@WAYNEAS said:
Such a great display of Eliasberg's coins.
Does anybody know the last year that a coin contained the pedigree?
Wayne
According to “King of Coins” by Q. David Bowers (1996):
“On November 7, 1950, Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr., finished his collection.”
When I purchased this book inside I found a brochure from the U.S. Mint “Louis Eliasberg Memorial Exhibition” held from April 21-December 31, 1976. He had passed away February 20, 1976. Not sure if that was meant to be sold with the book but it was a pleasant surprise!
And one of mine:
Sweet coin AND an OGH and CAC- quite the trifecta there Eldo!
Now just waiting for my post to be trolled by someone saying CAC doesn’t add value and that it would sell for the same without a CAC sticker and how we all need to learn to grade coins and one man’s opinion blah blah blah blah hahahaha…….
@WAYNEAS said:
Such a great display of Eliasberg's coins.
Does anybody know the last year that a coin contained the pedigree?
Wayne
According to “King of Coins” by Q. David Bowers (1996):
“On November 7, 1950, Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr., finished his collection.”
When I purchased this book inside I found a brochure from the U.S. Mint “Louis Eliasberg Memorial Exhibition” held from April 21-December 31, 1976. He had passed away February 20, 1976. Not sure if that was meant to be sold with the book but it was a pleasant surprise!
And one of mine:
Thank you for posting this and
the nice details that you included with it.
Wayne
Anybody have an Eliasberg catalogue handy that can look up something for me?
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@CaptHenway said:
Anybody have an Eliasberg catalogue handy that can look up something for me?
Yup, fire away....
Could you please message me the description of Lot 698, and the price realized if you have it?
Thanks.
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My one and only is a nice AU58 1936 D dime. Not especially rare, but it has the pedigree.
But it's in the lockup, and I don't have a photo handy.
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Eliasberg had a couple of original mint rolls of 1883 No Cent nickels in his collection. Some enterprising dealer bought them and had them slabbed with the Eliasberg provenance listed on the label. These will be the most available and least expensive coin for a coin collector who wants a coin showing the Eliasberg provenance.
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@PerryHall said:
Eliasberg had a couple of original mint rolls of 1883 No Cent nickels in his collection. Some enterprising dealer bought them and had them slabbed with the Eliasberg provenance listed on the label. These will be the most available and least expensive coin for a coin collector who wants a coin showing the Eliasberg provenance.
So question for you- and a brief backstory. I crossed over a “Newman” coin and had PCGS expand the true provenance to “Green-Newman-Pogue”- they did it no questions asked.
What if I just sent in a bunch of random old coins and requested the Eliasberg pedigree on them- (a) would PCGS do it and (b) wouldn’t they then sell for more $?
So I guess my overall question is- how trustworthy are the pedigrees on TPGS labels?
If the provenance is from a famous collector, they normally sell for a premium. I imagine the major grading services require some form of documentation before they add the provenance of a coin to the slab label but I can't say for sure since I don't submit coins from famous collectors for grading.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Awesome coins everyone. Great eye candy. Much appreciated.
Cheers.
@PerryHall said:
Eliasberg had a couple of original mint rolls of 1883 No Cent nickels in his collection. Some enterprising dealer bought them and had them slabbed with the Eliasberg provenance listed on the label. These will be the most available and least expensive coin for a coin collector who wants a coin showing the Eliasberg provenance.
Cool. Will keep an eye open for that one.
It was nice reading the the twenty five year old article in the Baltimore Sun about the 1997 shindig
@Eldorado9 said:
Eliasberg's incomparable 05-s. Obtained from the SF Mint in 1905 by J. Clapp. Shows prooflike fields.
Very nice coin and great pedigree. I wonder how many of the Eliasberg coins in this thread was owned by Clapp.
Here's Laura's description of the coin:
Laura Sperber said:
An inspiring SUPERB GEM that has appeared in auction exactly two times since it left the San Francisco mint in 1905. Tied for second finest graded, this is a spectacular specimen. Described in the April 1997 Eliasberg catalog as:
"A gorgeous gem specimen of an issue which is exceedingly rare at this level. Delicate champagne toning at the centers changes to light gold at the borders, creating a visual and artistic treat. Some very light planchet striae are on the obverse (from the planchet preparation process."
To that we will add that the surfaces have a glowing, glassy luster that enhances the light golden iridescent toning. The devices have a pearly sheen and they stand out boldly. Finer than the vast majority of pieces, this is an underrated rarity at this level.
