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PCGS introduces "Gold Shield Security"....DuPont™ Izon® 3D Hologram

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  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    that's like 3 week old news.
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,731 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>that's like 3 week old news. >>



    Received the email 40 minutes ago.
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>that's like 3 week old news. >>



    Received the email 40 minutes ago. >>


    +1. Actually mine just arrived. Came here to break the story :/
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,381 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Email came out today, yes.
    Information about this came out at the PCGS Luncheon at FUN and was mentioned on the forums at that time.

    Haven't seen one in hand yet, but should be interested....

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Does it say when the offer expires?

    I have four (non Secure Shield) coming in toworrow (Thursday) that should be in the new holders. I'll post 'em when I get 'em.
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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 2013-D Lincoln Cent sample slabs they were giving away at Long Beach had this new hologram. There were a few other differences in the slab as well.

    There are two small holes that look like dots in the label near the bottom of each corner in the label. They look like small dimples, but there is a tiny hole in them too.

    There are also four sets of circles in the flat areas of the plastic around the coin... similar to what was on the old rattler slabs and 2-piece holders. The marks are not on the surface of either side of the holder but seem to be imbedded in the interior of the slab.

    I do think it is odd that the hologram sticker is on the surface of the back of the slab and could presumably be damaged as folks toss slabs around and could even be peeled off. Seems like it would have been better to have it under the plastic and affixed to the back of the label itself.

    Here's a pic of one with a few other samples I bought from one of the YNs doing the Long Beach Treasure Hunt...

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Certainly a step in the right direction..... of course it will be good for a certain period of time until the counterfeiters duplicate it.... not easy, but the technology is not closely held..... I praise PCGS for their continuing efforts at prevention and security, but it is a never ending battle. Cheers, RickO
  • JustMe2JustMe2 Posts: 180 ✭✭
    I wonder how closely they look at the old holder/coin before they put the coin into the new holder...
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,965 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do think it is odd that the hologram sticker is on the surface of the back of the slab and could presumably be damaged as folks toss slabs around and could even be peeled off. Seems like it would have been better to have it under the plastic and affixed to the back of the label itself. >>


    I think I figured out why it's done this way. If you look closely at the hologram it has a serial number on it. It can probably be used by PCGS to verify that the correct label is in the correct holder. With the hologram label on the plastic and not the label, it is not possible to move both of them to a fake holder containing the wrong coin. If the hologram were on the label, then it would be possible to remove the label and hologram together, undamaged. Also, notice the pins through the label in the lower corners. This prevents the label from being separated from the holder without destroying either the label or the holder.
    John
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  • robertprrobertpr Posts: 6,862 ✭✭✭
    So when will PCGS actually start using these holders? I assume immediately now that the email has gone out, but of course we all know what happens when one assumes!
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    It was announced over 3 weeks ago that they would be ready to go at Long Beach Expo which was last week
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,348 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It was announced over 3 weeks ago that they would be ready to go at Long Beach Expo which was last week >>



    Guess I wasn't present 3 weeks ago......glad you got a chance to double down on your '3 weeks ago' news.
    I'm amazed at how some forum members hammer those that missed a piece of numismatic news that was already posted.
    I just got the email today....I searched for 'Gold,' 'Shield,' 'DuPont,' etc. and came up with no results....Lord help me if
    I should re-post old news.....I thought I did everything right....sometimes you cannot win on this forum.
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    I search on "pcgs dupont" and came up with over 100 results.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,348 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I search on "pcgs dupont" and came up with over 100 results. >>



    You just can't let go can you?
  • JJMJJM Posts: 8,031 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>that's like 3 week old news. >>



    yea, theres way to much new important threads going on here right now......image
    geeze...........
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the more detailed info! illini420 those are some neat sample slabs...thanks for posting the photos. I should go to a big show sometime! image

    K
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is one of mine from the FUN Show Luncheon. I posted these in my FUN show report. Not great images but you get the idea.
    I went to the luncheon with my boy so we have two of them. image

    imageimage
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  • LochNESSLochNESS Posts: 4,829 ✭✭✭
    Really excited to see one of these in hand. Sure hope some dealers at the ANA Atlanta show are packing.

    I knew there was a reason that I have been procrastinating in submitting my next batch to our hosts.
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...I noticed in an earlier thread that someone had a nice toned Lincoln proof in the new holder...it didn't seem to have the "PCGS" text on the opposite side of the new hologram (on reverse of slab) like it does on the samples and in the photos from the PCGS link on their site... I guess there will be more room for stickers image

    Erik
  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭✭
    Anyone know if these new stickers are still being used? I just got some graded coins back and they were all the older stickers. I do not mind, and I like the regular stickers just fine, but I am curious none the less.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone know if these new stickers are still being used? I just got some graded coins back and they were all the older stickers. I do not mind, and I like the regular stickers just fine, but I am curious none the less. >>



    just got smoe coins back and the new holo sticker things were on them.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,077 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can't figure out when tey use them and when they do not.

    I think, perhaps, the secure plus coins receive it.

    the rest of the time, I'm not sure.

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  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭✭
    Barndog was yours secure plus?

    I sent in mine as a bulk submission so it probably makes sense that I would get the regular stickers.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    I just got a 5 coin submission back, standard holder with the new stickers.


    Too funny, I just checked my show labeled kennedy clad because I couldn't remember which sticker was used...then realized there are no stickers on any of them, no old sticker or new sticker...clad or gold image
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,121 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just got a 5 coin submission back, standard holder with the new stickers.


    Too funny, I just checked my show labeled kennedy clad because I couldn't remember which sticker was used...then realized there are no stickers on any of them, no old sticker or new sticker...clad or gold image >>



    Those stickers are reserved for the "elite" coins and not for "modern junk." image
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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,660 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I search on "pcgs dupont" and came up with over 100 results. >>



    You just can't let go can you? >>



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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,445 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guy on Alibaba says he'll have them available next week. (It's a joke, it's a joke!!!!!) image
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Bulk may still be using the older shells without sticker.
    John
    Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
  • TookybanditTookybandit Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Bulk may still be using the older shells without sticker. >>



    Yup, looks like they are 11.0
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,492 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Barndog was yours secure plus?

    I sent in mine as a bulk submission so it probably makes sense that I would get the regular stickers. >>



    Not secure plus...regular holder, regular service level
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