that workers tend to go on strike when that is proposed because after all who wants to fund their own retirement?
Or the government could raise taxes to pay for all of this. But we wouldn’t want to tax hedge fund managers since they would then have less money available to buy $100 million Picassos and to build multimillion dollar coin collections. And we wouldn’t want to tax the “job creators” even if they don’t really create any jobs, at least not in the U.S., since they pay for political campaigns. So we will just tax the other people like Joe the Plumber, even though (a) he is not really a plumber, (b) he doesn’t earn enough money to be worth taxing, and (c) the increased tax burden will leave him with even less ability to save for his own retirement
CG