Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar
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<< <i>Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar? >>
He does!
Erik
<< <i>Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar? >>
I own two. Is there a question about them?
<< <i> Do you think it is wrong to list a coin based on what one is only willing to part with? What do you think? >>
It's your coin so you can ask whatever you wish... At auction in any form (even an eBay "best offer") will tell you what someone else will pay for it. A special coin to own IMO and good luck to you my friend.
Erik
<< <i>I own a MS67 graded SAC Cheerios Dollar since 2004 but have been getting some flak by some ebayers by putting it up on eBay at a price I am only willing to part with and not specifically what the PCGS Price Guide shows that it is worth. With that, I don't feel that the price PCGS Price guide offers this coin any justice in value based upon previous failing sales. Do you think it is wrong to list a coin based on what one is only willing to part with? What do you think? >>
To me, there is actually a difference between doing what you mention (pricing at what one is willing to part with an item for) versus pricing high just trolling for the uniformed, or suckers.
End result (price) may be the same, but the intent is totally different.
In your example, I don't have a problem with it.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>Do you think the Cheerios Sac is undervalued? They are very difficult to find and I normally see a handful during a years time. I've seen two ungraded sell in the past few months. One of those sold for $300 buried in a bad titled auction with a primary photo of something completely different. >>
For a few hundred, I would buy one, just for the neato factor.
However, I cannot answer if they are undervalued or not as they are not my focus and, aside from some limited fun with new mint products, I am not a flipper. So, I haven't looked at these from the long term (collector) perspective nor that of the short term (flipper).
MWallace would definitely have a better eye on these than I. CaptHenway and Braddick probably as well.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>Do you think the Cheerios Sac is undervalued? They are very difficult to find and I normally see a handful during a years time. I've seen two ungraded sell in the past few months. One of those sold for $300 buried in a bad titled auction with a primary photo of something completely different. >>
Undervalued?
For its current popularity, no.
However, it is just popular in that lots of folks "believe" that they could find one and after searching, searching, and searching, through the many Year 2000 Sac's out there, their desire justifies the purchase price.
There are many "rare" coins out in the wild which do not enjoy the same "popularity" as some other modern coins so the real question is: How Rare are they based upon the typical asking price?
With possibly 5,000+ in existence, its difficult to say within this lifetime. But, folks are certainly welcome to ask any price they wish.
It's too bad that there are not some US Mint statistics available for how many of this particular reverse were actually produced.............
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar? >>
He does!
Erik >>
He did, Sold today for $8,000.
Should this or some other bill ever accomplish getting the brass bucks circulating, then the early variety might prove very popular.
TD
<< <i>There is yet another bill before Congress to stop printing dollar bills to force people to use dollar coins. Curiously, this one calls for the withdrawal of the Anthony dollars. Who knows, it might work.
Should this or some other bill ever accomplish getting the brass bucks circulating, then the early variety might prove very popular.
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I don't see any change is still possible in this country. We still make billions of pennies every
year even a quarter century after they lost all of their value. Like lemmings we'll all march to
the cliffs in lockstep because change is a fearful thing.
Considering the effects of updating our obsolete coin and currency system is fun though. It
would be great for coins and coin collecting and especially for the cheerios dollar.
Whatever these numbers were are clearly too high if they did not sell at the asked for price points.
JMHO as always.
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<< <i>Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar? >>
He does!
Erik >>
He did, Sold today for $8,000. >>
I'm curious as to what he paid for the coin which "walked into his shop."?
The name is LEE!
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<< <i>Who has a Cheerios Sac Pattern Dollar? >>
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He did, Sold today for $8,000. >>
I'm curious as to what he paid for the coin which "walked into his shop."? >>
My understanding is that he was working on commission for the customer.
The customer had called a dealer about its value and he said to just spend it. This happens all the
time with scarce and rare moderns. Rolls of '83-P quarters just get taken to the bank or used to do
laundry and pay tolls. I even have gotten older valuable coins in change from dealers like 1939 DDR
nickels. They miss a lot of moderns. My favorite though not especially valuable was a nice chUnc
non-mint set 1969 quarter. These are quite scarce and I've not seen an original roll since about 1970.
I asked if he had more and he came up with just shy of 4 rolls that he had put in the register. The
finest several coins are easily Gems which is extremely surprising since most circulation issues of this
date are MS-60 and rarely better. None were worse than MS-63. It was a pretty good haul for $40.
If he had just looked at the bid sheet he'd have seen a roll of these was worth $60 even way back
at that time. But dealers hear modern and they assume it's common.
<< <i>I look for these in change, at yard sales and in antique shops...still no luck.... Cheers, RickO >>
Me, too. I keep looking but no luck yet.
One graded MS68 by PCGS in a Secure holder sits in my registry set. I also purchased one a number of years ago still in the original General Mills packing - with the obverse die marker. I have no intension of sending it in for grading. To me, it is worth more in original packaging as more and more are submitted for grading and it becomes harder and harder to find still packaged.
I also have a roll of 5 Cheerios pennies that are still in original packaging and were never cut apart from one another - all 5 are still connected to one another.
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Captain ....Fireman....any expert on these? ETF attribution - obverse die marker - is this The One?
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Captain ....Fireman....any expert on these? ETF attribution - obverse die marker - is this The One? >>
That does not appear to be the right die with markers. Try shooting it again with the coin turned about 45 degrees clockwise relative to this photo.
Also, please take a closer view of the date. I am curious about the grainy texture of the date.
