thoughts on 1907 $10 Indian

Baley

recently got this 1907 no motto eagle, what are your feelings about the coin and is it a keeper? (about what grade does it appear)



I've been wanting one of these for some time, liking the uncluttered legend without IGWT, appreciate your opinions, thanks

VanHalen

The color and luster look pretty good. The surfaces appear a bit grainy in the images, perhaps one of those satin proofs?

coinbuf

A $10 gold indian is on my list of would like to have also. This seems to be a nice AU without alot of heavy bagmarks.

PerryHall

Very attractive coin and one of my favorite designs. There appears to be rub on the eagle's shoulder so it may be an AU58 but it has very clean surfaces and no wear in the fields so it more likely got a MS63 grade or higher. This one is definitely a keeper.

Bullsitter

Nice color, AU50.

indeetlib

<< <i>Very attractive coin and one of my favorite designs. There appears to be rub on the eagle's shoulder so it may be an AU58 but it has very clean surfaces and no wear in the fields so it more likely got a MS63 grade or higher. This one is definitely a keeper. >>



+1

s4ny

Beautiful uncluttered coin. Slight wear, I am going AU55.

ricko

Nice Indian.... picture grading would put it from 58 to 62 IMO.... Cheers, RickO

rkfish

nice Indian.....I would venture au55-au58

BillJones

I would grade this coin as an AU-55. It has nice color and surfaces. These coins were softly struck, especially in the center of the obverse. For that reason the grading service grades can be all over the map. I have one in an NGC MS-62 holder that I would grade at least one point higher.

It is a keeper if an AU coin is your goal. It's about as nice as you are going find for that grade.

Patches

Great coin, I like the look of it...i imagine its in an AU50/53 holder.

Catbert

I love it. Is that the feedback you sought?

derryb

Nice, MS62

BillJones

<< <i>Great coin, I like the look of it...i imagine its in an AU50/53 holder. >>



Here is a MS-64 CAC example. This shows how much detail was not struck up on these coins, which often results in under grading.

TwoSides2aCoin

I iike it as an AU 50 but I'd love it as an AU58 or anything in between

agentjim007

Take a pic of that coin under a halogen and I would be able to see it. I don't know how you guys can tell under that yellow light.

Baley

Sorry about the nighttime pics,



here are some tilted in daylight and cropped to 50kb









a range of opinions is expected for this one. it is pcgs graded

steveben

It's a very nice example and I grade it au55.

PerryHall

Now that we have better pics, I'll change my guess to AU55.

indeetlib

Definitely looks more like an AU in the new photos, but still a nice coin.

derryb

new pics, new guess - AU58

Baley

no one has said the PCGS grade yet, even with two or more guesses each.

maybe this is similar to the conversation that took place in the finalizing room

mariner67

MS 63-64.
Nice!

illini420

I'll guess AU53.

crazyhounddog

I think it looks to be at least an AU-55 and a very nice specimen. VERY clean!!!

Stuart

Baley, Based on the photos that you provided, I'd conservatively grade it as AU-55.

It's an attractive & eye appealing $10 Indian, and probably a keeper!

kiyote

Problem-free and a great design. This is on my list for my box of 20 someday.

VanHalen

While it certainly looks AU if nobody has said the grade then PCGS XF45.

keyman64

Not my series but I do prefer coins without IGWT. I am a fan of the separation of church and state thingie that the US Gov't doesn't care about while they demonstrate their selective enforcement of the laws in this country.

johnny9434

im in the au 55 camp as well and it looks like a keeper as well. nice coin

bluelobster

Would probably go 62 at NGC, but more like au58 at PCGS.

crypto79

<< <i>Would probably go 62 at NGC, but more like au58 at PCGS. >>



I agree with you

Cougar1978

Definitely very lightly circulated. It looks like a very nice Ch AU - AU55. Keeper coin.

jom

Eagle's shoulder looks a bit dark due to some rub. I'd say AU58.

