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1934-S Peace Dollar bought for $58 cleaned with potato- Final update
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I bought this coin on Ebay. I have a circulated Peace Dansco album I'm sort of trying to complete, so I bought it for $58. It said "Corrosion- AU details" in the description. I didn't see any corrosion, so I took a chance on it. To see the "Before" picture...... IN ONE OF THE POSTS ON 3rd PAGE SOMEONE PLACED A LINK.....
I posted it a few weeks back and asked for opinions, about half of which were "It won't grade" and half were "It'll grade between 50 and 55", so I sent it in to our hosts. Just got the slab:
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I posted it a few weeks back and asked for opinions, about half of which were "It won't grade" and half were "It'll grade between 50 and 55", so I sent it in to our hosts. Just got the slab:
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Cashback from Mr. Rebates
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
Has worked very well on Buffalo nickels and silver. Has not been good on copper.
I've also tried WD-40 and acetone as advised on here, but the best and easiest I've found is the potato.
<< <i> I'd soak it in acetone over night to get the starch & other gunk off. >>
That's a nice score!
And yes, all I did to it was put in a raw potato overnight and then wash it off, so that's what took off the green stuff (PVC?).
Looking more carefully, I do see luster in the fields.
Hard to tell from the photos, but look to be a n AU. The rim nicks are a concern...
Worth a shot at getting slabbed perhaps..
Certainly a solid filler for the Dansco hole at worst! I think you did very well for the price!
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I personally think it will grade AU53, it's a very nice coin in hand, the front looks better than the picture shows.
BUT, not if the rim dent sinks the ship!
ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OUT!
I'll re-post in month or so when the grades come back, in case anyone is interested.
Thanks to all who shared opinions!
My education continues- I've submitted about 200 coins to PCGS so far (most I re-sell, several I keep), but I am far from an expert.
Lance.
<< <i>looks like a gradable AU55 to me. I don't think the rim ding is bad enough to keep it from a straight grade---the rim thing is probably hardly noticeable in hand.
That's a nice score! >>
<< <i>It looks like a perfectly fine AU55 given how much luster it has. The rim bump is not even close to being large enough to worry about.
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+1 and +1
and i'll add.
sending it in depends on what you paid.
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Oh, and probably 50 cents for the potato!
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>Since I'm in it for $58 total ($55 plus shipping), I think a grading fee is a good gamble.
Oh, and probably 50 cents for the potato! >>
You overpaid for the potato.
Lance.
<< <i>You overpaid for the potato.
Lance. >>
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Of course PCGS might have made the wrong call and a safe bath in acetone might work wonders. It's worth the try. I wouldn't hesitate to crack a run of the mill Morgan in a genuine holder and try it.
I don't think many of us turn to potatoes as the preferred treatment. Acetone is much safer and won't harm the obverse. Sometimes a gentle prod at the softened gunk with a rose thorn or something similar can help. Be very careful, though.
Maybe show us pictures?
Lance.
Anyway, I appreciate all the feedback.
When I get it back I will post the grade.
<< <i>It will not grade due to the rim dent. >>
I disagree. The coin may be netted down a point or two, but it should still straight grade.
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And I soaked it in acetone overnight, rinsed in warm water.
<< <i>It will not grade due to the rim dent. >>
As you said, you were afraid of the rim dent as well.
If you're doing an album, why would you want it certified,
maybe looking for a genuine, non holder, designation ?
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a little busier that the original pictures showed. i'd for sure submit it with a few other coins if possible to bring the C.P.C.A. down.
although enjoying it in an album for now isn't a bad idea either.
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I'm in my 50's, collected as a kid/teen, then didn't do much until 2011 when the 25th anniversary silver eagle set came out, re-kindled the interest. And my four kids are now down to one at home, have more time (my 15 year old daughter can get her fill of me pretty quick). So I joined PCGS in 2011, started playing with coins again, had a lot to learn, still do. I'm about half moderns, half classics. My only "collections" of classics are a sort of PCGS Type Set, and a PCGS Franklin Set. My Peace dollar in my type set is a 1921 MS64 that I think is beautiful, bought from Heritage a couple of years ago.
I had an EBAY deal go bad, and the seller ended up giving me a Dansco album with four Peace dollars in it. So over the last year I've dabbled at completing it, with coins I think look good, try not to pay over $30 or so for any of them. No slabs, just Ebay pick-ups. So I'm down to the 1921, 28 and 34-S. Sunday I bought a PCGS genuine 1921 AU cleaned on Great Collections for $75, it will fill that slot nicely.
But looking at prices on 1934-S, I saw they jumped quick once you got to XF, and I saw this one last week on EBAY that looked AU details but said corrosion, but I saw no corrosion, so I bought it for $58 and put in an a potato overnight, and was floored by how well it cleaned up, the reverse looks super, I think it is truly an AU, but I thought I would get expert opinions on it before sending it in.
So far I'm about half "it won't grade" and about half "it'll grade at 50-55", so the next time I send in some coins to grade I'm going to see if it will grade, and if it grades at AU50 or better I'll probably sell it. If it doesn't grade I may sell it anyway, or put it in the hole in the Dansco and have my own story to tell when I show it to someone.
So I appreciate all the input. My only goal with this coin is to have fun, and I'm having fun whether it grades or not. A few of my coins have stories behind them, this will be one of those.
I think it will be genuine. Still a nice coin for the price you paid.
<< <i>I think it will be genuine. Still a nice coin for the price you paid. >>
either the rim nick or that black spot (looks like carbon spot to me). But worth ride along cost if you have others to go.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
Anyone else want to guess the grade?
I think it will grade AU50.
OINK
If not for a few noticable dings most on the obverse, would be AU53ish,maybe higher, but there they are, with one right at the date the most painful but they all detract, they could be bag marks from other coins but then there's that patch of little marks at about k4, I do not think PCGS will grade it but give it AU details 98
Net XF45 from the pics, would make a nice album coin in a raw AU/MS peace dollar set
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Potato = Doctoring
Acetone = Doctoring
You have been rewarded for your efforts.
That's fortunate for you but unfortunate for the hobby.
Awesome! I thought it would genuine and am glad I was wrong! Potato's you say.................Hmmmm!
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<< <i>I posted it a few weeks back and asked for opinions, about half of which were "It won't grade" and half were "It'll grade between 50 and 55", so I sent it in to our hosts.
Grade came in yesterday, it was 29652342 7377 1934-S $1 USA AU55! Thanks to all for their input. >>
amazing this is how it started out!
it would be nice if we had those intermediate shots so i could post all 6 images to show a progression.
gratz to the submitter.
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