Off Center coins.

keets

Where do all the off-center issues come from?? They clearly can't come from rolls and since the different services rolling/counting coins from the Mint use machinery to do that I'm assuming that is where they originate. Is that the answer??

Al H.

lostincoins

I got one of mine in a sealed waxed sewn shut mint bag.

mrearlygold

One of my favorites

keets

nice Dollar, but I'm wondering more about Modern coinage. that Dollar might have been issued as it is.

lostincoins

oh i like the dollar.

drkilmer

I used to run coin rolling machines for a company in Dallas. Off center coins would cause the rolls to explode all over the place when the machine tried to wrap them. I'd have to stop and clean up coins before starting the machine back up again. It also screened coins for size ... undersized coins would drop out into a holding area. Those would be clips and blank planchets usually.

CuKevin

This is an excellent question. I always wondered how modern coins could get into circulation with all of the machinery they go through these days. Even once they get out of the mint.

SullivanNumismatics

<< <i>Where do all the off-center issues come from?? They clearly can't come from rolls and since the different services rolling/counting coins from the Mint use machinery to do that I'm assuming that is where they originate. Is that the answer??

Al H. >>

They come out of mint sewn bags or from the bags of coins which are rolled up at the counting houses (as you said, they get caught in the wrapping machines, which is also why a huge percentage of errors have counting machine damage of some sort.) Also, a small percentage can actually fit inside a roll. A coin which is 5% off-center will sometimes have virtually the same diameter as a normally coin (but as a while, very few come out this way.)

Shamika

<< <i>I used to run coin rolling machines for a company in Dallas. Off center coins would cause the rolls to explode all over the place when the machine tried to wrap them. I'd have to stop and clean up coins before starting the machine back up again. It also screened coins for size ... undersized coins would drop out into a holding area. Those would be clips and blank planchets usually. >>



Were you able to keep any of these?

CaptHenway

Oh, Freddie!!!!!!!!!!!

Staircoins

Not all coins end up in rolls...

MedalCollector

Actually, most of the coins that are put into those ballistic bags end up in rolls.
I know that the mint was selling these ballistic bags to the public for a while, but I don't know if they still are. I actually bought an empty ballistic bag from someone who had purchased one. It turned out to be much bigger and much more rigid than I thought it would be, so it didn't fit the purpose I wanted it for.

ricko

Ballistic??? Those bags could resist damage by projectile weapons??? Or were used for projectile storage?? I do not understand what a ballistic bag would be - especially if used for coins....Cheers, RickO

keets

RickO, it's just a generic trade name given to the container. when I worked in the Plastic Industry we used something similar which was a woven fiberglass bag that typically held 2000 lbs. of pellets. they are very, very strong and resistant to tears and punctures. the ones we used had a bottom flap that was tied and could be opened to remove the product; I assume these are the same and that's how the coins are dumped into the counting hoppers/machines. also, I have always understood that these types of bags are how the Mint ships bulk to the counting services.

AUandAG

<< <i>Ballistic??? Those bags could resist damage by projectile weapons??? Or were used for projectile storage?? I do not understand what a ballistic bag would be - especially if used for coins....Cheers, RickO >>



Uhhhhhhmmmmm, when they are full of coins they ARE bullet proof, thus ballistic?

bob

lkeigwin

Not exactly modern but a fun old one.
Lance.

lkeigwin

The Chinese think they are kinda cool too.
Lance.

stealer

<< <i>One of my favorites



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So where do they draw the line between one that had the typical severely MAD and an off-center one?

Treashunt

Lance

Excellent pieces, and darn those Chinese!

BillJones

The off-center coins, some blank planchets and coin fragments come in bags. Before the mint got into to selling rolls of coins for profit, rolls were strictly an outside the mint thing. Private companies and bags did the rolling. The mint shipped coins in bags, and in the early days, wooden kegs.

Staircoins

I found a quarter in change the other day that was struck 100% off center. Here's a pic ...


And the reverse ...

Broadstruck

Member/dealer FredWeinberg found this one in a sealed bag of 1898 Morgan's in the early 1980's

baddogss

I know what you mean OP. I've wondered about that too.
Like when the coin is so out of round or size it couldn't fit in a wrapper.

Also, I was thinking along the lines of off-center multiple-strike coins.
When more than one planchet is struck and you end up with a blob of metal.

Good question.