California Chrome......Yea or Neigh?
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True champ or soon to be forgotten nag?
I am rooting for him as his second trainer is Alan Sherman!
Don't think though that Secretariat needed a nasal strip to win the Belmont.
I am rooting for him as his second trainer is Alan Sherman!
Don't think though that Secretariat needed a nasal strip to win the Belmont.
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<< <i>"Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out."
but, but..He's trying to hit 10k posts by his 1st Anniv.
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<< <i>"Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out."
but, but..He's trying to hit 10k posts by his 1st Anniv.
....but wait till you see the giveaway coin!
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<< <i>"Good idea folks.....one week without a new thread. let's see how it works out."
but, but..He's trying to hit 10k posts by his 1st Anniv.
Posts or new threads started? I would think he is gobbling bandwidth at blinding speed
CC looked spent at end of Preakness. I play on Nick Zito at Belmont any time he has horses there
Might just be another really good horse movie in the works!
<< <i>*California >>
Maybe California Chromium would have been a better name.
Holy crap, I just realized MG has not even been here a year, and all those posts? LOL
<< <i>Kalifornia these days.
Holy crap, I just realized MG has not even been here a year, and all those posts? LOL
Trying to get in to Guinness Book of world Stouts!
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<< <i>*California >>
Maybe California Chromium would have been a better name. >>
California Chronic ...
I owned this horse). One is that it is a LONG race. Second is that it is earlier in the day. I know
that my horses liked routines and hated to be exercised at a different time of day. Like people,
they like ruts too!
Of course I'd like to see CC win (pun intended).
bob
I say "yes"… But I won't bet with my heart or any of my "C C" coins. .
I see a fade though in the long Belmont stretch.
<< <i>Seattle Slew (SS) is the first & last horse with repeating initials to 3-peat. in Seventy-Seven. '77
I say "yes"… But I won't bet with my heart or any of my "C C" coins. . >>
Seattle Slew is one of the great-great grandfathers of California Chrome. Of course I'm rooting for him, have watched Jockey Victor Espinoza ride many a time at Del Mar.
Wicked Strong ridden by Maragh was at 6-1 last I looked and could be a strong contender at this distance race. His muther was a mudder.
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<< <i>Seattle Slew (SS) is the first & last horse with repeating initials to 3-peat. in Seventy-Seven. '77
I say "yes"… But I won't bet with my heart or any of my "C C" coins. . >>
Seattle Slew is one of the great-great grandfathers of California Chrome. Of course I'm rooting for him, have watched Jockey Victor Espinoza ride many a time at Del Mar.
Wicked Strong ridden by Maragh was at 6-1 last I looked and could be a strong contender at this distance race. His muther was a mudder.
I go to Del mar once a year, great venue, expensive drinks... I actually go surfing there.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for.
<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
Yeah, but was there smoe truth there?
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
Yeah, but was there smoe truth there? >>
We can always make it easier to crown champions. Maybe make it the Double Crown!
My second home was the racetrack in the 1970's. The Standardbreds raced at the highest level every 7 days. The Grand Circuit came through town twice a year. These were the best trotters and pacers in the nation and they raced the mile each week. Not every two weeks or 3 weeks or 5 weeks at the thoroughbreds do. Never a complaint about race frequency from the owners, trainers or drivers.
Art Sherman had 21 days to prepare this horse for 150 seconds of racing. He also received special permission for the horse to use a breathing strip.
Nice horse but not the best today, at least over the mile and a half distance.
No excuse.
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
Yeah, but was there smoe truth there? >>
We can always make it easier to crown champions. Maybe make it the Double Crown!
My second home was the racetrack in the 1970's. The Standardbreds raced at the highest level every 7 days. The Grand Circuit came through town twice a year. These were the best trotters and pacers in the nation and they raced the mile each week. Not every two weeks or 3 weeks or 5 weeks at the thoroughbreds do. Never a complaint about race frequency from the owners, trainers or drivers.
Art Sherman had 21 days to prepare this horse for 150 seconds of racing. He also received special permission for the horse to use a breathing strip.
Nice horse but not the best today, at least over the mile and a half distance.
No excuse. >>
Okay, got it.
But he said every Triple Crown hopefully has been targeted in the last 20(?) years. Was there a rule change? Or just our grapes?
<< <i>But he said every Triple Crown hopefully has been targeted in the last 20(?) years. Was there a rule change? Or just our grapes? >>
Do not know if there has been a rule change. The Preakness and Belmont have always been pretty wide open races.
The owner was just frustrated I suppose. We have all been there. Fortunately we don't have an audience of a billion pair of eyes!
<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
But it was the truth.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
But it was the truth. >>
That the winner of the race performed in a cowardly manner? How so?
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<< <i>But he said every Triple Crown hopefully has been targeted in the last 20(?) years. Was there a rule change? Or just our grapes? >>
Do not know if there has been a rule change. The Preakness and Belmont have always been pretty wide open races.
The owner was just frustrated I suppose. We have all been there. Fortunately we don't have an audience of a billion pair of eyes! >>
That's why we have alts and don't use our real name...er...nevermind.
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
But it was the truth. >>
That the winner of the race performed in a cowardly manner? How so? >>
"Cowardly" was an unfortunate use. Maybe he should be forced to sell his horse? Seems to be all the rage for rants.
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Medal Count and Wicked Strong were both in the Kentucky Derby. The first beat CC in the Belmont and the second tied him.
Even with the "cowardly" winner out of the race, CC is tied for second.
...oh yes, the race would have been different, but I doubt that the results would have been.
So what's the grift here?
You have to qualify for the Derby but not the other two races? If thats true then the owner is right I think.
There is a lot of money bet on a triple crown hopeful just because of that possibility , money that may not have been bet on california chrome without that narrative . It seems like it could be lucrative to torpedo the whole thing with a horse that has no way to win that.
where does horse racing fall on the spectrum of legitimacy? 100% above board, about even with wrestlemania , or somewhere in the middle?
<< <i>where does horse racing fall on the spectrum of legitimacy? 100% above board, about even with wrestlemania , or somewhere in the middle? >>
In my experience, fairly legit at the stakes racing level.
Lower levels it is as straight as Don Kings hair.
Belmont.
Chrome's time would not have won any Belmont in the last 50 years.
<< <i>Chrome was not a fast horse. The competition was weak in the Derby and Preakness, but came out for the
Belmont.
Chrome's time would not have won any Belmont in the last 50 years. >>
Great point. A full five seconds behind the Belmont record.
This horse is more Mr. Ed, than Secretariat.
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
But it was the truth. >>
He also knew the field going into the race, so if he felt the deck was being stacked against him, he could have pulled his horse or betched about it then.
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<< <i>Sorry to see CC get beat.
The owner's rant though was uncalled for. >>
But it was the truth. >>
He also knew the field going into the race, so if he felt the deck was being stacked against him,he could have pulled his horse or betched about it then. >>
People should just forget about the whole thing , its just a way to pry money out of bettors hands. Triple crown fairy tale part 27. These triple crown hopefuls are about as interesting as the downhill skier that comes in 15th after we sit through an hour long tearjerker about how motivated he is by his mom's cancer.
I tried to watch this race yesterday but the lead up was too ridiculous. 2 hours and 50 minutes of dreck for a 1 minute race followed by a 1 minute rant
Learned long ago to stay off the channel until ten minutes before post time.
Lock up raw is your friend.