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2013 United States Mint Limited Edition Silver Proof Set™

blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
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Anyone have any pics of this yet or any projected mint figures?
Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

jeff
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    some pics on us mint product page


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  • blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
    Thanks MsMorrisine. I prob could have found it with a little more digging but...
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Uggh, packaging options. Again…


    Well, this comes from all the First Strike madness IMO. Those are "aftermarket" packaging options, so why shouldn't our buddies get in on the action?
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  • blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
    Hopefully the coins will be better quality than the ones that came in the regular 2013 Silver Proof set. I was really disappointed in them. image
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hardly any from last year's set were submitted for First Strike, and apparently very few unopened boxes were saved for possible future First Strikes. The 2012-W Silver Eagle from the set is especially scarce in First Strike with only 5 in PR70, 45 in PR69 and a few in lower grades. A PR70 First Strike recently sold for over $5K on eBay, and two PR69's realized around $500 each.

    I suspect that the 2013 sets will generate many more First Strike submissions than the 2012 set did.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    $140 for that....ummm...no thanks. You flippers have fun and good luck image

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  • CoinflipCoinflip Posts: 845 ✭✭✭
    very very interesting
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  • OnedollarnohollarOnedollarnohollar Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭✭
    limited edition set

    Who's in?
  • chiefbobchiefbob Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    Is there any distinguishing finish that sets the coins apart from regular production?
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,855 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Years ago I bought the first "Legacy" Proof set. All it had in it was the same coins in different packaging. After a while I decided that did nothing for me, and I sold it for a small profit. Although I prefer original mint packaging for modern coins, I don't collect
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  • blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
    There isn't any difference in the finish on any of the coins. Just the included coins is what separates it as it's the only "sealed" proof set with all silver coins of different denominations. I believe they're the only proof sets to contain an actual "silver dollar" other than the bicentennial sets. I could be mistaken. Coffee not working too quick today. I know I'll be getting one for display with my other proof sets and at least (?) for investment. Hopefully they'll jump up quick like the 2012 Silver Proof sets. image
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,765 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Somehow your avatar is appropriate with Homer playing the part of US Mint AND the TPGs ....
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  • edgaredgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    Shipping: Shipping is expected to begin in the first quarter of CY2014. Please check our website for the latest shipping information.



    What's with the mint taking orders for items to be delivered months in the future? (same with the Teddy set: Shipping: Shipping is expected to begin in early March 2014.)


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    people will order them up, till sell out (50,000 max). Wait a month then cancel them, how many will actually ship?


    When will they learn? Don't they remember the last ASE set fiasco?

    (l8-)>>

  • blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
    No Kidding. The ASE was an absolute joke. I was told 3 (maybe 4) different days it was scheduled to ship and I would be billed. Then I get billed and my sets ship on a completely different day than I was told. image
    btw edgar, I like your Mongolian Ural Owl avatar. That WP series is on my list. image Very unique coins.
    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    Bought 1 for the heck of it
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The mintage limit for 2012 sets was 50,000. All 50,000 were sold. The 2012 sets are now bringing $280 to $300 each on eBay.

    The mintage limit for 2013 sets is 50,000. About 37,000 sets have been ordered so far. Price from the Mint is $139.95.

    Thoughts?

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>limited edition set

    Who's in? >>

    Ouch! No way! You don't even get the cent or nickel?! I guess you have to buy another $50 set to get your 6 cents? Not for me.
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The mintage limit for 2012 sets was 50,000. All 50,000 were sold. The 2012 sets are now bringing $280 to $300 each on eBay.

    The mintage limit for 2013 sets is 50,000. About 37,000 sets have been ordered so far. Price from the Mint is $139.95.

    Thoughts? >>



    The 2012 brings good money only because the mint pulled the silver sets early and kept the mintage low for the Kennedy and Rosevelt...I bought 2 last year and ordered 2 again this year...but only because I'm an idiot image

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  • blacksmokeblacksmoke Posts: 603
    I bought a set from NWT Mint for a little less than current Ebay prices. I think I'm going to send it back for a refund (this place is sold out) and buy another set. The case of the set I bought is bowed a little and the half (the reason this is so much $ to begin with) and the dime are tilted to the point that the reeded edges have hit the inside of the case and actually damaged the case. There are plastic particles on the coins. Also, I noticed that due to the case bowing like it has, the two halves of the case had actually started to separate and I had to push them back together and there is also a chip on the inside of the case edge. Anyone else get a bowed case? EDITED TO ADD THAT THIS IS A 2012 SET, not 2013.

