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If you had a coin or coins in the old ANACS small holders??

and they are properly graded would you just leave them alone?? I would rather have them in the new PCGS holders but don't know if the expense would be worth it. What are your thoughts?

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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,515 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If you are not looking to sell them right now, I would leave them as they are. If you are going to sell 20 years from now, there may be something bigger and better down the road, so why spend the money now when you may have to spend additional later.

    If you are looking to sell now, then I would do research in auction archives and see if the particular coin brings more money in a different holder or not. I would also look to see if the coin is a potential upgrade. If the cost between one slab versus another is only a few tens of dollars, I would leave it as is. If the coin is a potential upgrade, then I would look to see if the coin has a huge price increase between grades. Again, if only a few tens of dollars, I would leave it alone. If it is a few hundred dollars, then sure I might give it a go.

    But, as first stated, if you are not looking to sell now, then leave it alone.

  • I am not looking to sell now or in the near future. I think the advice you give is in line with what I was thinking. Maybe wait until a little later, something always new on the horizon in grading and if I have them graded now by the time I sell it may be obsolete.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would keep them just as they are...... Cheers, RickO
  • TONEDDOLLARSTONEDDOLLARS Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭✭
    I have a nice 84-cc in an old anacs holder, and I'm fine with it to stay there.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd crack the coins out and put them in albums and flips

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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    Is a person going to sell soon? Do they want them for registry? What is the numismatic and grade value? Is the next grade lower a lot less money? Next grade higher a lot more money? For coins under $300 in value, the differences between companies aren't as big a deal and the expenses may be greater than that difference.

    For coins over $1000 in numismatic/grade value, crossing them may maximize resale value. Of course crossing is a crap shoot. Only about 40% actually cross. If you surveyed owners at submission, they probably think 80% will cross. Ownership adds a point.

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm fond of the lil old white chase holders and keep the coins as it...

    Now the newer blue and yellow label I'd have no issue crossing.

    BTW what does the latest ANACS holder even look like as I can't keep up with all their holder changes?
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd crack the coins out and put them in albums and flips

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    This is certainly not financially sound advise if you are going to ever sell them. I bought a few coins from an eBay seller who cracked them out of PCGS for his album. He listed the label with the coins and they sold for 1/2 price. I bought a few, sent them in, and they all matched the grade or went up. What a bargain for me. Him............not so much.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd crack the coins out and put them in albums and flips

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    Keep cracking them Baley as maybe one day the survivors will fetch $8K like the black NGC's? image
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,947 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a nice 84-cc in an old anacs holder, and I'm fine with it to stay there. >>



    I have a nice 78cc in an old anacs holder, and it's at PCGS right now getting changed over!

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would gladly have a lot of my PCGS coins in those small ANACS holders, then again I really like those old slabs ... especially those with alpha numeric serial numbers.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would gladly have a lot of my PCGS coins in those small ANACS holders, then again I really like those old slabs ... especially those with alpha numeric serial numbers. >>



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  • bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303
    Thanks for all the replies, I am a little surprised that the small anacs slabs are so popular. I do like the new anti counterfeit slabs PCGS has come out with but will keep them were they are at for now. I also like the edge view of the PCGS holders, in the old anacs sometime it is hard to see rim dings.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would get them in PCGS for the Registry.
  • coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't like any of the holders that Anacs has come out with. I buy them only to crack out and put the coins in folders.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As as often the case, it depends on quite a bit: registry interest? Selling soon? Convenience and consistency? Etc

    From my perspective, I still find conservatively graded gold coins in those old ANACS holders.
  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coins you will get burned on, form my experience, are the big jumpers. Really nice DMPL, will usually not cross, and don't ever crack those. A coin like an 1882-O small Anacs MS65, will usually not get a PCGS 65 because of the huge price jump. I also think the really good ones have been cracked long ago, and the ones you are buying at auction, eBay, shops, are what is left over.

    NOW, I did buy a bunch of lovely toners from the original owner, all in small slabs and every single one crossed at grade except..............the 27-P Peace dollar at 65. Those big jumpers in anyones slabs are tough ones to get to PCGS.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    "Properly Graded" is a matter of opinion of which other TPG's may not always hold the same agreement.

    The only 99.99% guarantee regarding coins in the Top TPG Plastic would be that the coin is not counterfeit.

    If the OP likes the coins in ANACS Plastic, then keep them in ANACS Plastic. If the OP is planning on selling the coins, then other TPG Plastic might increase the retail value.
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    Yep I like some of them where they are at. PCGS and NGC might mess it up. ANACS has been around the longest and they know what they are doing. I trust them. Especially the old hollered coins.
  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I found a few old white anacs holders over the years and sent 'em in to PCGS to add to my Registry collection.
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have many coins in Ol' ANA holders, one of my favorites.

