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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    Due to the limited availability of unopened material from 60s, 70s and 80s. They will only be dealing in material 2001 and after?? image
  • One of the biggest vintage wax box collectors has decided to unload his collection to Steve.
    It is going to cost Steve north of 5 million dollars to bring the product to market.
    He will be letting all his customers know about the protocol for getting first dibs on it.

  • My vote is for pack and box authentication. So as not to compete with PSA there will be no grading just sealed in a BBCE clamshell/hologram and labeled as authentic.

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  • Looks like It's time for me to get my own moving truck, a road atlas of the U.S., and a Taco Bell rewards card and hit the road...
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭


    << <i>One of the biggest vintage wax box collectors has decided to unload his collection to Steve.
    It is going to cost Steve north of 5 million dollars to bring the product to market.
    He will be letting all his customers know about the protocol for getting first dibs on it. >>



    Same guess for me but the collection is fritsch's

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • mikliamiklia Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭
    text says 'decision', not 'purchase'. also, i'm not really sure how a retail store adds value to steve's business. either way, it will be fun to see what the deal is.

    +1 on your reply, reed. steve would be proud.
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭
    He traded all of the unopened for a minority share of the Yankees.

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  • Fresh cases of 1987 Topps hitting the shelves?
  • MinorLeaguerMinorLeaguer Posts: 513 ✭✭✭
    Luke: Well, more unopened material than you can imagine!

    Han Solo: I don't know, I can imagine quite a bit.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>text says 'decision', not 'purchase'. >>


    I would consider it BOTH a major decision AND a major purchase if he decided to buy out all of Fritsch's product.
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  • I heard he just bought a hoard of 80s My Little Pony boxes & will be setting up at BronyCon next year
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  • mikliamiklia Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>text says 'decision', not 'purchase'. >>


    I would consider it BOTH a major decision AND a major purchase if he decided to buy out all of Fritsch's product. >>



    absolutely true, i just think it would be worded differently if that were the case.

    Due to popular demand, BBCE is installing several humidifiers in the warehouse to get that 'Kruk magic' into all the product.
  • CakesCakes Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am not sure but what a great PR move, it has caused quite a bit of discussion already.
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  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭
    my guess: Steve is going to start doing auctions.
  • mknezmknez Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I am not sure but what a great PR move, it has caused quite a bit of discussion already. >>



    And generated a few good ideas for them to consider.

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  • jeffcbayjeffcbay Posts: 8,950 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe a second location?
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
    It has to be they are moving to a bigger place. They showed pictures of product still on the trucks because of no room.
  • jmaciujmaciu Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭
    I will say that they are branching out from there main office -- maybe an east and/or west coast branch.
  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>I am not sure but what a great PR move, it has caused quite a bit of discussion already. >>



    And generated a few good ideas for them to consider. >>



    + 1

    Obviously, this is all speculation. I wouldn't be surprised if someone made an offer on his inventory that he couldn't say no to and became a consultant. On the other hand, I also wouldn't be surprised if he expanded and opened a retail store.

    One thing is for sure, I'm absolutely positive a lot of thought and consideration went into it. Whatever it is, wishing Steve continued success.
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  • alnavmanalnavman Posts: 4,129 ✭✭✭
    He's bought the Cubs and plans to take them back to the world series.....
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭
    I think the fact they used the date they opened and use of the word DECISION indicates something that might not be considered positive news. I think if it was growth related, they would have used more positive sounding tone. I'd expect it to be something about a significant change to the business model or company role.
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  • dtkk49adtkk49a Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭
    My guess is either a merger or sale.
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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Everything that anyone has ever bought has really been tampered with.
    But in all seriousness, a new location opening...maybe west coast.

  • aconteaconte Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭


    << <i>BBCE will begin a service authenticating product for their customers?? Those boxes that have been in your closet for the past 35 years that does not have a BBCE logo will now be reviewed by them and stamped with his wrap????

    Just a guess >>



    Great guess.

    I'll go with this one!

    aconte
  • jboxjbox Posts: 408 ✭✭


    << <i>I think the fact they used the date they opened and use of the word DECISION indicates something that might not be considered positive news. I think if it was growth related, they would have used more positive sounding tone. I'd expect it to be something about a significant change to the business model or company role. >>



    I agree with this. A new location, new service, etc. would likely have just been an ANNOUNCEMENT without the word DECISION.

    jbox
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    I have the inside word:
    They have decided they will not be participating in any more group rips on the forum due to what a tremendous pain in the arse it is...
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  • MiniDuffMiniDuff Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭
    A decision could easily mean a change.

    For example, a decision could mean he has decided to take on a more active role in combatting resealers by offering an authentication service (not a numerical grade per se, just an opinion on authenticity).

    We all pay a premium for bbce shrinkwrap, most of us happily. In that business model, Steve has to own and lay out for the inventory and hunt to all corners of the globe for it. In the second model, he has no acquisition cost or headache, yet he still profits from the bbce seal.
    Just a thought, but one that could easily coexist with his current model. He would also likely see a lot of previously hidden inventory come out of the woodwork, even it if only goes back into hiding once sealed.

