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Does anyone know when the 2013 Generals coins end?

tlake22tlake22 Posts: 299 ✭✭
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Are these ended at the end of the year or do they carry over to 2014? Anyone know? Thanks.

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  • 2manycoins2fewfunds2manycoins2fewfunds Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭
    Ended before they began.............
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,757 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Ended before they began............. >>



    That is too bad because the topic is very deserving of a commemorative coin program. Those five men played a major role in saving the world from Nazi and Imperial Japanese tyranny.

    The three piece Proof set sales were limited to 10,000 sets and sold out quickly. It is a shame that the mint insists on making the more interesting sets hard to get, and then markets the rest of the coins in the same boring fashion.
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  • tlake22tlake22 Posts: 299 ✭✭
    2 posts, still no answer. Anyone know for sure?
  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭
    First use of new laser technology on the Silver Proof. I like it. Quick sell out of the Three Coin Set. Wonder what will be in the new profile collection.
    This may end up being a sleeper.
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  • HATTRICKHATTRICK Posts: 2,184 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It will be over by the end of the year. Usually not sold the following year, however as we have recently seen with the mint anything is possible.image
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,757 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Our of respect for those who might buy the coins in 2013 no more pieces should be sold in 2014, but given the history of other issues, like the Jackie Robinson coins, who knows? The extended selling period didn't do the Jackie Robinson program any good.
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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most mint commem programs end in December of that year.
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Most mint commem programs end in December of that year. >>



    I believe it's part of the Congressional mandate...must end by 12/31....The Mint usually stops all sales around the middle of December.
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  • tlake22tlake22 Posts: 299 ✭✭
    The reason I ask is that the 2012 ATB 5 ozers sold well into 2013.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,138 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The reason I ask is that the 2012 ATB 5 ozers sold well into 2013. >>



    Commemorative coins come under a different guideline....

    US Mint link
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  • tlake22tlake22 Posts: 299 ✭✭
    Thank you. I've never seen that link before. Pretty clear cut.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,836 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Article on the front page of CW notes that Gen. coins will go off sale on 12/31. With the date a certainty I'd guess that if they're still showing low sales there will be large numbers sold in the last week just like the SSB.

    The only change for a very low mintage for a $5 Gold Commem. would be if one goes off sale suddenly w/o notice which will not be the case here.
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  • CoinMaster1229CoinMaster1229 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭
    The 5 Star generals uncirculated Gold outsells the Jackie Robinson with 5,225 sold so far.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Legally, they can't sell past 12/31

    typically, they stop sales mid-december.

    I think for these they said they will sell inventory up to 12/31.

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  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Legally, they can't sell past 12/31 >>




    You can still get 2012 First Spouses.
  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Legally, they can't sell past 12/31 >>




    You can still get 2012 First Spouses. >>



    there are specific program restrictions that limit the commems from being sold past 2013.
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  • kimber45ACPkimber45ACP Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

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    << <i>Legally, they can't sell past 12/31 >>




    You can still get 2012 First Spouses. >>



    there are specific program restrictions that limit the commems from being sold past 2013. >>



    Got it. Thanks.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 5 Star generals uncirculated Gold outsells the Jackie Robinson with 5,225 sold so far. >>


    Outsells, yes. Outdelivers, still to be determined. It depends on whether the Mint strikes or has struck additional coins since the unc. gold went backorder.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Outsells, yes. Outdelivers, still to be determined. It depends on whether the Mint strikes or has struck additional coins since the unc. gold went backorder.

    Several indicators point towards additional coins being struck. When the 2013-W Unc AGE sold out, the web page said "sold out" (although they could have struck more).

    When the Unc $5 MacArthur started going dark, the message was "product will be available for shipping 10/25/2013" - a date already past. Now the message has been changed to "product will be available for shipping 12/30/2013". Using a date that has already passed could have simply been a "placeholder" and might indicate that the Mint had not yet decided on a 2nd striking but that it was in the process of considering it.

    A similar dance occurred with the 2012 Star Spangled Banner $5 Uncs - and then the Mint did strike more coins after the initial inventory was depleted.

    You never know what the Mint is really going to do, but I'm guessing that the odds favor more coins being struck.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, generally the bills that get passed into the laws for the commemoratives have wording about selling only in the specific year.

    the first spouse program has been created under a different paragraph of the law and is static year after year (made once and done). (unless Congress votes to change it later)

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A similar dance occurred with the 2012 Star Spangled Banner $5 Uncs - and then the Mint did strike more coins after the initial inventory was depleted.

    You never know what the Mint is really going to do, but I'm guessing that the odds favor more coins being struck. >>


    The Generals clad half is on backorder too, and the ship date keeps advancing one day at a time (currently 12/28). This has happened several times in the past, and in most cases the Mint did not strike additional coins and the overbooked orders were eventually canceled.

    I'm watching to see if the ship date for the MacArthur unc. gold (currently 12/30) begins advancing also, once the ship date for the clad half catches up with it.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,224 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Generals clad half is on backorder too, and the ship date keeps advancing one day at a time (currently 12/28). This has happened several times in the past, and in most cases the Mint did not strike additional coins and the overbooked orders were eventually canceled.

    I'm watching to see if the ship date for the MacArthur unc. gold (currently 12/30) begins advancing also, once the ship date for the clad half catches up with it.

    Ah, the subtle and arcane knack of interpreting Mint behaviors. I love it.!image
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,656 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting thought

    Cards are not charged until they are shipped.

    If the order is taken on 12/31 but shipment is made in 2014, then payment is not made until 2014.

    It seems there is a bit of aggressive interpretation of the law vs generally accepted accounting procedures(gaap).

    Gaap would have the sale being a 2014 one. I'm sure the mint is aware. It's just interesting to note this with the change

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The announced ship date for the backordered generals unc. clad half is now 12/31.

    The announced ship date for the backordered generals unc. $5 gold remains at 12/30.

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  • kiyotekiyote Posts: 5,588 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The announced ship date for the backordered generals unc. clad half is now 12/31.

    The announced ship date for the backordered generals unc. $5 gold remains at 12/30. >>



    Good info. I paid extra $ for expediated shipping, but I don't know if that'll help. I ordered 1 clad half on on 12/13, along with some other, non-backordered coins.
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