<< <i>Big ten might as well be a mid major conference now due to the lack of anything resembling competition in the entire conference. Running the table there and scheduling and beating nobody of note in non conference and you have a paper tiger in OSU. >>
Sounds like the Pac 10 during USC's latest title run
The best from the SEC has proven over the past 7 years that they are easily the best.
Next year we go to a playoff, which will easily involve one or two SEC schools.
Even though we all know that Ohio State probably should not be in the BCS championship game this year because Auburn and Alabama would both beat them on any given Saturday, I say just let them in the game this year if they beat Michigan State.
At least that's what fans in Tallahassee are thinking.
This is simple...if Ohio State beats Michigan State, they are in. Assuming FSU beats Duke, they are obviously in. If either of them lose, Auburn is in. If somehow both lose, then it's probably a rematch of Auburn and Bama unless Auburn loses to Mizzou. If so, Mizzou is in.
No need to debate any further until next Saturday night.
<< <i>This is simple...if Ohio State beats Michigan State, they are in. >>
No, its not that simple at all. There will be MANY who feel that a 1-loss Auburn OR a 1-loss Missouri has a stronger resume and body of work than Ohio State. Going 12-0 is awesome, but when another team plays a much tougher schedule and goes 11-1, there is a debate to be had. The debate will be had. Its far from "simple" as you put it. If only OSU had opened the season with a big non-conference game....
Interesting debate for sure. I would like an SEC team in the final as many will feel it's not a true national championship game if it's not them in there. Thus, Auburn v. FSU makes the most sense.
Ohio State has a good case though.
It's interesting to note that two cast offs from the very weak Big 12 have been able to quickly be so competitive in the mighty SEC.
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Baylor is not good. They piled up incredible offensive stats against horrible opponents. Even SEC fan can make fun of the oppo that Baylor played! Seriously though, their defense is horrible. Thus the fact that OK State beat Baylor is as relevant as UCLA beating USC this weekend. (yes, I know that's irrelevant and that's my point... and I just wanted to type those words).
An argument can be made for several teams. Ok State hasn't beat anybody good besides Baylor. The Big 12 was pretty bad this year. Of course they still have to beat OU this weekend so let's hold on a minute before we put them into the argument.
Hopefully Florida State, Ohio State and Auburn all lose to create total chaos!
<< <i>If only OSU had opened the season with a big non-conference game.... >>
If they did that their chance of going to the National Championship game would have been far less. By not doing that, they're now only one win away from going
after all the self-anointing of Alabama they have lost to Auburn and now all that's left for the week is another round of "I hate Ohio State" to suffer through. if everyone is so tuned in and so smart about Football and sports in general why is it that everyone has forgotten the mantra about "any given Sunday" or Saturday as the College case may be?? Alabama's -day just arrived over the weekend in a game that really wasn't much different then the game that Michigan almost won: exciting, evenly played and more scoring than anticipated, with two rivals playing in a game where everything that had happened earlier in the season really had no bearing on the outcome.
this next round should be exciting as well, even though I'm sure all the forum experts can tell us who will win, right?? despite all the feelings about who is best, doesn't it make sense that if Florida State and Ohio State both finish undefeated that they should play for the Championship?? sometimes everyone forgets just how difficult it is to finish a season undefeated(just as Nick Saban, I bet he can tell you).
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame?
after all the self-anointing of Alabama they have lost to Auburn and now all that's left for the week is another round of "I hate Ohio State" to suffer through. if everyone is so tuned in and so smart about Football and sports in general why is it that everyone has forgotten the mantra about "any given Sunday" or Saturday as the College case may be?? Alabama's -day just arrived over the weekend in a game that really wasn't much different then the game that Michigan almost won: exciting, evenly played and more scoring than anticipated, with two rivals playing in a game where everything that had happened earlier in the season really had no bearing on the outcome.
this next round should be exciting as well, even though I'm sure all the forum experts can tell us who will win, right?? despite all the feelings about who is best, doesn't it make sense that if Florida State and Ohio State both finish undefeated that they should play for the Championship?? sometimes everyone forgets just how difficult it is to finish a season undefeated(just as Nick Saban, I bet he can tell you). >>
I don't hate Ohio State but I do think Michigan State is peaking at the right time. Should be a very good game!
