2013 World Series -- what say you?
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Methinks this is going to be a hell of a series. I've thought about it and thought about it, and I just can't foresee a scenario of less than six games. I predict a split in Boston, STL taking two of three back home, and I honestly don't have much of a lean from G6 on. Just the way I like it.
I think the X factor could quite possibly be the return of Allen Craig. By all accounts he's going to DH and pinch hit, and if his bat remotely resembles his pre-injury production, he could very well prove to be the added offensive spark to augment four potential starts from Wainwright & Wacca.
But man, there's just something to be said about the intestinal fortitude of the Sox. When they were down five runs in G2 with Scherzer dealing, I told my girlfriend the series was over. Then they proceeded to get off the deck, punch Detroit in the mouth and completely flip the series.
From the lineups to starting pitching to the bullpens, any discernible advantage is slight, in my opinion. With that said, I reluctantly say the Cards in 7.
I think the X factor could quite possibly be the return of Allen Craig. By all accounts he's going to DH and pinch hit, and if his bat remotely resembles his pre-injury production, he could very well prove to be the added offensive spark to augment four potential starts from Wainwright & Wacca.
But man, there's just something to be said about the intestinal fortitude of the Sox. When they were down five runs in G2 with Scherzer dealing, I told my girlfriend the series was over. Then they proceeded to get off the deck, punch Detroit in the mouth and completely flip the series.
From the lineups to starting pitching to the bullpens, any discernible advantage is slight, in my opinion. With that said, I reluctantly say the Cards in 7.
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Craig coming back scares me a little, though. He is a beast.
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There's definitely some "magic in the air" for the Sox having gone from a disastrous last place in 2012 to the WS in 2013.
Gonna be good stuff!!!
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Coming froman Astros fan I'm not surprised.
Sox in 6, hoping for a Boston sweep though.
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With the TV volume turned all the way down, I listen to the feed through XM Radio. Mccarver is absolutely horrible!!!!
I enjoy all baseball announcers around the country but can not take these two.
I tried again this series but nothing has changed and gotten worse in fact.
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Looking forward to see how it plays out.
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Is there anyone out there, that hates Fox miking up players for interviews during the live play. Just outrageous to take away from live play in the playoffs and World Series to hear from players chatter! I hit the. Mute button the moment Buck starts the interview!
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<< <i>Looks like the umpiring crew has money on the Cardinals. >>
I am sure that is why they reversed a call at second in game one....which you never see, but it was the right call. Boston should have loaded the bases and created a force play at home so the catcher does not have to tag the runner at home, then the throw to third is easy to make.....plus do not throw the ball to left field in addition to the obstruction call at third. I am sure people in Boston do not like it, but Boston made it harder on themselves than it needed to be.....
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After watching the play several times... "IN THE ACT OF FIELDING THE BALL" "It is entirely up to the judgment of the umpire as to whether the fielder is in the act of fielding the ball. This is found in rule 2.0
Additionally, the comment to Rule 7.09(j), adds that "obstruction by a fielder attempting to field a ball should be called only in VERY FLAGRANT AND VIOLENT cases because the rules give him the right of way, but of course such "right of way" is not a license to, for example, intentionally trip the runner even though fielding the ball".
Given the magnitude of the importance of the game, I think it was a stretch to call obstruction. Middlebrooks was clearly in the "act" of fielding the ball as he was stretching to catch the bad throw from Saltalamacchia. His contact was not flagrant or violent. Isn't getting off the ground a part of completing the act of fielding the ball? Or is he supposed to lay on the ground? Judgment of the umpire...really?
Sad to see that an umpire's opinion ended that game.
It would appear that I am biased being a lifelong Red Sox fan, but had the situation been reversed, I would have felt the Cards got screwed as well.
The UBER BONEHEAD move was not allowing Napoli to bat !!!! Why would you not make the double switch and bring your slugger into the game instead of surrendering a precious out???? What could Farrell have been thinking??
Tough loss !!
<< <i>What is up with the HP umpire? If it was an option - he would be sent back to the minors after this game. Balls are strikes, strikes are balls - WOW - this'll be his last post season. >>
yup. Demuth was pitiful behind the plate. lest we forget he was also the only guy in Fenway who thought Kozma caught the ball.
as for that dude who mentioned Allen Craig playing a key role in this series, nice call. though we may have seen the last of him.
I had a pretty good vantage point on that throw, and I personally think Saltalamacchia should have swallowed it. It appeared to be ill-advised, but perhaps someone who saw multiple slo-mos can shed some light on that. As for the obstruction call itself, from everything that I've absorbed in the past 9-10 hours, Middlebrooks' rights were endless -- until the ball went by him. Once that happened, the act of fielding the ball ceased and he was essentially in no man's land.