EDIT: I didn't see the new photo. AU55.

Damn Chrome is still messing up the post order...grrr...

jom

dollarsandcents

<< <i>Not my series but I do prefer coins without IGWT. I am a fan of the separation of church and state thingie that the US Gov't doesn't care about while they demonstrate their selective enforcement of the laws in this country. >>



Whoa, talk about a ton of mis-understanding and misinformation getting tossed around in the statement above.

roadrunner

Even though AU58 has already been mentioned....and no one has got it right....I'd still say AU58. A couple of rim cuts could drop it a point.

I'd not be surprised on anything from 55 to 62. It does have basically full field luster. Good deal as an AU and maybe not so great a deal as MS. It does have the initial appearance of being unc. And if what appears to be
a mixture of "rub" and strike on the Indian's curls and eagle's shoulder is 100% strike, then MS62 is not unrealistic. These coins sometimes won't get the same grade twice on 3 submissions.

keyman64

<< <i>

<< <i>Not my series but I do prefer coins without IGWT. I am a fan of the separation of church and state thingie that the US Gov't doesn't care about while they demonstrate their selective enforcement of the laws in this country. >>



Whoa, talk about a ton of mis-understanding and misinformation getting tossed around in the statement above. >>

I disagree with your assertion, provide evidence, education and reasoning.

illini420

Nice looking PQ coin for the most part, but there is way too much breast feather detail missing on the reverse to get AU58 or even AU55 in my opinion. It is too nice looking to get AU50 in my opinion as AU50 is usually reserved for ugly AU coins. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave it XF45 or AU53... I think it's got nice eye appeal overall so I chose AU53.

FullStrike

The $10 Indian is one of my favorites, after my #1, the 21 Peace, that is. I'd say your Coin is anywhere from AU53 up to about
MS60. There's not a thing wrong with that Coin. It's a beauty. A true work of Art.

TwoSides2aCoin

So what is it ? Genuine, altered surfaces ?

golden

I will go with 53.

Baley

The coin is straight graded by PCGS, and still, no one has yet mentioned the slab grade exactly. (a guess of "somewhere between Good and XF" is NOT a correct answer for a VF25 coin, for example, so a wide range is not really a valid guess, even if technically correct, as it doesn't provide much information)..

It appears to be tough to grade these from pictures, and probably in person, too, as there will be market grading going on, as most estimates are low vs. PCGS' opinion, and those who changed their guesses when the new pictures were posted were closer the first time they answered

TwoSides2aCoin

In that case, it's an excellent exercise and thank you Baley. I can't love it as an AU 58… I'm going to have to guess it's LDS MS 61 (11 points off)

indeetlib

MS65? What haven't we guessed?

kiyote

<< <i>

<< <i>Not my series but I do prefer coins without IGWT. I am a fan of the separation of church and state thingie that the US Gov't doesn't care about while they demonstrate their selective enforcement of the laws in this country. >>


Same reason why I want an '08 No Motto $20 for my first gold coin. >>



The design also looks a lot cleaner without the motto. Saint's don't look too bad with motto 'cause it's well, evenly placed but on the Indian it clutters the field.

BryceM

I dunno. Looks AU-like from the photos, but to really tell I'd need to look at the high-point surfaces through a loupe or at least in good light. If there is good frost/texture on the high-points it could be just a weak strike. If it has pretty nice luster I could see it in a 63+/64 holder (since everyone is guessing low). It has a few hits, but none of them are terribly distracting. It looks like a nice coin and I think there is pretty nice luster from the photos. It could never make it to a 65 holder with that strike though.

earlycoins

The problem with 07s is that they aren't rare. If one is on a budget, the sweet spot appears to be a 61. If you can spend a bit more, a 62. But AUs of the date are basically holdered bullion. Best to stretch a bit and get a nice coin, CAC'd if possible, and again budget permitting. Definite wear on this piece, more so on the reverse than obverse, regardless of holdered grade.

EC

Justlooking

I like it at 55.