Some of the rabid college football fans that believe that "real college football" is played only in the SEC would probably be very enthusiastic about a system where:
1. the 14 teams in the SEC are the only ones that are eligible to be ranked in the top 14 of the various polls;
2. the 14 teams in the SEC are the only ones eligible to be given spots in the top 7 post season bowl games;
3. the top 4 teams in the SEC are the only ones eligible to be given spots in the 4 team playoff that will be implemented for the 2014 seaons to determine the National Champion; and
4. all other D-1 college football teams in the country are dropped one level of competition down (or are disbanded altogether) so that SEC football is not diluted, soiled, tarnished or sullied by having to have any contact with inferior non SEC teams.
My statement was "so that SEC football is not diluted, soiled, tarnished or sullied by having to have any contact with inferior NON SEC teams."
You missed the word NON and thus missed what I was trying to convey.
All 14 SEC football teams play football at a level that is just so much higher and better than the football played by college football teams that are not in the SEC.
SEC football (being so much better and special than non SEC football) should be separated from and kept apart from all other NON SEC college football teams. Would not want SEC teams to get "cooties" or some other socially unacceptable disease or contaminant from these other NON SEC teams.
I would not be surprised to find that many SEC football fans would agree 100% with the sentiment expressed in my recent posts to this thread (even though I type with tongue in cheek).
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat?
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Auburn is overrated? A team that just knocked off the number one team in the land is somehow overrated? Good gravy the homerism is strong in this one. >>
Yep overrated. They beat both Georgia and Alabama on fluke plays.
Ohio State was LUCKY that Michigan went for two instead of taking the tie and the game into overtime. OSU has beaten exactly NOBODY of note, and struggled against many of their cupcake opponents. Auburn beat the number one team in the land.
Maybe next year OSU will grow a pair and actually schedule someone tough, until then, they are simply Cupcake U.
<< <i>Ohio State was LUCKY that Michigan went for two instead of taking the tie and the game into overtime. OSU has beaten exactly NOBODY of note, and struggled against many of their cupcake opponents. Auburn beat the number one team in the land.
Maybe next year OSU will grow a pair and actually schedule someone tough, until then, they are simply Cupcake U. >>
What did OSU do that was lucky? Hoke knew he couldn't stop OSU's offense so his chances of winning in OT were slim.
Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat?
If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite.
<< <i> Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat? >>
Alabama has played the fifth toughest schedule. FSU 42nd. Auburn has played the FOURTH toughest schedule. OSU? 52nd. You lose again, sparky.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
You, sir, are impossible. OSU has beaten NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY. They scheduled the softest of cupcakes out of conference (Buffalo ranked 75, San Diego St. ranked 76, Cal ranked 106, Florida A&M LOL). And you expect to be ranked #1?
To quote the great McEnroe "You CANNOT be serious!"
<< <i> Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat? >>
Alabama has played the fifth toughest schedule. FSU 42nd. Auburn has played the FOURTH toughest schedule. OSU? 52nd. You lose again, sparky.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
You, sir, are impossible. OSU has beaten NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY. They scheduled the softest of cupcakes out of conference (Buffalo ranked 75, San Diego St. ranked 76, Cal ranked 106, Florida A&M LOL). And you expect to be ranked #1?
To quote the great McEnroe "You CANNOT be serious!" >>
Your stats are wrong. Even all the espn analysts said FSU played a weaker schedule than OSU. Look who FSU plays in their conference game oh boy Duke LOL.
So even using those rankings, the schedules are 9 spots apart... not a huge gap. Look at what both teams have done with those schedules, though. Florida State starters don't play past halftime very often.
Look, Ohio State could be the better team but it's tough to compare when there's nothing really near a common opponent. My issue with your argument is that you keep acting like a 67th ranked schedule is light years beyond a 76th ranked schedule. They're both pretty mediocre/crappy. If you want to talk X's and O's about how Florida State's linebacking corps is one of the fastest and best in the nation and has a strength against spread teams, or how Ohio State's passing defense fails to contain even the most average of B1G passing offenses, then I'm all ears. If you're going to simply post SoS rankings every week I'll just keep ignoring this thread.
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat? >>
Beat Virginia Tech by 25. Then beat #6 Texas A&M. Shut out #21 Ole Miss. Won 3 consecutive conference games by a combined score of 145-17. Then beat #13 LSU by 3 TDs.
Baylor's toughest test for the first 2 months was Kansas State. Real powerhouse there. Finally play a real team (Ok State) and get hammered.