Ex. Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr Collection, Bowers and Merena/Stack's, April 1997, lot 2105. Purchased directly from the San Francisco mint by J.M. Clapp in November 1905; J.M. Clapp to John H. Clapp; Clapp Estate, en bloc to Eliasberg, via Stack's in 1942. Sold for $23,100 in the original Eliasberg sale, purchased by John C. Hugon; Hugon Collection, Heritage, January 2005, lot 4240, where it sold for a world record $32,200.
Thank you @zoins for that description! It is such a special piece for me, thinking about where it has been, and the fact that somebody at the SF mint carefully picked it out.....It must have looked special even back in 1905 as it came off the press. Coins like this are a real treat, and the stuff of numismatic dreams.
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Such a great display of Eliasberg's coins.
Does anybody know the last year that a coin contained the pedigree?
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
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According to “King of Coins” by Q. David Bowers (1996):
“On November 7, 1950, Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr., finished his collection.”
When I purchased this book inside I found a brochure from the U.S. Mint “Louis Eliasberg Memorial Exhibition” held from April 21-December 31, 1976. He had passed away February 20, 1976. Not sure if that was meant to be sold with the book but it was a pleasant surprise!
And one of mine:
Sweet coin AND an OGH and CAC- quite the trifecta there Eldo!
Now just waiting for my post to be trolled by someone saying CAC doesn’t add value and that it would sell for the same without a CAC sticker and how we all need to learn to grade coins and one man’s opinion blah blah blah blah hahahaha…….
Happy to own one from one of my favorite years!
Dave
I remember this coin- amazing strike and luster- it’s got it ALL goin’ on!
Holy COW!!!!! What a Monster!
I always bid on them and always lose 😂
BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.
Thank you for posting this and
the nice details that you included with it.
Wayne
Kennedys are my quest...
Anybody have an Eliasberg catalogue handy that can look up something for me?
Yup, fire away....
Could you please message me the description of Lot 698, and the price realized if you have it?
Thanks.
698 - 1922-D MS65 Red and Brown: Very sharply struck and somewhat scarce as such.
Have to find my prices realized.
My one and only is a nice AU58 1936 D dime. Not especially rare, but it has the pedigree.
But it's in the lockup, and I don't have a photo handy.
Saints are a problem because a lot of them are moon money.
This one should be doable if it ever pops up.
I've been waiting for a few years and no luck
My Saint Set
PM sent.
I am glad that this thread is back, as it is a great opportunity to display my newp:
Used to own this one. It was Ex. Dickinson, Clapp, Eliasberg, Gardner.
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Great coins everyone!
Given the mentions of Clapp, it would be interesting to see how many of these coins are from Clapp’s collection.
Full provenance: Earle-Clapp-Eliasberg
Eliasberg had a couple of original mint rolls of 1883 No Cent nickels in his collection. Some enterprising dealer bought them and had them slabbed with the Eliasberg provenance listed on the label. These will be the most available and least expensive coin for a coin collector who wants a coin showing the Eliasberg provenance.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
So question for you- and a brief backstory. I crossed over a “Newman” coin and had PCGS expand the true provenance to “Green-Newman-Pogue”- they did it no questions asked.
What if I just sent in a bunch of random old coins and requested the Eliasberg pedigree on them- (a) would PCGS do it and (b) wouldn’t they then sell for more $?
So I guess my overall question is- how trustworthy are the pedigrees on TPGS labels?
If the provenance is from a famous collector, they normally sell for a premium. I imagine the major grading services require some form of documentation before they add the provenance of a coin to the slab label but I can't say for sure since I don't submit coins from famous collectors for grading.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Awesome coins everyone. Great eye candy. Much appreciated.
Cheers.
Cool. Will keep an eye open for that one.
It was nice reading the the twenty five year old article in the Baltimore Sun about the 1997 shindig
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1997-04-09-1997099114-story.html
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/quarters/PCGS-2020-quarter-quest/album/247091
Eliasberg's incomparable 05-s. Obtained from the SF Mint in 1905 by J. Clapp. Shows prooflike fields.
Very nice coin and great pedigree. I wonder how many of the Eliasberg coins in this thread was owned by Clapp.
Here's Laura's description of the coin:
Thank you @zoins for that description! It is such a special piece for me, thinking about where it has been, and the fact that somebody at the SF mint carefully picked it out.....It must have looked special even back in 1905 as it came off the press. Coins like this are a real treat, and the stuff of numismatic dreams.
1905 20c PR66+ Eliasberg
I dont have one, but saw this image in another thread and thought it would be cool here
Eliasberg in front of the vault that housed his coins...
It's all about what the people want...