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The greatest coin club show and tell ever??? --- June 11, 1909 NY Numismatic Club

illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
Was browsing through a copy of an old issue of The Numismatist from July 1909 and came across the page below. What an amazing Show & Tell they had at that meeting, a $4 Stella, branch mint proof Morgan, pattern coins and of course the two $50 gold coins which I believe are now in the Smithsonian and were the first two coins to sell for $10k. Some pretty famous coin folks at that meeting as well!

Also neat that Henri Weil who cut the new Lincoln Cent dies was at the meeting. In other issues of the Numismatist from this time, I've seen that Brenner himself was a member of the club and attended some of the meetings.

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  • sparky64sparky64 Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice and interesting. Thanks.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Wicked cool!

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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They met at Keen's? Very cool -- a NY steak house mainstay still at the same location. I wouldn't mind having a coin meeting there.

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  • Wow! Very cool!
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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can only dream about having been at the RNA meeting when John Pittman showed his 1838 Proof set. He used to bring stuff like this to regular meetings in a brown paper lunch bag.

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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,624 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wowzer coins and minutes.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>ANA politics and election of its officers for 1910 were the principal matters discussed >>



    Doesn't seem that different from CU forum discussions a century later imageimage

    Very cool find! image
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep!
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  • Sounds like a wild meeting. image
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wonder if all those coins are traceable and locations known today..... most are I would think. Cheers, RickO
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    That's a very neat looking ancient. I know very little about ancient coins, is that one a major rarity like some of the other coins brought to that meeting???

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    We need a time machine.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,317 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We need a time machine. >>

    ill agree with that, big time image
  • guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,290 ✭✭✭
    That's pretty dadgum cool.
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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭
    A lot of interest in patterns at that time.
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,710 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember that meeting very well. I was seated next to Scrooge McDuck, who had taken the express train from the west coast. His money bin had only recently been completed. He gave a short talk describing its construction. At the time it was only filled to the eight foot level.

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  • CoinspongeCoinsponge Posts: 3,927 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember that meeting very well. I was seated next to Scrooge McDuck, who had taken the express train from the west coast. His money bin had only recently been completed. He gave a short talk describing its construction. At the time it was only filled to the eight foot level.

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    You quack me up.
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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,811 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I remember that meeting very well. I was seated next to Scrooge McDuck, who had taken the express train from the west coast. His money bin had only recently been completed. He gave a short talk describing its construction. At the time it was only filled to the eight foot level.

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    Too bad he didn't pass his smarts on to "The Donald!"

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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    That's a very neat looking ancient. I know very little about ancient coins, is that one a major rarity like some of the other coins brought to that meeting??? >>


    No, I don't think so. Although I may not know anything more about ancients than you do.
    Coins of this general type seem to be generally available, and sell for $1,000-$10,000 and of course higher for the gems.
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  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 5,065 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've heard there is a local coin club where people sometimes bring decadrachms to show & tell... I was never bold enough to show up there....
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You.can just feel the walnut panelling and smell the cigar smoke.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭

    I wonder if the "Mr. Raymond" present was Wayte Raymond?

  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Haseltine must have been pissed to have his 1880 Coiled Hair Stella upstaged a not one, but two 1877 $50 patterns.
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  • << <i>You.can just feel the walnut panelling and smell the cigar smoke. >>



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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder if the "Mr. Raymond" present was Wayte Raymond? >>



    It is.

    In the June 1909 Numismatist, the NY Numismatic Club also had a report from their meeting and there is says "Wayte Raymond" and he brought a Tetradrachm of Gela in Sicily to that meeting.

    At that May 1909 meeting, E.H. Adams brought a $20 aluminium pattern from 1885, an 1879 pattern Dollar in silver and Snowden's Silver Dollar of 1885 in aluminium. S.K. Nagy brought a Gold Stella of 1880... W.H. Woodin brought an 1879 Stella in white metal... Stella's were apparently common back then image

    Also, the reports in other issues note that the club's seal at the top of the page was designed by Victor D. Brenner, but wasn't officially adopted as such until their November 1909 meeting.
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the April 1909 Numismatist:

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    most of us would have loved to have seen that. way cool image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Realone said:
    I noticed the last name of Imhoff and got to believe he is a relative of Todd Imhoff of HA.com fame, can anyone here confirm this to be true and if so that seems quite interesting.