Well said Goot as usual. Impossible to compare right now. I hope they do play. I think it could be like that U$C v. OK national championship game about 10 years ago. Not much of a game. I think FSU will win big.
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat? >>
Beat Virginia Tech by 25. Then beat #6 Texas A&M. Shut out #21 Ole Miss. Won 3 consecutive conference games by a combined score of 145-17. Then beat #13 LSU by 3 TDs.
Baylor's toughest test for the first 2 months was Kansas State. Real powerhouse there. Finally play a real team (Ok State) and get hammered.
BTW, I have 4 kids older than 10 >>
HAHA texas a@m shouldn't even be ranked.
Lots of things could happen. OSU could lose to mich state. Possible charges on Winston so they would be going with a 3rd string qb. We will wait and see.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today. >>
OSU is a 2 1/2 point fav if they played today. >>
Someone doesn't know thing one about college football. If they played today, based on Auburn beating Alabama, they'd be a 3 point favorite. OSU continues to not have played anyone of note, Auburn just knocked off the #1 and winner of multiple national titles.
But, as someone else noted, it won't matter, as OSU is losing this weekend.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today. >>
OSU is a 2 1/2 point fav if they played today. >>
Someone doesn't know thing one about college football. If they played today, based on Auburn beating Alabama, they'd be a 3 point favorite. OSU continues to not have played anyone of note, Auburn just knocked off the #1 and winner of multiple national titles.
But, as someone else noted, it won't matter, as OSU is losing this weekend. >>
Then I guess its espn who doesn't know squat because that's where I got the numbers. According to them OSU would be a 2/ 1/2 point fav over auburn, and they are a 6 point fav over mich state. FSU is a 29 point fav against Duke.
<< <i> Then I guess its espn who doesn't know squat because that's where I got the numbers. According to them OSU would be a 2/ 1/2 point fav over auburn, and they are a 6 point fav over mich state. FSU is a 29 point fav against Duke. >>
Right, because when I want betting information I'll go to ESPN /eyeroll
I sure hope not. If Alabama can't even play in their conference championship, what right do they have to play in the national championship? The eye test tells me they are probably one of the top 2 teams in the country (FSU being the other), but they had their chance to get in by winning on the field, and failed. I hated it 2 years ago when they went to title game over Big 12 champion OK St., even though they were probably the better team. IMO, they didn't earn a spot.
What will be interesting is what happens if Mich St. and Missouri win. Does Missouri leapfrog Alabama to play FSU? IMO, they should, but everyone has such a hard-on for Alabama, I could see them weaseling their way into the title game. Although, it would be the perfect way for the BCS system to go out - by screwing over a deserving Missouri team that won the championship game of the best conference in the land, a game that Alabama wasn't even good enough to play in. Just the thought of it playing out this way is making me angry.
<< <i>If either OSU or FSU lose; having the SEC Champ in the title game is about as fair as you can get. >>
All depends. If mich state and Oklahoma state both win, then they are just as deserving.
I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked.
I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football.
To muddy the waters even further, if FSU and OSU both win and end up in National Championship game and Auburn wins, then wouldn't we be looking at Iron Bowl II in the Sugar Bowl?
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I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
Not sure if you're serious or trying to be funny. Only loss was in double OT to #21 at the time South Carolina. If not for that loss, they would at worst be #2 right now. Plus they beat 4 other teams that were ranked at the time, although I wouldn't put too much credence in the Florida victory. Not to mention they destroyed every other SEC opponent they faced including a very good Vandy team.
I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football. >>
Nah its a valid question. Look at all the overhype praise the sec gets from espn. If Missouri was not in the sec they probably would not be in the top 5 for sure.
I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football. >>
Nah its a valid question. Look at all the overhype praise the sec gets from espn. If Missouri was not in the sec they probably would not be in the top 5 for sure. >>
Ignore my comment and continue with that foolishness.
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<< <i>Big ten might as well be a mid major conference now due to the lack of anything resembling competition in the entire conference. Running the table there and scheduling and beating nobody of note in non conference and you have a paper tiger in OSU. >>
Sounds like the Pac 10 during USC's latest title run
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The best from the SEC has proven over the past 7 years that they are easily the best.
Next year we go to a playoff, which will easily involve one or two SEC schools.
Even though we all know that Ohio State probably should not be in the BCS championship game this year because Auburn and Alabama would both beat them
on any given Saturday, I say just let them in the game this year if they beat Michigan State.
At least that's what fans in Tallahassee are thinking.
