NE Shilling PCGS AU55 Ex: Ford, Brand

rays

Lot 4001

Currently bid to $6! Hurry. These are really neat. Described in the 1950's by Walter Breen as follows:

<< <i>"V. Fine or better, and, for the coin, Choice. Ex Carl Wurtzbach, 1938, at $167.50; illustrated in his published portfolio of plates of Mass. AR coinage as No.3 (henceforward written W-3). Before Wurtzbach it is traced through Virgil Brand, DeWitt Smith, Newcomer, and Sterling P. Groves Coll. (S.H. Chapman, 1912) No. 276. It is illustrated in the Groves catalogue & Noe book as well as in Wurtzbach." >>

STONE

Well, I thought it was worth $101, but I guess someone else thinks it's more valuable


Very cool and historical piece!

rays

These have been bringing a lot lately.

Weiss

That is a dream coin. And having a pedigree going back 3/4 of a century would make me feel really good about it in light of our Chinese friends.

illini420

Was cool to see it at lot viewing this week. Nice multi-page write up in the catalog too.

ricko

Neat coin... and certified makes it very attractive...Cheers, RickO

johnny9434

that would be way nice to have in my collection. cool piece.

ambro51

...no doubt many are still underground... Waiting.

rays

<< <i>These have been bringing a lot lately. >>



This one brought $440,625.

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Zoins

Very cool coin with a link to our history in the US.

I'm surprised the description doesn't say it was struck by John Hull and Robert Sanderson but perhaps everyone knows this already?

Here's some information on Hull and Sanderson's minting efforts:



<< <i>As early as 1650, the colony of Massachusetts Bay was a commercial success. But an inadequate supply of money put its future development in jeopardy. England was not inclined to send gold and silver coins to the colonies, for they were in short supply in the mother country.

Taking matters into their own hands, Boston authorities allowed two settlers, John Hull and Robert Sanderson, to set up a mint in the capital in 1652. The two were soon striking silver coinage - shillings, sixpences, and threepences. Nearly all of the new coins bore the same date: 1652. >>



Here's some information on John Hull:



<< <i>John Hull (18 December 1624 – 1 October 1683) was the leading merchant and mintmaster of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. He married Judith Quincy (1626–1695), daughter of Judith Pares (d. 1654) and Edmund Quincy (1602-1636), progenitors of the prestigious Quincy family. Among his apprentices was Jeremiah Dummer who became the first American-born silversmith. In January 1658 he and several other men made a large land acquisition in Rhode Island known as the "Pettaquamscutt Purchase." >>



And some other things you can collect from Hull and Sanderson:

Greeniejr

We are proud to say we were able to facilitate a new custodian for this incredible piece of history as well as several other of the rarities from the Sundman collection.

Raufus

I want to own one of these SO bad. Only 1 Lotto ticket away...

The catalog is fantastic.

Sunshine Rare Coins

<< <i>We are proud to say we were able to facilitate a new custodian for this incredible piece of history as well as several other of the rarities from the Sundman collection. >>



congrats!! - great coin!!

BillJones

It looks to be a bit overgraded, but for something like this, the grade is secondary.

291fifth

<< <i>It looks to be a bit overgraded, but for something like this, the grade is secondary. >>



More than "a bit" but, as you say, grade is secondary on a coin like this.

rays

Just how one would grade one of these is mystifying. Seems like a VF is very close to an "AU".

rays

An AG3 example would suit me just fine, though.

pmac

Tough to tell the difference.

Analyst

Zoins: <<Very cool coin with a link to our history in the US>>

I discuss the history of these in my current article. The connection between NE Shillings and the English Civil War is important.

Zoins: <<I'm surprised the description doesn't say it was struck by John Hull and Robert Sanderson but perhaps everyone knows this already?>>

It would be difficult to explain the roles of Hull and Sanderson in a description for an auction lot. I suggest acquiring a copy of Chris Samson's book, which is a bit more sophisticated than most other discussions of circumstances of the striking of MA Silver. For background about Hull, I also recommend Louis Jordan's work, some of which has been published on the website of the University of Notre Dame.

Hull and Sanderson were very well known silversmiths before Hull got the contract to mint coins in colonial Massachusetts. Hull had a variety of business interests and was involved in politics. Sanderson was probably the chief operating officer of the mint.

Rays: <<This one brought $440,625.>>

As I make clear in a roster in my current article, this result remains the auction recod for an NE Shilling. The Newman NE Sixpence, though, brought considerably more.

The First Coins Struck in The Original Thirteen Colonies: Massachusetts (‘NE’) Silver of 1652