Great game. Insane game. Felt like the Cards should have put it away many times over, but as the game wore on it sure seemed like Boston was destined to win. With Wainwright looming in G5 at home and Wacha in G6, it goes without saying that today's game is a must for the Sox.
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After watching the play several times... "IN THE ACT OF FIELDING THE BALL" "It is entirely up to the judgment of the umpire as to whether the fielder is in the act of fielding the ball. This is found in rule 2.0
Additionally, the comment to Rule 7.09(j), adds that "obstruction by a fielder attempting to field a ball should be called only in VERY FLAGRANT AND VIOLENT cases because the rules give him the right of way, but of course such "right of way" is not a license to, for example, intentionally trip the runner even though fielding the ball".
Given the magnitude of the importance of the game, I think it was a stretch to call obstruction. Middlebrooks was clearly in the "act" of fielding the ball as he was stretching to catch the bad throw from Saltalamacchia. His contact was not flagrant or violent. Isn't getting off the ground a part of completing the act of fielding the ball? Or is he supposed to lay on the ground? Judgment of the umpire...really?
Sad to see that an umpire's opinion ended that game.
It would appear that I am biased being a lifelong Red Sox fan, but had the situation been reversed, I would have felt the Cards got screwed as well.
The UBER BONEHEAD move was not allowing Napoli to bat !!!! Why would you not make the double switch and bring your slugger into the game instead of surrendering a precious out???? What could Farrell have been thinking??
Tough loss !! >>
Once the ball got by the thirdbaseman the Red Sox were screwed since the act of fielding was no longer in play............
Rule 2.00 (Obstruction) Comment: If a fielder is about to receive a thrown ball and if the ball is in flight directly toward and near enough to the fielder so he must occupy his position to receive the ball he may be considered “in the act of fielding a ball.” It is entirely up to the judgment of the umpire as to whether a fielder is in the act of fielding a ball. After a fielder has made an attempt to field a ball and missed, he can no longer be in the “act of fielding” the ball. For example: If an infielder dives at a ground ball and the ball passes him and he continues to lie on the ground and delays the progress of the runner, he very likely has obstructed the runner.
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The comments about "wussification" are just silly; this rule has been in place for decades... it's just that the last time a game ended this way was a regular season game back in the 70s so most people had no frame of reference.
That said, although this play will be the one all the wailing is about, ultimately this play shouldn't have been the one that decided the game. Both teams squandered scoring opportunities earlier (most notably the Cards stranding the bases loaded...AGAIN), and I'm still scratching my head as to why Boston had their pitcher batting (for the first time, ever!) with a solid hitter in Napoli sitting on the bench. Bad managing there IMO.
I'm hopeful that we have a good competitive game tonight and that a Little League game doesn't break out at some point- like it has in each of the last 3 games.
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I agree. The umpires made the right call. Why did Middlebrooks raise his legs up like that? That's not how a person gets up off the ground or gets out of the way. You would push yourself up with your arms. I believe Middlebrooks actions were intentional.
However, from the sound of it, this wasn't even the biggest problem in the game.
I am not saying that Middlebrooks lifted his legs in order to trip Craig on purpose, however, I do think that Rich Eisen's tweet about it was pretty funny. Here is the tweet -
"Everyone get down on floor on your stomach. Then get up. Was your first move to kick up your heels? Thought not."
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<< <i>I am an obvious Cardinals fan. I also think that the right call was made (shocking, I know).
I am not saying that Middlebrooks lifted his legs in order to trip Craig on purpose, however, I do think that Rich Eisen's tweet about it was pretty funny. Here is the tweet -
"Everyone get down on floor on your stomach. Then get up. Was your first move to kick up your heels? Thought not." >>
Middlebrook must do girl pushups, that was the explanation I heard!
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Reminisence of the 2006 NLCS when Beltran left his bat on his shoulder (on a called strike 3 from Wainwright)....
Beltran's bat on his shoulder as the game ends tonight!
Wow.
<< <i>Deja vu...
Reminisence of the 2006 NLCS when Beltran left his bat on his shoulder (on a called strike 3 from Wainwright)....
Beltran's bat on his shoulder as the game ends tonight!
Wow. >>
Now this is a stretch.
<< <i>The umps got the call 100% right. It's written right into the rule. Plus, though intent doesn't matter, I am convinced Middlebrooks tripped Craig on purpose. You can see him stick his legs right up into Craig's path. Gutsy call and to not make it would have been a shame. >>
If the rule states a fielder becomes an obstacle *immediately* after missing a play, regardless of circumstances, then so be it. I could be mistaken but don't believe the rules specifically address this situation and in the end, it was a judgement call. This is the best angle I've seen and IMO, it appears that the 3rd base ump didn't even see the play and Craig was running out of the baseline.
With the series being tied up again, it's a moot point. However, if there isn't a rule that specifically addresses this circumstance, MLB should discuss it during the off-season.
* edited because I accidentally quoted the wrong person
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