TD
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I also have a roll of 5 Cheerios pennies that are still in original packaging and were never cut apart from one another - all 5 are still connected to one another. >>
Huh!
I presume they are end to end like they came off of a roll?
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I also have a roll of 5 Cheerios pennies that are still in original packaging and were never cut apart from one another - all 5 are still connected to one another. >>
Huh!
I presume they are end to end like they came off of a roll? >>
Clad
That is correct - they are uncut end to end. It was originally 6 pennies end to end but I removed one after I received my Cheerios Dollar to do an extremely close exam and comparison between a know original packaging and the packaging of the Cheerios Dollar I bought. Initially, I was a little skeptical of my Cheerios Dollar purchase but after my exam, everything was legit. I have never been able to figure out how to post photos on this forum or I would post some pix of the pennies - they are pretty neat.
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<< <i>I'm sure oddball mint items of the same time have been scoured for these by collectors, first day covers etc, right? I've got some covers and even a rare bolo tie issued by the mint 2000. What are the odds one or more pop up in something like that? >>
Coup
The odds are VERY low but I would say not entirely impossible.
I can tell you story after story of Sacagawea dollars I have acquired over the years that have shown up in the oddest places. Philadelphia VIP issues being given away by the Mint at a Credit Union Convention, No date satin finish coins found sealed in Mint Sets come to mind right off the batText
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Captain ....Fireman....any expert on these? ETF attribution - obverse die marker - is this The One? >>
The shelf atop that cloak, runs out to the rim, nearly… in this example.
This is how the 2000 P specimens normally appear.
one more try...so far the consensus seems to be that it's not the etf version. I thought the spike jutting out and angling out to the right under the P was the only indicator.
TD
Close up photos are a little grainy but it appears to have the die marker for ETF.
I have only ever seen one other in OGP for sale. These are definitely getting harder to find.
Seller posted a offer he received as a question from a very wishful thinker for $50. Add some zeros bud - nice try!!
It will be interesting to see where this ends
Link to Cheerios Sac Listing
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<< <i>There is a Cheerios Sacagawea in original General Mill/US Mint packaging listed on Ebay as a NR auction. Bidding has already started off fast and furious. At present there are 15 bids and it is up to $1099.99
Close up photos are a little grainy but it appears to have the die marker for ETF.
I have only ever seen one other in OGP for sale. These are definitely getting harder to find.
Seller posted a offer he received as a question from a very wishful thinker for $50. Add some zeros bud - nice try!!
It will be interesting to see where this ends
Link to Cheerios Sac Listing >>
I am suspicious. The seller is aware of the variety and yet has no pics of the reverse. What's more makes a statement that he does not guarantee it is the special variety and has a no return policy. Is there a premium for Cheerios Sacs with the standard design? I would think not much.
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<< <i>There is a Cheerios Sacagawea in original General Mill/US Mint packaging listed on Ebay as a NR auction. Bidding has already started off fast and furious. At present there are 15 bids and it is up to $1099.99
Close up photos are a little grainy but it appears to have the die marker for ETF.
I have only ever seen one other in OGP for sale. These are definitely getting harder to find.
Seller posted a offer he received as a question from a very wishful thinker for $50. Add some zeros bud - nice try!!
It will be interesting to see where this ends
Link to Cheerios Sac Listing >>
I am suspicious. The seller is aware of the variety and yet has no pics of the reverse. What's more makes a statement that he does not guarantee it is the special variety and has a no return policy. Is there a premium for Cheerios Sacs with the standard design? I would think not much. >>
The coin being offered is sealed in the original holder, which does not allow you to see the reverse. Some people want to have one in the original holder. I own one in the original holder, plus another one in a slab so I can see the back.
That said, I cannot tell if the piece currently on eBay has the proper obverse die marker or not.
TD
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i had to get a little tricky to find the link to the ms68 that was supposed to be linked on that page below the other image as stated although i'm sure others have the image already.
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i had to get a little tricky to find the link to the ms68 that was supposed to be linked on that page below the other image as stated although i'm sure others have the image already.
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MAN WAS THAT A LUCKY FIND!!!
Every once in a blue moon you find a listing like that.
I found one like that a number of years ago for a VIP Sacagawea. Really bad close up photo of the coin and no description of what it was in the title or listing. I noticed the COA in one of the pictures.
That's what makes collecting exciting
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<< <i>There is a Cheerios Sacagawea in original General Mill/US Mint packaging listed on Ebay as a NR auction. Bidding has already started off fast and furious. At present there are 15 bids and it is up to $1099.99
Close up photos are a little grainy but it appears to have the die marker for ETF.
I have only ever seen one other in OGP for sale. These are definitely getting harder to find.
Seller posted a offer he received as a question from a very wishful thinker for $50. Add some zeros bud - nice try!!
It will be interesting to see where this ends
Link to Cheerios Sac Listing >>
CONRATS to the High Bidder>>>>>>>>>> Coin went for $7,600 - In my opinion that is a bargain. I hope the winning bidder finds the obverse die marker and decides to keep it in the original US Mint/General Mills packaging
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<< <i>Funny how as they perfect uniformity with die production the bar for what constitutes a variety is lowered. I have had these side by side with normal ones and the difference is subtle. That said the fan fare and story about how these came about is really cool. >>
The difference between which side? The difference between a "regular" reverse and a Pattern reverse are rather dramatic IMHO. If you are referring to the difference in the obverse between a "regular" coin and a Cheerios coin with the die marker - than I agree it is very subtle
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slabbed or left in the original packaging. We may never know