UNOPENED Packs with HOF Rookie cards Showing

rtimmer

I want to start this thread to show off your HOF Rookie card showing packs. A few years ago I set out collect a Rookie card showing pack or rack for everyone inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame starting with the year 2000. Here's a list of the inductees and scans of how I'm doing.
If you happen to have something I’m missing please show it off and let me know!

The year 2000, an extremely tough year:
Carlton fisk
Tony Perez








2001, a pair of MN greats
Dave Winfield
Kirby Puckett




2002:
Ozzie Smith




2003
Eddie Murray
Garry Carter



2004
Paul Molitor
Dennis Eckersly -this one took awhile but feels rewarding for good reason.





2005
Wade Boggs
Ryne Sandberg




2006
Bruce Sutter



2007
Cal Ripken
Tony Gwynn






2008
Rich Gossage


2009
Rickey Henderson
Jim Rice




2010
Andre Dawson


2011
Roberto Alomar
Bert Blyleven - this will be a tough one to find authenticated.


2012 Barry Larkin


2014
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Frank Thomas




2015 Craig Biggio
Randy Johnson
Pedro Martinez
John Smoltz






2016
Ken Griffey Jr.
Mike Piazza


2017
Jeff Bagwell
Ivan Rodriquez
Tim Raines






2018
Allen Trammell
Jim Thome
Jack Morris
Chipper Jones
Trevor Hoffman
Vlad Guerrero











2019
Lee Smith
Mariano Rivera
Mike Mussina
Edgar Martinez
Roy Halliday (don’t believe a pack or rack showing card exists)
Harold Baines







2020
Larry Walker
Derek Jeter





2021
No one elected

2022
David Ortiz

rtimmer

Added this one today. Probably paid more than I should have but it was just one I had to have.

LarkinCollector

Wow, I missed the original post, but that's an impressive run of unopened! I'm guessing Ripken is a fav?

Arsenal83

Anyone notice the second 75 Carter pack was noted as Gary "Cartel" by PSA?

cpamike

<< <i>Wow, I missed the original post, but that's an impressive run of unopened! I'm guessing Ripken is a fav? >>



No, IIRC he won a full cello box of them from a Ripken collector.

Ryan, I think that 1979 Ozzie cello was originally mine, LOL. I have its twin around someplace in the vault.

ThoseBackPages

WOW. Simply amazing!

i think those '75 Carters belonged to Mike Kelly originally

Tangalang

Don't you have the best cello pack rookie on top from 80's to 90's. Great collection and that's a massive amount of Ripken's....my goodness lol! I seen a guy on YouTube (Muggyman - believe he was a member here at one time before I joined) that has a massive amount of cellos with rookies on top!

craig44

Very impressive

Big80s

This is a really cool collection you've put together. The Bruce Sutter rack pack reminds me of a video I once did.

Thank you for sharing!

rtimmer

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<< <i>Wow, I missed the original post, but that's an impressive run of unopened! I'm guessing Ripken is a fav? >>



No, IIRC he won a full cello box of them from a Ripken collector.

Ryan, I think that 1979 Ozzie cello was originally mine, LOL. I have its twin around someplace in the vault. >>



Thanks all for the kind words and thanks for the Ozzie cello.... I don't remember exactly where I got that one but if you sent it my way thanks, I've taken good care of it!

For the Ripken's I actually bought those all over the years with no more than 2 or 3 coming from any one source. Quite a bit came from old GAI packs and back in the day I would buy all the cellos I could get with my top price being $45. Here's one of my favorite PSA pack submissions from 2011.




And if they ever start stabbing racks I have a few more Ripken's to grade:

rtimmer

<< <i>WOW. Simply amazing!

i think those '75 Carters belonged to Mike Kelly originally >>



I don't remember if I sent those in or bought them graded, but I definately remember the signing. A very nice man and experience:

rtimmer

<< <i>This is a really cool collection you've put together. The Bruce Sutter rack pack reminds me of a video I once did.

Thank you for sharing! >>



Jeff that video makes me almost cry each time I see it.

I am a huge fan of ripping but that's one I would have liked to see get saved. It's right up there with the lost Dr. J '72 wax that didn't get saved and sent in to PSA. Anyway you saved those Clemens Leaf wax packs so you will always be Aces in my book. Thanks again!