    I was thinking the same thing>

  • CascadeChrisCascadeChris Posts: 2,529 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thaks for reviving this. Very cool Mike

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  • rainbowroosierainbowroosie Posts: 4,875 ✭✭✭✭

    Does anyone have a photo of the 1877 patterns?

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  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 27, 2016 3:23PM

    It is documented in the minutes of the Rochester Numismatic Association to the effect that B.Max Mehl displayed all 5 of the 1913 Liberty Nickels at a regular meeting. He was a regular member for about a decade. The occasion on which he displayed the 1913's was probably the only time he physically attended an RNA meeting.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is anyone here a member of the New York Numismatic Club? Sounds like it would be a fun group to spend time with.

  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:
    It is documented in the minutes of the Rochester Numismatic Association to the effect that B.Max Mehl displayed all 5 of the 1913 Liberty Nickels at a regular meeting. He was a regular member for about a decade. The occasion on which he displayed the 1913's was probably the only time he physically attended an RNA meeting.

    That's very cool. Never knew that but it's an awesome story.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,077 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know a number of sharp NY coin dealers, but those who would know about the rare coins and the history behind this club are real specialists and scholars like Roger Burdette.

  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2016 12:38AM

    Cool to see this one bumped this weekend... lots of great stuff in the old back issues of The Numismatist... all of which can be searched and viewed online now as part of your ANA membership!

    :+1:

  • garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    @BG said:
    From the April 1909 Numismatist:

    No one in shorts and gym shoes like at my club meetings. :D

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I believe that you can attend a meeting of this club only if you are the guest of a current member. When I lived in the New Jersey in the 1970s, one of the members, invited me to go with him one evening, but I had a prior engagement. I could have never become of member because getting into New York City from Morristown, New Jersey took a fair amount of effort for an evening meeting. Still it might have been interesting.

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel like I should be smoking a cigar and drinking brandy while reading that.

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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @LoveMyLiberty .... beautiful gold coins....
    Great old thread, not sure how I missed it years ago...oh yeah.... I know, at that time I was pulled out of retirement to help a company in WA state..... missed a lot of threads at that time.
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  • carabonnaircarabonnair Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    More information and a photo in this link to the E-Sylum

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,232 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:
    It is documented in the minutes of the Rochester Numismatic Association to the effect that B.Max Mehl displayed all 5 of the 1913 Liberty Nickels at a regular meeting. He was a regular member for about a decade. The occasion on which he displayed the 1913's was probably the only time he physically attended an RNA meeting.

    Wonder how he came to have them as he was never an owner:

    REGISTRY OF SPECIMENS: The five 1913 Liberty Head nickels, representing the total number believed to have been struck, were in the possession of Samuel W. Brown by 1920. In January 1924 August Wagner, a Philadelphia coin dealer, advertised the five for sale. The buyer was Stephen K. Nagy, who then sold them to Wayte Raymond, who in turn sold them to Col. E.H.R. Green, the super-collector who once owned the original 100-subject sheet of 1918 24¢ airmail stamps with the inverted Curtiss JN-4 biplane. To say that Green led a colorful life would be an understatement.2 After Green's death (June 8, 1936), his coins were appraised in 1937 by F.C.C. Boyd of New York and sold in 1942 through B.G. Johnson (St. Louis Stamp & Coin Co.) who with Henry Chapman had participated earlier in the distribution of the Virgil M. Brand estate. Eric P Newman of St. Louis purchased all five of the 1913 Liberty Head nickels in partnership with B.G. Johnson.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What was so "colorful" of Col Green?

  • ECHOESECHOES Posts: 2,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    illini420
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    I believe that you can attend a meeting of this club only if you are the guest of a current member. When I lived in the New Jersey in the 1970s, one of the members, invited me to go with him one evening, but I had a prior engagement. I could have never become of member because getting into New York City from Morristown, New Jersey took a fair amount of effort for an evening meeting. Still it might have been interesting.

    This is correct. I was invited to a meeting last year. Amazing group of people, knowledge and secrecy. There are forums members here who belong. If you do get invited, you better bring a suit along as they may not let you in without. The show and tell is still amazing. You go around and talk about the coins, not the price. Then you leave them out and people wander around looking at everything. Total trust. Great club.

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