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    Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

    jeff
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only purchased the anniversary sets.... the Limited Editions do not appeal to my 'collector' sense...image Cheers, RickO
  • jociv12254jociv12254 Posts: 41
    I only bought one set directly from the mint. It was very nice with no problems.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 36,104 ✭✭✭✭✭
    mine went "in stock and reserved" with cancel box gone

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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    Yup, my 12/12 order is the same (in stock and reserved) but my February orders still are back ordered with the cancel box present....
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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    my credit card was charged today image

    Erik
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Slightly over 42,000 sets have been sold, only 8,000 to go.

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  • jociv12254jociv12254 Posts: 41
    I just received email from mint saying they shipped my 2013 set out today. Now if I can get them to ship my Theodore oosevelt set, I'll be caught up
  • jociv12254jociv12254 Posts: 41
    Roosevelt.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A PCGS PR70 2012-W Silver Eagle from the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set just sold for $3950, even though it was advertised as having a spot.

    Link

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  • SilveraholicSilveraholic Posts: 197 ✭


    << <i>A PCGS PR70 2012-W Silver Eagle from the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set just sold for $3950, even though it was advertised as having a spot.

    Link >>



    Sorry, but how is this coin any different than a regular 2012-W proof silver eagle? What does it matter what packaging it comes in and why note it on the slab? A fool and his money...
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,631 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If it's not collectible it's flippable. But , as a previous poster has so eloquently pointed out, it hardly makes sense in the scope of numismatics. To each their own. I support and stand behind the collectors either way and will not knock or criticize your choices. EVER image I love collectors and collecting. The bidness is another story.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry, but how is this coin any different than a regular 2012-W proof silver eagle? >>


    Needed for certain registry sets. Only 9 exist in PR70 First Strike at the moment.

    Even PR69 First Strikes are bringing upwards of $600.

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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,959 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>A PCGS PR70 2012-W Silver Eagle from the Limited Edition Silver Proof Set just sold for $3950, even though it was advertised as having a spot.

    Link >>



    Sorry, but how is this coin any different than a regular 2012-W proof silver eagle? What does it matter what packaging it comes in and why note it on the slab? A fool and his money... >>



    Just beyond belief! To think that I believed that that extra $ which the ANA designation on the RP Buff slabs was bringing was crazy - that's nothing compared to this. Boggles the mind.
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  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭
    This is label collecting....not coin collecting.
  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    instead of buying one I bought 10 just now if I am not mistaken you have to buy 10 in order to even send in for first strike am i correct on this?
    also im guessing as long as you leave the coins sealed for them to be first strike eligible???
  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    ebay stupid price
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    While I am with the people who are aghast at the "label collecting", it does no good to whine about it.
    It isn't a new thing in the last few years and, if one plays the game, one may as well make the money.

    For me, I got out of the label playing flipping games and I am fine with a different focus...but I know it exists and that people do it.

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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is label collecting....not coin collecting. >>




    Label Collecting is a hobby enjoyed by a few. Ive heard of people collecting labels off of fruit crates. Lables off of canned tomatoes
    People collect Cigar Bands. Why not Coin Slab labels too?

    I once heard of someone collecting bags and wrappers for McDonalds. It was a famous Numismatist.

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  • SilveraholicSilveraholic Posts: 197 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This is label collecting....not coin collecting. >>




    Label Collecting is a hobby enjoyed by a few. Ive heard of people collecting labels off of fruit crates. Lables off of canned tomatoes
    People collect Cigar Bands. Why not Coin Slab labels too?

    I once heard of someone collecting bags and wrappers for McDonalds. It was a famous Numismatist.