Big80s

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<< <i>This is a really cool collection you've put together. The Bruce Sutter rack pack reminds me of a video I once did.

Thank you for sharing! >>



Jeff that video makes me almost cry each time I see it.

I am a huge fan of ripping but that's one I would have liked to see get saved. It's right up there with the lost Dr. J '72 wax that didn't get saved and sent in to PSA. Anyway you saved those Clemens Leaf wax packs so you will always be Aces in my book. Thanks again! >>



In retrospect - I wish I had saved that pack too! The ripping karma got me too, that pack was a total dud, aside from the Sutter card. Lesson learned.

Amazing looking collection, Ryan! You can never go wrong keeping those star-showing packs unopened.

rtimmer

Got the Larkin

LarkinCollector

<< <i>Got the Larkin >>


I have quite a few of the Topps cellos/racks, but no Fleer yet.

Dboneesq

Ryan ... an amazing collection. Thanks for sharing ENJOY!

Dodgerfanjohn

<< <i>Don't you have the best cello pack rookie on top from 80's to 90's. Great collection and that's a massive amount of Ripken's....my goodness lol! I seen a guy on YouTube (Muggyman - believe he was a member here at one time before I joined) that has a massive amount of cellos with rookies on top! >>



Muggyman had a lot that were fakes. When he found out they were fake, he tried to sell them off before anyone caught on. He was tarred and feathered and run off the board.

shagrotn77

<< <i>Anyone notice the second 75 Carter pack was noted as Gary "Cartel" by PSA? >>



Whoever Gary Cartel is, I wouldn't mess with him.

rtimmer

Good progress recently on the project here's the Maddux who was by far my favorite pitcher in the '90s .....although you probably couldn't tell that from my unopened collection.

My concern today is that I've not seen a Pedro showing pack or rack. Does anyone know of a product that this could exist in?

ReggieCleveland

Obviously there isn't one in '91 UDFE but I believe the '92 Bowman packs are pretty see-through.

Arthur

LarkinCollector

<< <i>Obviously there isn't one in '91 UDFE but I believe the '92 Bowman packs are pretty see-through.

Arthur >>


For 92 Bowman it should be possible for a Pedro on the back, the top card (which is usually much easier to make out) has always been from the E sheet and Pedro on the A sheet. Rivera on top is possible if you want to grab one before induction. I'm not sure on Jumbo sequencing.

rtimmer

Ok thanks for the Pedro suggestion, at least it probably exists even if none are graded yet. My probably not pack list remains at 2 for now.

Here's my Alomar and in 1988 (or 1998) I would have bet on Grace being the hall of famer but I'm glad. Found a pack with them both.

rtimmer

Here's a nice looking Glavine. I was glad to see he and Maddux go in together.

rtimmer

Added the Frank Thomas today. Nothing exists PSA graded so I went with a BBCE rack.

seebelow

wow. impressive....with the "altered packs or upgraded packs" and "tough to get authenticated"..does that mean people are faking even modern cellos, 30-40$ packs?...gee whiz...cant trust anyone or anything these days....very impressive collection..keep posting...thanks

1980scollector

Great collection.

seebelow

whats all this about muggy man...cant find a good thread....anyone have a link?...he sounds familiar and i think i recall his posts....wasnt he ripping just awesome packs?...i thought there is something about him that stands out i can t recall, he was charismatic if its the same guy

rtimmer

Originally posted by: seebelow
wow. impressive....with the "altered packs or upgraded packs" and "tough to get authenticated"..does that mean people are faking even modern cellos, 30-40$ packs?...gee whiz...cant trust anyone or anything these days..

Not sure exactly what you're talking about with the altered packs. I more so like having my packs sealed for protection and display so I had Steve wrap it not that I had any doubt it was authentic. The reason I can't get a PSA graded example is because the value really isn't there so no one has submitted a Thomas rookie pack yet. If these actually went for $40 I'm sure some would start to be submitted and I could have picked one up already graded.

rtimmer

Congrats to Ken Griffey Jr. on making the hall! Here's my favorite pack

slum22

This is a great thread! Those are some really great unopened packs you have amassed. Looking forward to following the progress of your protect.

