Great Southern Coin on Ebay

1868LargeCent

Anyone here bought from them? Their raw inventory is the best I've ever seen. How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin.

Bochiman

I'm sure you tried to use the search function already, right?
They come up every few months.

SoCalBigMark

Link

1868LargeCent

Yeah, there is a greatsoutherncoins with an S, which was NARU'd in 2006, and I've heard bad things about them. greatsoutherncoin, with no S. is the superstore of rawness I'm thinking of. You know, the one that spams your email with Undervalued Coin alerts. There HAS to be a reason why those coins aren't in slabs, but the pics make them look BEAUTIFUL. Should I buy from him?

mkman123

I've heard many bad things and honestly, think to yourself why the coins aren't in slabs.

lkeigwin

<< <i>Yeah, there is a greatsoutherncoins with an S, which was NARU'd in 2006, and I've heard bad things about them. greatsoutherncoin, with no S. is the superstore of rawness I'm thinking of. You know, the one that spams your email with Undervalued Coin alerts. There HAS to be a reason why those coins aren't in slabs, but the pics make them look BEAUTIFUL. Should I buy from him? >>

It's up to you. But I think you'll learn quite a bit by searching old threads on GSC.

Personally, I am very glad each auction is displayed with their logo. It makes it easy to move on quickly.
Lance.

Silveraholic

I made the mistake of buying from them several years ago. Their pictures and descriptions make everything look great. However, ask yourself why such valuable and nice looking coins are not slabbed. Virtually everything they sell is overgraded by them or is a problem coin. Buyer beware.

1868LargeCent

The problem is, I collect my sets in simple 3-ring binders, so I need raw coins. I also buy a lot of circulated stuff. That's why he appeals to me. In Lincoln cents for example, it's very hard to find a raw 1936 proof, and he's about the only seller I can trust to come up with one every so often. He doesn't have one now, but I wanted to know others' experiences with him when the time does come. Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent?

Bayard1908

<< <i>Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent? >>



That's a good question. Crack it out of a problem coin holder is a good answer though.

mkman123

buy a slabbed proof 1936 and then crack it out!

Silveraholic

<< <i>The problem is, I collect my sets in simple 3-ring binders, so I need raw coins. I also buy a lot of circulated stuff. That's why he appeals to me. In Lincoln cents for example, it's very hard to find a raw 1936 proof, and he's about the only seller I can trust to come up with one every so often. He doesn't have one now, but I wanted to know others' experiences with him when the time does come. Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent? >>



If you're going to buy raw coins I would do it in person at a shop or coin show. I have to see the coin in hand to buy raw. Your solution would be to buy a PCGS or NGC coin and crack it out. You could always resubmit when it's time to sell. If you do buy raw coins online I'd make sure you get a no hassle return policy with it.

lcoopie

"but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent"

buy a slabbed one and crack it out

johnny9434

ive heard coflicting stories on them. ill pass......

BryceM

I won't comment on GSC except to say the only coin I purchased from them went back.

In general, however, any coin that is sold raw by a high-volume seller is probably raw for a reason. But, collect what you like, just don't expect anyone else to value the coin exactly like you did.

RYK

At least I can say that you will not be competing against me for purchases, which, the way I see it, is good for both of us!

CoinRaritiesOnline

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<< <i>Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent? >>



That's a good question. Crack it out of a problem coin holder is a good answer though. >>



Very good answer.

michiganboy

I seen them resale the same coins a few times. They sell it then a month or so goes by and there it is again for sale. Makes me stay clear for sure.

astrorat

I've bought a few pieces from them without any difficulty. It's easy to do IF you know what you are buying.

Jcarney

<< <i>And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin. >>



This is not necessarily a good thing. I have noticed their auctions bring top dollar.

Jcarney

<< <i>The problem is, I collect my sets in simple 3-ring binders, so I need raw coins. I also buy a lot of circulated stuff. That's why he appeals to me. In Lincoln cents for example, it's very hard to find a raw 1936 proof, and he's about the only seller I can trust to come up with one every so often. He doesn't have one now, but I wanted to know others' experiences with him when the time does come. Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent? >>



It's very easy to crack a slab (I've done it many times). You also get the assurance of a genuine, accurately graded coin.

oih82w8

Before I was "blocked" from them, I purchased and returned a couple of their coins. They were the same coins that were listed on eBay, but were greatly enhanced. More than likely, all of the really nice raw coins they sell were in "details" slabs previously.

dbldie55

Only coin I purchased from them was a raw 1898 Liberty Nickel.