    Offer anything for sale, someone will buy it. >>



    Lol. McDonald's wrappers? There is a fine line between collector and hoarder. This falls in with the latter.
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 2012 Limited Edition set went under nearly everyone's radar in submitting coins for First Strike. Hence the outsized prices.

    I suspect that many more of each subsequent year's set will be submitted for First Strike, causing the 2012 issues to remain the First Strike keys to the series.

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  • edgaredgar Posts: 886 ✭✭✭✭
    Don't be so sure, I ordered and received 2 orders of 1 set each, First Strike Eligible. Happy to see the pops, then I saw someones post, wanting to buy sealed FS boxes, to "make enough for a submission"? then I checked and was shocked to find that our host placed a restiction on these, "(Limited Edition PR Set" designation only available through the Bulk Department)". I still can't believe that they would throw this bone to bulk submissions only. Can't think of any reason for this limitation. But That's part of the reason for low FS pops. really soured me on submissions and registry sets. Those boxes remain sealed. maybe I'll find 8 more sealed sets.....maybe not

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  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't be so sure, I ordered and received 2 orders of 1 set each, First Strike Eligible. Happy to see the pops, then I saw someones post, wanting to buy sealed FS boxes, to "make enough for a submission"? then I checked and was shocked to find that our host placed a restiction on these, "(Limited Edition PR Set" designation only available through the Bulk Department)". I still can't believe that they would throw this bone to bulk submissions only. Can't think of any reason for this limitation. But That's part of the reason for low FS pops. really soured me on submissions and registry sets. Those boxes remain sealed. maybe I'll find 8 more sealed sets.....maybe not

    image >>



    Ya I knew this but what I don't understand is the cutoff time of jan 29th of 2013?
    My question is when is the cutoff date for the coins this year ?
    Thanks brett
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't see a First Strike cutoff date for the 2013 sets posted yet, will depend upon initial ship date which should be soon.

    Even disregarding the bulk submission restriction, not many First Strike eligible 2012 sets were saved in the original shipping boxes. Very few such boxes showed up on eBay; the number for the 2012 Coin and Currency Set and other special sets was much higher. It's likely that many collectors and speculators were unaware that a special label would be available - as far as I know, PCGS is the only grading service that offers this set-specific label.

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  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    I ordered mine last night but the wierd thing is when i go and track my items it comes up with a message of
    We are unable to display all of your orders. Please call Customer Service at 1-800-USA-MINT (872-6468) and we will be happy to assist you. We apologize for the inconvenience.
    anyone else have this issue
  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭
    That happened a couple of weeks ago to me...I called and they said they were aware of a glitch that was causing it and it would correct itself in a couple of days...it did

    Strange this was when I logged into my Mint account the box that previews my last order said: "2013 LE Proof set...sold out"...of course it wasn't
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  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    I read that 2013 will be the 2nd lowest yearly mintage for proof sets
    Thoughts?
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,491 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Didn't realize the 2012 sets are in such demand. Maybe I'll pick up a few of the 2013 sets.
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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I read that 2013 will be the 2nd lowest yearly mintage for proof sets
    Thoughts? >>

    My thought is.......................



    That's a helluva hype statement that has absolutely nothing to do with "Proof Sets".

    Now if it were stated that is the 2nd lowest production of US Mint Packaging for a product with coins that are available elsewhere.............


    Nah, not even that would work for me.

    Provided you're still referring to the 2013 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set.
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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 2013 Silver Proof Set is finished at 420k, the second lowest mintage after the 2012 set at 395k.

    Add 50k each for the 2012 and 2013 Limited Edition sets to arrive at the mintages for each year's silver dimes, quarters and halves.

    The 2012 Limited Edition sets are bringing $250 to $300 each on eBay. The 2013 sets are still available from the Mint at $140 each, but preparing to go dark. At that price they appear to be a decent value.

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  • BigABigA Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Provided you're still referring to the 2013 Limited Edition Silver Proof Set. >>



    I assumed he was referring to silver proof sets or actually "proof sets" since this is only the 2nd LEPS
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  • bretts911bretts911 Posts: 764 ✭✭✭
    Yes I was referring to the silver proof sets and not just the les edition sorry about that was half asleep when I was typing image

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