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An Engelhard bar that I've never seen before

JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
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12 oz poured bar. Just arrived today. Goal, is to someday sell it for more then I paid for it image

MJ

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  • JulioJulio Posts: 2,501 ✭
    That's a sweet bar. Take care. jws
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  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭
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    Very nice!!!
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  • BlackBeardBlackBeard Posts: 1,064 ✭
    That's my kinda bar right there. Awesome. image
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  • SilverBaronSilverBaron Posts: 767 ✭
    Cute ....... 1 Troy Lb.

    Just let me know ......... image



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  • SilveraholicSilveraholic Posts: 197 ✭
    image Haven't seen that before. Thanks for sharing.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,824 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's goes Friday porn.

    Very nice bar. image

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  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭
    Fake...









    image Great piece of metal! image
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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Big score MJ!
    Its a beauty.
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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭
    Wowowowowow!!
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  • CCC2010CCC2010 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    VERY image Its a good thing you bought it first before China can add it to their vault. image
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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,132 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now thats stackin'. I like it!!image
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  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Trade ya a dozen 1 oz Buffalo rounds ;-)

    That bar is SAWEEEEEEET
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could you please do a closeup of that weird serial number?
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  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭
    Does it carry a significant premium or, due to the big size, the premium is kept low to facilitate the sale?
    Just curious, no need to disclose the premium, obviously.
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  • TIPPAHNUMTIPPAHNUM Posts: 79 ✭✭✭
    Extraordinarily Cool bar ! I Like!
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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Super cool. Could be a one of a kind bar being that allengelhard.com doesn't even have that size (oz's) available in their search. What have you done to ensure it's genuine, if anything.
    This is an example where I would send it in for certification if a TPG offered such services.
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Did you buy this bar from APMEX? They are currently out of stock for that particular bar. Apparently it was made during the 1960's per their description.

    APMEX link
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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,379 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hope you're going to slap that thing on a big rope chain and Mr T it around.
  • rawteam1rawteam1 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭
    Ahhhhh, thanks OPA, I couldn't remember where I saw that bar, it's sweet...
    POM, lol, when u hold a big bar of gold in your hands you know it's gold, u got everythingsfakeitis...lol
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  • NVUNVU Posts: 284 ✭✭✭
    I remember saw that bar on Apmex as well. Pretty healthy premium for such a large bar.

    A very cool bar indeed, it's the first I've seen in that denomination. Congrats!
  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    POM, lol, when u hold a big bar of gold in your hands you know it's gold, u got everythingsfakeitis...lol

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hi Captain. Here is your close up.

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    Nibanny & OPA

    There was significant premium. OPA is correct and this bar came from Apmex.

    FYI- Ampex worked with me on the price since the item literally has no history.

    They had never seen this type of bar before not did anyone else I asked.

    MJ

    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tank you for the closeup. I have no question that it is real, but I have never seen a serial number like that. Amazing.
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  • nibannynibanny Posts: 2,761 ✭


    << <i>I have no question that it is real >>



    Capt, how can you be sure? Not presuming anything, just curious to know how an unique item can be identified as original/genuine. Thanks!
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  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two points:

    1. I'm satisfied it is real and Engelhard. If I had the extra cash I would have purchased it.

    2. It is awesome.

    Nicely done MJ. image
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have no question that it is real >>



    Capt, how can you be sure? Not presuming anything, just curious to know how an unique item can be identified as original/genuine. Thanks! >>



    My statement is literally true and accurate: I have no question that it is real.
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  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Well that one super cool chunk Auimage

    Happy to see she ain't got all the $$ yet




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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well that one super cool chunk Auimage

    Happy to see she ain't got all the $$ yet >>



    The operative word is "yet"

    MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • gsa1fangsa1fan Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Still a rock'in Au pieceimage
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hi Captain. Here is your close up.

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    Nibanny & OPA

    There was significant premium. OPA is correct and this bar came from Apmex.

    FYI- Ampex worked with me on the price since the item literally has no history.

    They had never seen this type of bar before not did anyone else I asked.

    MJ >>



    A real "49'er!"
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  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭✭
    "I don't always buy gold, but when I do, it's doce onzas."

    Apologies to the Dos Equis people.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>12 oz poured bar. Just arrived today. Goal, is to someday sell it for more then I paid for it image

    MJ

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    Are the "5" of ".9995" and the "12" of "12 TR OZ." hand stamped as well as the "-49"?

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  • NicNic Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet! Don't go sailing with it! image

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ttt

    Doesn't the apparent addition of serial numbers by hand interest anybody? My guess is that this bar was part of a special run and that this bar is number 49 of that batch. Any other ideas?
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The gentleman that runs the Engelhard collector site says he has never seen another one of these.

    That collector I had in Chicago who had over 3,800 ounces, all different, in his gold collection did not have one. I still have his two poured 10 ozers, so I know he would have bought a 12 had he ever seen one.

    I strongly suspect that this is the sole survivor of a single production run.

    TD
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  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,365 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The gentleman that runs the Engelhard collector site says he has never seen another one of these.

    That collector I had in Chicago who had over 3,800 ounces, all different, in his gold collection did not have one. I still have his two poured 10 ozers, so I know he would have bought a 12 had he ever seen one.

    I strongly suspect that this is the sole survivor of a single production run.

    TD >>




    If the collector with 3,800 ounces did not have a 12 oz gold piece it is indeed rare.

    I have a handful of silver items where only one example is known but the 12 oz gold piece is in a class by itself.
    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
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  • FullCameoFullCameo Posts: 492
    Perhaps it's really a 1.2 oz bar with some filler.
























    Kidding! image
    Cool bar!
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