PCGS graded it MS63 with the FS-301 variety to boot.

okiedude

I've purchased tow coins from them. One about 4-5 years ago, it went back immediately, and they issued a refund. Bought a CBH from them last fall, nice coin, but once in hand a light cleaning was evident. Kept it because I wanted the variety and I did not pay too much. They definitely have a reputation.

coinguy1989

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Personally, I am very glad each auction is displayed with their logo. It makes it easy to move on quickly.
Lance. >>

mrkbrown87

<< <i>The problem is, I collect my sets in simple 3-ring binders, so I need raw coins. I also buy a lot of circulated stuff. That's why he appeals to me. In Lincoln cents for example, it's very hard to find a raw 1936 proof, and he's about the only seller I can trust to come up with one every so often. He doesn't have one now, but I wanted to know others' experiences with him when the time does come. Doesn't sound too good, but where else would I get a raw 1936 proof cent? >>



There are so many Lincoln collectors om these boards. If you put a WANT add on the BST I'm sure you will have some luck.. and honestly in my experience it's safer as well

1868LargeCent

Wow, a lot of crack-out opinions. Honestly, I'd be too scared to try to crack out a proof. It's fine with a business strike, but not a proof.

Yorkshireman

Late last year, I bought a really nice looking raw 1864 Indian Head Cent in "BU+++" condition from them. The photo was amazing. I was disappointed with the coin in hand, but hoped for the best.
I took it to the FUN show to get graded. THANKFULLY, I showed it to two speciality dealers on my way to the PCGS table, hoping I was wrong. It was only an AU.

I asked for and received my money back, even though it was after the approval period had ended.
At least they were honorable about the whole thing.

So it was a bad experiece, but at least it had a happy ending!

1868LargeCent

Seems like most people had your same experience; coin wasn't good, GSC was very honorable in the refund process. Guess that's my answer if or when I buy from them.

thisnamztaken

I have never purchased anything from them because their photos always look unreal, juiced in photoshop, or sort of comic book surrealistic to my eyes. But if they are as bad as everyone here says, they must have terrible feedback, right? Anyone have a link to one of their auctions?

kaz

here is an auction link: proof 3cn silver

neg fb for past 12mos: Los Negativos

kaz

went to their ebaystore and clicked on US coins, on the first page a heck of a lot of the dollars, to my eyes, look like sliders, although decsribed as "gem" or "near gem" BU.

Reminds me of certain big sellers in Coin World doing massive volume in cleaned and slider coins described as uncirculated. Paid my dues there.

This seller seems to refund promptly. probably keeps people from leaving negs too often.

For example, check this "Gem BU" Walker. look at the high points. 'nuff said.

36-s Walker

coindeuce

<< <i>Wow, a lot of crack-out opinions. Honestly, I'd be too scared to try to crack out a proof. It's fine with a business strike, but not a proof. >>



So you're telling us you would take the risk of buying a raw dog from a less than reputable eBay seller, rather than developing a simple skill of removing coins from a 1st tier TPG slab ? Do you have ten thumbs ?

"It's fine with a business strike, but not a proof."
So it would be O.K. to crackout a MS-67+ Red 1936 Lincoln($2,500 PCGS Guide price), but not a Proof-65 Red 1936 Lincoln ($2,500 PCGS Guide price). Good grief.

1868LargeCent

That 3CS doesn't even look like a proof. They did NOT bring out the best in that coin. I think the Walker is just poorly struck or a 58 at worst. You're exaggerating its defects.

66WhiteFBL

Caveat emptor with their raw stuff. Most of it is cleaned.

Outhaul

GSC coins...

bestday

<< <i>Anyone here bought from them? Their raw inventory is the best I've ever seen. How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin. >>



surprised they get such strong prices .. but you got to wonder they don't put the pricey coins in holders

RYK

<< <i>Wow, a lot of crack-out opinions. Honestly, I'd be too scared to try to crack out a proof. It's fine with a business strike, but not a proof. >>


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pcunix

I have bought from them twice. Both slightly overpriced and problem coins. However, they matched coins from the collection I regret selling, so I am ok with them. I don't expect to buy anything else.

sawyerjosh

<< <i>How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? >>



Shill Bidding

kaz

<< <i>Wow, a lot of crack-out opinions. Honestly, I'd be too scared to try to crack out a proof. It's fine with a business strike, but not a proof. >>



I, too, am having problems with your logic in this instance.

Wolf359

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<< <i>Anyone here bought from them? Their raw inventory is the best I've ever seen. How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin. >>



surprised they get such strong prices .. but you got to wonder they don't put the pricey coins in holders >>




Why send to PCGS when the raw coin will yield more in their "auction". The business model is to overgrade with the knowledge that most people either don't know better or simply won't return the coin. GSC is the reason that PCGS came into business, to protect against dealers that do this.

GSC gets the highest prices for raw coins than anyone else I've ever seen. Me, selling the same coin, would get half or less. Frankly their results are impossible. Can't prove it, but must be shill bidding of some sort. eBay must be issuing credits 2-3-4 times before some coins are really sold. They HAVE TO KNOW.

