Better than gold!!!
cohodk
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I love reading the inflation threads. People complain about smaller packages and pink slime and blaming it all on the Govt and FED policies. I think these charts pretty much show where "blame" should be placed. Lots of good meaning folks buy PMs to protect against inflation, when then should have been buying the source. Dont blame the G for higher prices. Blame yourself for allowing companies to "shrink" the packaging.
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Isn't this capitalism and "the American Way"!
We are the monster.
People complain about a 9 dollar movie or pro sports hotdog that's only "worth" 50 cents at home... well, then, go have one at home and shut up about what they cost at the ballpark. Instead of "the government", conspiracy theorists ought to blame their fellow competetive consumers, who are bidding prices higher. You better believe, if no one was buying those expensive buckets of popcorn or soda at the movies, the prices would come on down until they were buying them
Why do vendors raise prices?
because they can
Why do vendors lower prices?
because they have to
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<< <i>Cohodk....I love it!
Isn't this capitalism and "the American Way"!
We are the monster. >>
Those of us in the 99% wish we could share your enthusiasm.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>Cohodk....I love it!
Isn't this capitalism and "the American Way"!
We are the monster. >>
Those of us in the 99% wish we could share your enthusiasm.
Maybe if you had bought one of the above stocks instead of PMs you would be in the 1%.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Also the American way unfortunately.
<< <i>Very interesting charts... I think there may be several messages here.. not sure what the main 'takeaway' would be... Cheers, RickO >>
How about...
1. People gotta eat?
2. Cant eat gold.
3. Stable commodity prices enable companies to increase profit margins, thus leading to increased profits and increased stock prices.
4. The stock market is a basket of stocks. Before bashing all stocks look whats in the basket.
5. Stocks are not a "game, gamble, suckers bet", ect.
6. Stocks were in well established uptrends way before "the great FED manipulation". :0
7. Paper aint so bad?
8. "Stacking" good companies is a great way to increase wealth.
9. Some stocks dont need to be pushed or touted with some gimmick or fear mongering.
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer?
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Mind your cents and the dollars will mind themselves.
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A lot of things are better than gold. Many of your posts are.
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer? >>
What if you are wrong?
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer? >>
What if you are wrong? >>
Then we would have solved our unfunded liabilities problem.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer? >>
What if you are wrong? >>
Then we would have solved our unfunded liabilities problem. >>
sounds like a good plan.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i> Maybe if you had bought one of the above stocks instead of PMs you would be in the 1%. >>
Yeah, but just don't eat what those guys are selling.....otherwise you might not live long enough to enjoy your Packaged & Processed Food company profits.
While we can't eat gold, you don't want to eat that boxed/canned "food" either. Your health barometer is the inverse of those stock charts...but proportional to the cost of your health insurance. They're going to get you one way or the other. Those companies don't have to pushed to provide us with calories that are devoid of nutrients, minerals or vitamins. They do it for profits. And there's less and less edible commodities in these foods....though quite a bit more petroleum. Like I said, buy the stock, not their food. In a fuel emergency, those Cap'n Crunches should burn pretty well in the old wood stove. There's so much petroleum in our foods today that I'm surprised the EPA doesn't require each individual to be licensed as a "point source" generator.
To take advantage of those inverse health effects we should be buying shares in hospitals, health care insurers, and mortuaries. The govt has found the perfect solution to thin the herd.....fast and processed foods....followed by diminishing health care quality and availability as the effects of eating that junk for 30-50 years takes hold. I would agree that the Kellog, Hormel, and General Mills charts support "the considerable inflation" argument. Ideally, the cost of "foods" should be dropping as techniques have "improved" to make more of them at a lower cost. But, that hasn't been happening. If there weren't inflation, those charts would be flat or declining. But, selling something worth 10c for $1 or $2 could explain such profits....especially when you charge the same or higher for something as the packaging shrinks and old ingredients are replaced with fillers or pink slime.
I used to eat a lot of canned Hormel chili out of fast food machines back in 1979 when I was living in US Navy quarters. That stuff was lethal back then....but it tasted good. And I ate more Cocoa Puffs and Cocoa
Krispies in a 10 year period back in the 1960's than most any human should have.
Isn't massively rising debt just disguised inflation?
<< <i>Why do vendors raise prices?
because they can
Why do vendors lower prices?
because they have to >>
I like that!