No need to debate any further until next Saturday night.
<< <i>This is simple...if Ohio State beats Michigan State, they are in. >>
No, its not that simple at all. There will be MANY who feel that a 1-loss Auburn OR a 1-loss Missouri has a stronger resume and body of work than Ohio State. Going 12-0 is awesome, but when another team plays a much tougher schedule and goes 11-1, there is a debate to be had. The debate will be had. Its far from "simple" as you put it. If only OSU had opened the season with a big non-conference game....
Always buying Bobby Cox inserts. PM me.
Ohio State has a good case though.
It's interesting to note that two cast offs from the very weak Big 12 have been able to quickly be so competitive in the mighty SEC.
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Baylor is not good. They piled up incredible offensive stats against horrible opponents. Even SEC fan can make fun of the oppo that Baylor played! Seriously though, their defense is horrible. Thus the fact that OK State beat Baylor is as relevant as UCLA beating USC this weekend. (yes, I know that's irrelevant and that's my point... and I just wanted to type those words).
An argument can be made for several teams. Ok State hasn't beat anybody good besides Baylor. The Big 12 was pretty bad this year. Of course they still have to beat OU this weekend so let's hold on a minute before we put them into the argument.
Hopefully Florida State, Ohio State and Auburn all lose to create total chaos!
<< <i>If only OSU had opened the season with a big non-conference game.... >>
If they did that their chance of going to the National Championship game would have been far less. By not doing that, they're now only one win away from going
after all the self-anointing of Alabama they have lost to Auburn and now all that's left for the week is another round of "I hate Ohio State" to suffer through. if everyone is so tuned in and so smart about Football and sports in general why is it that everyone has forgotten the mantra about "any given Sunday" or Saturday as the College case may be?? Alabama's -day just arrived over the weekend in a game that really wasn't much different then the game that Michigan almost won: exciting, evenly played and more scoring than anticipated, with two rivals playing in a game where everything that had happened earlier in the season really had no bearing on the outcome.
this next round should be exciting as well, even though I'm sure all the forum experts can tell us who will win, right??
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sometimes everyone forgets just how difficult it is to finish a season undefeated(just as Nick Saban, I bet he can tell you). >>
Undefeated in the SEC, yes it is tough. Undefeated in the Big10 or ACC.....not so much.
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame?
<< <i>isn't it funny how things work out??
after all the self-anointing of Alabama they have lost to Auburn and now all that's left for the week is another round of "I hate Ohio State" to suffer through. if everyone is so tuned in and so smart about Football and sports in general why is it that everyone has forgotten the mantra about "any given Sunday" or Saturday as the College case may be?? Alabama's -day just arrived over the weekend in a game that really wasn't much different then the game that Michigan almost won: exciting, evenly played and more scoring than anticipated, with two rivals playing in a game where everything that had happened earlier in the season really had no bearing on the outcome.
this next round should be exciting as well, even though I'm sure all the forum experts can tell us who will win, right??
I don't hate Ohio State but I do think Michigan State is peaking at the right time. Should be a very good game!
1. the 14 teams in the SEC are the only ones that are eligible to be ranked in the top 14 of the various polls;
2. the 14 teams in the SEC are the only ones eligible to be given spots in the top 7 post season bowl games;
3. the top 4 teams in the SEC are the only ones eligible to be given spots in the 4 team playoff that will be implemented for the 2014 seaons to determine the National Champion; and
4. all other D-1 college football teams in the country are dropped one level of competition down (or are disbanded altogether) so that SEC football is not diluted, soiled, tarnished or sullied by having to have any contact with inferior non SEC teams.
<< <i> so that SEC football is not diluted, soiled, tarnished or sullied by having to have any contact with inferior non SEC teams.
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Flawed statement. There are no inferior SEC teams.
You did not read my statement correctly.
My statement was "so that SEC football is not diluted, soiled, tarnished or sullied by having to have any contact with inferior NON SEC teams."
You missed the word NON and thus missed what I was trying to convey.
All 14 SEC football teams play football at a level that is just so much higher and better than the football played by college football teams that are not in the SEC.
SEC football (being so much better and special than non SEC football) should be separated from and kept apart from all other NON SEC college football teams. Would not want SEC teams to get "cooties" or some other socially unacceptable disease or contaminant from these other NON SEC teams.
I would not be surprised to find that many SEC football fans would agree 100% with the sentiment expressed in my recent posts to this thread (even though I type with tongue in cheek).
let's see:
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Arkansas
that's a combined 27-45.