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  • ...which he would have first crack at and therefore an opportunity to aquire more rare inventory. Unlikely though...
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  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "On October 1st 1990, Baseball Card Exchange officially opened its doors. Today, October 1st 2013, 23 years later, we have made a major decision. We'll be making an announcement in the next few days."

    Technically, it would be 23 years and one day later, but I digress.

    Steve has made major purchases before and never given a recital of the history of the company, so I think this has to do with the status of the company. What can you do with a company? You can sell it, you can merge it, you can divest parts of it, you can "go public", you can raise capital for it (other than going public), or you can acquire another company.

    Perhaps Steve is going to do a Private Placement to raise funds for expansion, acquisition, etc. and is looking to big fish customers as potential investors? But that doesn't explain the recital of the company's history.

    IMO, Steve will be selling the company to PSA, who is planning to open up an internet retail operation under an independent entity. PSA is also negotiating to acquire Fritsch cards' inventory, and will then compete against Blowout Cards, DACardworld, etc. PSA will attempt to take advantage of perceived synergies in the marketplace.

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  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    There is no way he is opening up a second location. Very stupid on his part and Steve is not stupid. He can manage this just fine at one location.
    There is no way he is working for someone else.
    There is no way he is selling his successful business.
    I doubt he is announcing to the world that the major decision is buying a huge collection from his customer. He buys huge collections all the time - that's what he does.

    Shane

    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases


  • << <i>Fresh cases of 1987 Topps hitting the shelves? >>



    I'm not interested, I only want a fresh case of 1988 Donruss.
  • CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    My guess is that Steve is reading all the responses and getting a good chuckle.
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭


    << <i>IMO, Steve will be selling the company to PSA, who is planning to open up an internet retail operation under an independent entity. PSA is also negotiating to acquire Fritsch cards' inventory, and will then compete against Blowout Cards, DACardworld, etc. PSA will attempt to take advantage of perceived synergies in the marketplace. >>



    I feel like this would be a major conflict of interest.
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  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My guess is that Steve is reading all the responses and getting a good chuckle. >>



    Unbelievable that we agree on something. The pied paper is playing his flute and MOST eyes are on his every move!
  • A San Diego branch would be heaven. But my vote is another store as he is relating it to the time they first opened their doors 23 years ago.

  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>Steve has come up with a way to make your cheap cards items more valuable. >>


    I heard about those Mantle inserts in OPC Hockey but never saw one before!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • VitoCo1972VitoCo1972 Posts: 6,130 ✭✭✭


    << <i>my guess: Steve is going to start doing auctions. >>



    I like this guess a lot.
  • Steve is going to sell his inventory to BBG, and stay on as a consultant.

    Look for vintage wrapper/gum/box combo packs to hit the shelves this fall!
  • RonBurgundyRonBurgundy Posts: 5,491 ✭✭✭
    Shane is correct on all points. That said, maybe he held back one of the 1971 Football Series 2 wax boxes that he had recently & is going to offer it for a group rip.

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  • My guess is a merger with another large hobby shop like DA cards or 4sharpcorners.
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  • Webb63Webb63 Posts: 131 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Shane is correct on all points. That said, maybe he held back one of the 1971 Football Series 2 wax boxes that he had recently & is going to offer it for a group rip. >>



    Say that again....he had WHAT in his inventory recently???
  • Maybe he was somehow able to lure Wes Spece away from Probstein
  • KbKardsKbKards Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭
    Or Dean from Dean's Cards and put him in charge of pricing.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭
    This is a good mystery Steve has going. Props to Steve for the pub. Here from the BBC facebook page:

    Amy Hart I would love to spill the beans for everyone, but I suppose I'll let my brother share the news.
  • AlbertdiditAlbertdidit Posts: 560 ✭✭✭
    Maybe the big news is he purchased Weston's Dugout
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>my guess: Steve is going to start doing auctions. >>



    I like this guess a lot. >>



    Makes the most sense to me-inventory flies off the shelf and it's hard to replace, Steve isn't aggressive with his pricing, and with the decline of ebay more and more dealers/collectors are setting up their own auction houses- Shoeless, Brockelman and Luckey, Sterling, Cataquet, etc.
    Major acquisition would be a great jump start.

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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>my guess: Steve is going to start doing auctions. >>



    I like this guess a lot. >>



    Makes the most sense to me-inventory flies off the shelf and it's hard to replace, Steve isn't aggressive with his pricing, and with the decline of ebay more and more dealers/collectors are setting up their own auction houses- Shoeless, Brockelman and Luckey, Sterling, Cataquet, etc.
    Major acquisition would be a great jump start. >>



    There certainly would be benefits to all parties involved if this were the case. Steve would be able to get maximum money for his product and customers wouldn't have to worry about being on his website the second it gets listed, just whether or not they're willing to bid higher than everyone else. It would also certainly provide more accurate data for pricing products.

    However, I think the big announcement is that Steve is pregnant. The ultimate unopened item.
  • fergie23fergie23 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭✭
    Hopefully he is announcing that he will offer a consignment service or something similar and not that his warehouse burned down and he is moving to San Diego to focus on golf and selling Ken Griffey Jr memorabilia.

    Robb
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