Tibor

On your sub form it says "altered stock". Can you explain that in relation
to the cellos you submitted? Thank you.

BeRoyalKC

Originally posted by: rtimmer
Congrats to Ken Griffey Jr. on making the hall! Here's my favorite pack

I sent an 89 F Ripken FF cello in this year and they sent it back too big. I thought it was due to the 36 cards in the pack but obviously yours made it.

grote15

Originally posted by: Tibor

On your sub form it says "altered stock". Can you explain that in relation

to the cellos you submitted? Thank you.

Altered stock on a pack sub is the term used when pack fails authentication for whatever reason.



Beautiful Griffey cello, Ryan!

Tibor

Thank you grote15. Tibor

LarkinCollector

Odd they wouldn't use N4: Questionable Authenticity for those. Is N4 perhaps used when it's an obvious fake/resealed pack and N5 where it's likely good, but Steve can't be 100% certain?

baz518

The dreaded N5 on pack grading, that's the code I've always gotten on "bad" packs. I say "bad" because I've gotten them on fresh packs straight from a BBCE wrapped box too (that end up getting slabbed on the second attempt). But two tries is about all I can give a pack that's not really high dollar... the cost and wait time is very prohibitive for multiple tries.



Love this thread though... unopened packs (and threads of those packs) are my favorite, with rips coming in a close 2nd. Thanks for sharing your collection!

rtimmer

Originally posted by: LarkinCollector
Odd they wouldn't use N4: Questionable Authenticity for those. Is N4 perhaps used when it's an obvious fake/resealed pack and N5 where it's likely good, but Steve can't be 100% certain?

Yeah there's a variety of reason some honest like a popped flap and probably some cases of down right attempts to fake a pack that receive an N4. I've gotten decent at inspecting packs but in every submission there's probably still atleast one pack that doesn't pass inspection.

mintonlypls

I own an 89 Donruss rak w/Griffey Jr on top.

rtimmer

Saw a good deal so I doubled down on Bruce Sutter. I prefer cello packs but this is a tough project to complete so I will take a wax pack any day and for some HOF rookies I guess there aren't any cellos made.

rtimmer

Been a while but I got a submission back from PSA today and in it was this fairly rare gem:

grote15

Nice work, Ryan!



I just got this back from PSA (along with a PSA 9 78 cello with Molitor RC on top):

spanky74

As for a Pedro Martinez, maybe 1991 Classic Best? Of course it is minor league card, but at least it is the same year as the Upper Deck rookie.

rtimmer

Great Yount Tim, I love how you can read the name so clearly it presents very well! Would like to see the Molly too I have way more of those I've collected. Here's my other Hall of Famer that came thru in this submission

Stone193

Nothing mindblowing or anything.



Remember back when we had the 83T cello offering?



Well, I did get a Ryno on back.

grote15

That's a keeper, Mike!



Also, with the looser cello wrap that Topps used in 1983, the corners should be very well protected.

KendallCat

grote15

Nice racks, KC! They look familiar, too..

grote15

Here is a pair of 1978 wax packs with Murray RC face out on back~one from Topps and one from OPC. I pulled the Topps pack from a 1978 wax tray that had a long tear in the cellophane. It looks better to me than a 5, and Murray appears to be very nicely centered behind the wrapper, so I graded it to stop me from ripping it, lol.. The 78 OPC pack was pulled from one of the 78 boxes that came out of the case we broke here on CU a number of years ago. That case was a beauty~it was before the advent of the FASC acronym so the boxes weren't labeled as such, but I sure wish we had another case of those to break. Still have one of the boxes here salted away for a rainy day. Lots of 9s and 10s from those boxes.

KendallCat

Originally posted by: grote15
Nice racks, KC! They look familiar, too..

They should look familiar . Between my spree in AC and my wife redoing the kitchen and 4 bathrooms I figured I had to actually sell a few items which I hate to do. I would be happy if someone just tells me I have a nice rack - or two

KC

rtimmer

Speaking about help from Tim and OPC packs here's one I've had for awhile and didn't put the scan up

grote15

Ryan, here is a pic of the 78 Molitor pack I mentioned earlier..