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  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    Some of my favorite commems reside in old ana and old anacs holders.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm fond of the lil old white chase holders and keep the coins as it...

    Now the newer blue and yellow label I'd have no issue crossing. >>



    I'm a big fan of the ANACS small holders and would prefer to keep them that way. I have a few and no plans to remove them.



    << <i>BTW what does the latest ANACS holder even look like as I can't keep up with all their holder changes? >>



    Just looked this up on the bay. I had no idea they had a new holder. I have to say I like the clear ring.

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,838 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not cross them if forced to take a downgrade.


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  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That holder does not look like their holder with the slant on top with info ....wonder if they dumped that one and this is a new look, which looks a little or a lot like our hosts here.... btw, I really liked the old little holders, wished they kept them and had done a better insert graphic instead of changing to what they use now
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  • jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    I like the new slabs. Look real nice.
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Old ANA/ANACS holders rule, every thing else sucks. image
  • bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303
    I wonder if it is possible that they will be collectable at some time in the future??
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    ..........I know dealers and other collectors who can see...........
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,890 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends on your collecting objections. There is no single "across the board" answer for this. Look carefully at the individual coin, the ANACS grade and whether the coin really is quality for the grade. Finally, look at price spreads and whether it would even make economic sense to do anything.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always liked the size of the small white ANACS slab and felt other slabs were much larger than they needed to be. At the time they were being made the ANACS slabs were large enough for all US coins with the exception of the $50 Pan-Pac slugs and they would fit in any box made to hold a 2"X2" holders since they were 2" wide. Also, they take up a lot less room in a SDB.

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  • CoinZipCoinZip Posts: 3,253 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would keep them just as they are...... Cheers, RickO >>




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  • ACopACop Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'm fond of the lil old white chase holders and keep the coins as it...

    Now the newer blue and yellow label I'd have no issue crossing. >>



    I'm a big fan of the ANACS small holders and would prefer to keep them that way. I have a few and no plans to remove them.



    << <i>BTW what does the latest ANACS holder even look like as I can't keep up with all their holder changes? >>



    Just looked this up on the bay. I had no idea they had a new holder. I have to say I like the clear ring.

    image >>



    Those look like a counterfeiter's dream. Nice easy bold font.
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my recommendation - if you are holding the coin then keep in the ana holder - if you are selling, then pcgs it and then get it CAC stickered. in the end, it gets you more $ IMHO/
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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,623 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I just had a couple returned from anacs in the same old boring yellow holders.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,634 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Each coin stands on it's own merit, so it depends. And "if" is a hypothetical, which causes me further confusion in making such a decision. So for me, I'd leave them in the hypothetical holders. image
  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,429 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I tend to like all of my coins in PCGS holder for consistency. Combination of OCD and preference to use the PCGS Inventory to track and manage my collection.
  • WildIdeaWildIdea Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the two old ANACS holders I have are housing a circulated civil war store card and an Indian Cent with cud. Just cheap curiosities. They are protecting the coins perfectly and no upside to cracking out.

    I usually don't buy valuable coins housed in them though for my primary collection as the hastle to crack and resubmit usually isn't worth it.
  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The coins you will get burned on, form my experience, are the big jumpers. Really nice DMPL, will usually not cross, and don't ever crack those. A coin like an 1882-O small Anacs MS65, will usually not get a PCGS 65 because of the huge price jump. >>



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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Old ANA/ANACS holders rule, every thing else sucks. image >>




    As long as those older holders have the gold foil hologram reverse (like the Lafayette shown about with 2 letters + numbers for a serial number). Those coins are usually very strong for the grade or next grade up.
    The later smaller holders are nowhere near as strong as the earlier version from 1990 or so.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Old ANA/ANACS holders rule, every thing else sucks. image >>




    As long as those older holders have the gold foil hologram reverse (like the Lafayette shown about with 2 letters + numbers for a serial number). Those coins are usually very strong for the grade or next grade up.
    The later smaller holders are nowhere near as strong as the earlier version from 1990 or so. >>

    I believe those with the gold reverse label were the only ones graded while ANACS was owned by the ANA. I have found that a lot of the coins in holders with either the alpha-numeric serial numbers or the serial numbers with 6 digits were graded fairly accurately. When ANACS went to the 7 digit number, the grading on MS and Proof coins seemed to get a little looser, but the circulated grades still were on target.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Collectors should just leave them where they are until it is time to sell. At that time they can make a determination as to whether it is worthwhile to reholder the coins in PCGS plastic.

    Just this weekend I took a look at the type coins I had given my nephew over the past eighteen years. The coins were all carefully selected regardless of what holder they were in. He knows that the PCGS coins have the best marketability but I advised him to just leave the others as is for the forseable future.
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