1868LargeCent

Proof surfaces are too sensitive for a potentially damaging process like that. MS surfaces are much tougher in my experience.

1868LargeCent

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<< <i>Anyone here bought from them? Their raw inventory is the best I've ever seen. How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin. >>



surprised they get such strong prices .. but you got to wonder they don't put the pricey coins in holders >>




Why send to PCGS when the raw coin will yield more in their "auction". The business model is to overgrade with the knowledge that most people either don't know better or simply won't return the coin. GSC is the reason that PCGS came into business, to protect against dealers that do this.

GSC gets the highest prices for raw coins than anyone else I've ever seen. Me, selling the same coin, would get half or less. Frankly their results are impossible. Can't prove it, but must be shill bidding of some sort. eBay must be issuing credits 2-3-4 times before some coins are really sold. They HAVE TO KNOW. >>



It's their pictures. They are BEAUTIFUL.

Wolf359

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<< <i>Anyone here bought from them? Their raw inventory is the best I've ever seen. How do they have such an expensive raw inventory? And his pictures just bring out the best in every coin. >>



surprised they get such strong prices .. but you got to wonder they don't put the pricey coins in holders >>




Why send to PCGS when the raw coin will yield more in their "auction". The business model is to overgrade with the knowledge that most people either don't know better or simply won't return the coin. GSC is the reason that PCGS came into business, to protect against dealers that do this.

GSC gets the highest prices for raw coins than anyone else I've ever seen. Me, selling the same coin, would get half or less. Frankly their results are impossible. Can't prove it, but must be shill bidding of some sort. eBay must be issuing credits 2-3-4 times before some coins are really sold. They HAVE TO KNOW. >>



It's their pictures. They are BEAUTIFUL. >>



As a 15 year eBay veteran with my own professional photo setup I've put over 3K into - it's not the photos.

ebaybuyer

I do not understand why people have such issues with GSC, the pictures are as big as a paper plate, nothing is hidden, no surprises, yet people still talk trash about them, perhaps those who want graded coins, should BUY graded coins rather than hoping to "hit it big" by buying raw

Type2

You can buy raw but you better be ready to get bit once in awhile.

WaterSport

Agree, their photos are some of the best resolution on Ebay. I cherry pick them all the time because of there pictures. So like someone else said, if you know your series and what messed coins look like. you should be OK.

WS

OldIndianNutKase

<<I do not understand why people have such issues with GSC, the pictures are as big as a paper plate, nothing is hidden, no surprises, yet people still talk trash about them, perhaps those who want graded coins, should BUY graded coins rather than hoping to "hit it big" by buying raw
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I have bought coins from them, and many did not grade with a TPG, usually because because of code .91 Questionable Color. And I have also bought coins from them that are graded well without question. Problem is that you cannot evaluate a coin that is raw and out of hand. When you do that you just are rolling the dice.

OINK

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pcunix

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<< <i>I do not understand why people have such issues with GSC, the pictures are as big as a paper plate, nothing is hidden, no surprises, yet people still talk trash about them, perhaps those who want graded coins, should BUY graded coins rather than hoping to "hit it big" by buying raw >>



I have heard the same about Coast to Coast yet I purchased a raw coin from them from a photo that they presented, it happened to be their stock photo but I called up and confirmed it matched the stock photo, I wanted it because it was also the D.W. Valentine Plate coin. They graded it Ch Au. I sent it into PCGS, first time it came back QT, second time QT, third time AU55 which I agreed with then off to the Great Green Bean Company where it was blessed and
so it should have been since it was a wholesome naturally toned specimen. It cost $255 from CtoC plus 3 grading fees and a green sticker fee, but worth every penny and more as you can well understand....try to find a D.W. Valentine Plate coin why don't yah. I I listened to all the generalizers who say blanket opinions on every dealer and their inventory I would have missed out on this one. Lesson learned...always a case by case basis for me. >>



Of course. Nothing says that a dealer that pushes questionable coins will never sell honestly. And nothing says it's necessarily deceit - the old "never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by ignorance".

But, when it walks like a duck.. I won't buy from gsc again.

pcunix

<< <i>Caveat emptor with their raw stuff. Most of it is cleaned. >>



I don't know about most, but one I bought certainly was. I sent it off to PCGS; they agreed.

So I gave them negative feedback. Which is actually a lie - I have use for the coin as an educational tool, so I'm not unhappy.

But I see now how they maintain such a high rating. They buy it. First they offered a full refund. I declined. Then they offered a partial refund, letting me tell them what I wanted. I declined again.

They protest innocence, insist it's just a "difference of opinion" and pull out all the stops to try to make you feel you should take their money and change your rating.

I won't

So then - they refunded my money and told me to keep the coin.. they REALLY want that rating!