<< <i>Flawed statement. There are no inferior SEC teams.
let's see:
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Arkansas
that's a combined 27-45. >>
Check strength of schedules please.
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<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat?
<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Auburn is overrated? A team that just knocked off the number one team in the land is somehow overrated? Good gravy the homerism is strong in this one.
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<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Auburn is overrated? A team that just knocked off the number one team in the land is somehow overrated? Good gravy the homerism is strong in this one. >>
Yep overrated. They beat both Georgia and Alabama on fluke plays.
Maybe next year OSU will grow a pair and actually schedule someone tough, until then, they are simply Cupcake U.
<< <i>Ohio State was LUCKY that Michigan went for two instead of taking the tie and the game into overtime. OSU has beaten exactly NOBODY of note, and struggled against many of their cupcake opponents. Auburn beat the number one team in the land.
Maybe next year OSU will grow a pair and actually schedule someone tough, until then, they are simply Cupcake U. >>
What did OSU do that was lucky? Hoke knew he couldn't stop OSU's offense so his chances of winning in OT were slim.
Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat?
If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite.
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Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat? >>
Alabama has played the fifth toughest schedule. FSU 42nd. Auburn has played the FOURTH toughest schedule. OSU? 52nd. You lose again, sparky.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
You, sir, are impossible. OSU has beaten NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY. They scheduled the softest of cupcakes out of conference (Buffalo ranked 75, San Diego St. ranked 76, Cal ranked 106, Florida A&M LOL). And you expect to be ranked #1?
To quote the great McEnroe "You CANNOT be serious!"
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<< <i>Flawed statement. There are no inferior SEC teams.
let's see:
Florida
Tennessee
Kentucky
Mississippi State
Mississippi
Arkansas
that's a combined 27-45. >>
Check strength of schedules please. >>
Strength of schedule doesn't really matter if you lose nearly every game, a la Arkansas.
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Really? And who have FSU and Alabama beat? >>
Alabama has played the fifth toughest schedule. FSU 42nd. Auburn has played the FOURTH toughest schedule. OSU? 52nd. You lose again, sparky.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
You, sir, are impossible. OSU has beaten NOBODY, I repeat, NOBODY. They scheduled the softest of cupcakes out of conference (Buffalo ranked 75, San Diego St. ranked 76, Cal ranked 106, Florida A&M LOL). And you expect to be ranked #1?
To quote the great McEnroe "You CANNOT be serious!" >>
Your stats are wrong. Even all the espn analysts said FSU played a weaker schedule than OSU. Look who FSU plays in their conference game oh boy Duke LOL.
<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today.
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Ohio state beat a team with a winning record. FSU beat a team with a losing record. FSU has a weaker schedule. >>
False.
SoS Ranking
41 Florida St (10-0)
60 Ohio State (10-0)
Game over for you. >>
According to sagerin
Fsu 76
Ohio state 67 >>
So even using those rankings, the schedules are 9 spots apart... not a huge gap. Look at what both teams have done with those schedules, though. Florida State starters don't play past halftime very often.
Look, Ohio State could be the better team but it's tough to compare when there's nothing really near a common opponent. My issue with your argument is that you keep acting like a 67th ranked schedule is light years beyond a 76th ranked schedule. They're both pretty mediocre/crappy. If you want to talk X's and O's about how Florida State's linebacking corps is one of the fastest and best in the nation and has a strength against spread teams, or how Ohio State's passing defense fails to contain even the most average of B1G passing offenses, then I'm all ears. If you're going to simply post SoS rankings every week I'll just keep ignoring this thread.
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<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat? >>
Beat Virginia Tech by 25. Then beat #6 Texas A&M. Shut out #21 Ole Miss. Won 3 consecutive conference games by a combined score of 145-17. Then beat #13 LSU by 3 TDs.
Baylor's toughest test for the first 2 months was Kansas State. Real powerhouse there. Finally play a real team (Ok State) and get hammered.
BTW, I have 4 kids older than 10
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<< <i>Auburn is overrated. Oklahoma state should be ranked higher then them based on they trounced Baylor. While Auburn should've lost to Georgia. >>
Another dumb statement. OSU should have lost to Kansas State and if it weren't for Northwestern, Baylor would have been the most overrated team this season. Who did they beat? Oklahoma whose biggest win was against...ummm.....errr....Notre Dame? >>
Says an ignorant 10 year old. If Baylor is overrated than Alabama is too because who have they beat? >>
Beat Virginia Tech by 25. Then beat #6 Texas A&M. Shut out #21 Ole Miss. Won 3 consecutive conference games by a combined score of 145-17. Then beat #13 LSU by 3 TDs.