Is this morphing into a GMO thread ?
There are many things better than gold. I won't name names. A hug from a nice person is better than gold.
I bought a gold chain for $1700 from a guy. Tested… until the refiner got it. 97% copper didn't pay me $1700.
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer? >>
What if you are wrong? >>
Then we would have solved our unfunded liabilities problem. >>
sounds like a good plan. >>
In God We Trust.... all others pay in Gold and Silver!
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<< <i>Nice pop from the mid 90's when genetically engineered foods traded health for fatter grocery margins.
Also the American way unfortunately. >>
What if these "genetically engineered" crops are actually better for people and help them live longer? >>
What if you are wrong? >>
Then we would have solved our unfunded liabilities problem. >>
sounds like a good plan. >>
Not quite what sure what you mean. I dont think GM crops pose a danger to human life. I also did not say it was a "good plan".
So what has that told you?
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That is a beautiful chart demonstrating the power of a bulge in a population. The increase in the number of people with diabetes is directly corrolated to the increase in population of people entering ages at which diabetes become evident.
Again, dont blame Kelloggs or Hormel. Blame people for eating too much.
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That is a beautiful chart demonstrating the power of a bulge in a population. The increase in the number of people with diabetes is directly corrolated to the increase in population of people entering ages at which diabetes become evident.
Again, don't blame Kelloggs or Hormel. Blame people for eating too much. >>
It's FAR more than just eating too much. Recent studies have shown this. Diabetes is far more related to what, how, and when you eat it (and genetic/environmental factors) vs. the total food volume. Diabetes is being spurred along by eating nutritionally lacking foods (ie no micronutrients, vitamins, antioxidants, little to no fiber, overly processed carbohydrates that act essentially like sugar, sugary drinks, etc. and not combining that with protein/fats). You can probably eat a 1600-2200 cal/day diet and not get fat but be a huge risk for diabetes if you generally eat the wrong foods and combine them improperly and at the wrong times of the day (ie a continual series of blood sugar spikes). More and more thin people are getting diabetes too which doesn't make sense until you think about it. Sorry, but the fast and processed food industries are at least half the problem. The increase in diabetes and pre-diabetes in adolescents has risen dramatically and is at crisis levels. Diabetes used to be mainly just be an oldster thing 30 years ago. Now it affects a much higher % of kids as well. All of this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The youth of today are fighting large increases in various auto immune diseases that just didn't happen 30-50 years ago.....diabetes is just one of the many things that they now have to cope with. My youngest brother lived with juvenile type 1 diabetes since age 3.
The CDC attributes nearly all of diabetes to being overweight. That's odd because here's what the diabetes association has to say on that:
Myth: If you are overweight or obese, you will eventually develop type 2 diabetes.
Fact: Being overweight is a risk factor for developing this disease, but other risk factors such as family history, ethnicity and age also play a role. Unfortunately, too many people disregard the other risk factors for diabetes and think that weight is the only risk factor for type 2 diabetes. Most overweight people never develop type 2 diabetes, and many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight.
Also, we are the fattest nation on the planet so any opportunity to convince people to loose weight is a good thing.
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LOL, been there! Done that!
I knew it would happen.
Diet (junk food and poor self-control) exercise (or lack thereof, due to a sedentary lifestyle) environmental/work-related exposure to pollution, can play a role, too, in developing these medical conditions, as of course do genetics/family history.
Also a factor: increasing early identification (better at diagnosis) of these conditions.
As usual, there's is not just one cause/effect of any phenomenon, as much as folks enjoy oversimplifying things and nursing their pet demons.
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<< <i>Family, ethnicity and age are uncontrollable factors. That is why people focus on weight / obesity.
Also, we are the fattest nation on the planet so any opportunity to convince people to loose weight is a good thing. >>
Not anymore; America has lost a title it never wanted to have. It's no longer the fattest country.
Mexico is now the fattest nation in this hemisphere and one of the fattest countries in the world. With a 32.8 percent obesity rate, Mexico has now surpassed America’s 31.8. However it is not the very fattest. A few islands in the Pacific Ocean greatly outweigh Mexico and America.
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I agree. I would not be a buyer of those stocks. They do not represent relative value, nor do they represent the "stock market".
Knowledge is the enemy of fear