Baylor's toughest test for the first 2 months was Kansas State. Real powerhouse there. Finally play a real team (Ok State) and get hammered.
BTW, I have 4 kids older than 10 >>
HAHA texas a@m shouldn't even be ranked.
Lots of things could happen. OSU could lose to mich state. Possible charges on Winston so they would be going with a 3rd string qb. We will wait and see.
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<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today. >>
OSU is a 2 1/2 point fav if they played today.
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<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today. >>
OSU is a 2 1/2 point fav if they played today. >>
Someone doesn't know thing one about college football. If they played today, based on Auburn beating Alabama, they'd be a 3 point favorite. OSU continues to not have played anyone of note, Auburn just knocked off the #1 and winner of multiple national titles.
But, as someone else noted, it won't matter, as OSU is losing this weekend.
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<< <i>If Auburn played OSU today, OSU would be the favorite. >>
I don't think so. If OSU was the favorite I'd be betting on Auburn if I were a betting man. I think Auburn would be favored by 2 or 3 as of today. >>
OSU is a 2 1/2 point fav if they played today. >>
Someone doesn't know thing one about college football. If they played today, based on Auburn beating Alabama, they'd be a 3 point favorite. OSU continues to not have played anyone of note, Auburn just knocked off the #1 and winner of multiple national titles.
But, as someone else noted, it won't matter, as OSU is losing this weekend. >>
Then I guess its espn who doesn't know squat because that's where I got the numbers. According to them OSU would be a 2/ 1/2 point fav over auburn, and they are a 6 point fav over mich state. FSU is a 29 point fav against Duke.
Iron Bowl II?
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Then I guess its espn who doesn't know squat because that's where I got the numbers. According to them OSU would be a 2/ 1/2 point fav over auburn, and they are a 6 point fav over mich state. FSU is a 29 point fav against Duke. >>
Right, because when I want betting information I'll go to ESPN /eyeroll
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I sure hope not. If Alabama can't even play in their conference championship, what right do they have to play in the national championship? The eye test tells me they are probably one of the top 2 teams in the country (FSU being the other), but they had their chance to get in by winning on the field, and failed. I hated it 2 years ago when they went to title game over Big 12 champion OK St., even though they were probably the better team. IMO, they didn't earn a spot.
What will be interesting is what happens if Mich St. and Missouri win. Does Missouri leapfrog Alabama to play FSU? IMO, they should, but everyone has such a hard-on for Alabama, I could see them weaseling their way into the title game. Although, it would be the perfect way for the BCS system to go out - by screwing over a deserving Missouri team that won the championship game of the best conference in the land, a game that Alabama wasn't even good enough to play in. Just the thought of it playing out this way is making me angry.
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<< <i>If either OSU or FSU lose; having the SEC Champ in the title game is about as fair as you can get. >>
All depends. If mich state and Oklahoma state both win, then they are just as deserving.
I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked.
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LOL Joey....Not a chance buddy.
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I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football.
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I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
Not sure if you're serious or trying to be funny. Only loss was in double OT to #21 at the time South Carolina. If not for that loss, they would at worst be #2 right now. Plus they beat 4 other teams that were ranked at the time, although I wouldn't put too much credence in the Florida victory. Not to mention they destroyed every other SEC opponent they faced including a very good Vandy team.
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I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football. >>
Nah its a valid question. Look at all the overhype praise the sec gets from espn. If Missouri was not in the sec they probably would not be in the top 5 for sure.
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I wonder if Missouri would even be ranked in the top 10 right now if they didn't have SEC right beside their name. And I bet A@M wouldn't even be ranked. >>
That is easily the dumbest comment I've read on the sports forum in 2013. You know zero about college football. >>
Nah its a valid question. Look at all the overhype praise the sec gets from espn. If Missouri was not in the sec they probably would not be in the top 5 for sure. >>
Ignore my comment and continue with that foolishness.
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<< <i>If either OSU or FSU lose; having the SEC Champ in the title game is about as fair as you can get. >>
All depends. If mich state and Oklahoma state both win, then they are just as deserving.
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One of those aint happening