1793 Liberty Cap cent found with metal detector (!)
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Not mine, unfortunately. My eyes bugged out when I saw what this lucky guy dug. I've seen several Chain and Wreath cents come out of the ground, but never a '93 Cap. This coin is actually in presentable shape and has a clear, 4-digit date. This is like winning the numismatic lottery for sure.
Link to great find on treasurenet.com
Link to great find on treasurenet.com
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<< <i>Might want to soak it in cider for a few days. >>
I'd probably down a few pints of cider had that been my find!
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<< <i>Wow! Someone please email him and tell him not to clean it. >>
I can picture him soaking it in muriatic acid over night, then waking up to find a blank copper disk that was half as thick as it was the previous day. "The big one that got away."
I wrecked a couple of metal detector finds in my time, the only notable one being a possible 1909-S Indian that had a cake of corrosion on its surface. The layer of gunk was so thick that the alleged "S" mint mark was just a raised blob. While I was cleaning it with a scraper, the possible mint mark flaked off, never to be seen again. I guess I'll never know if it was a "P" or "S". Oh well, the coin was totally toasted anyway.
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<< <i>That's awesome, and not one of the reasons coin dealers drink >>
What about champagne!
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Thanks much...
<< <i>so I am the guy that found this coin. Who should I go to to get it conserved ? Once I realized what it was in the field I haven't touched it with anything and it has just been in a case. If anyone would be kind enough to email me about who I should go to I would appreciate it my email is Gary.e.Killmer@gmail.com.
Thanks much... >>
Great find.
<< <i>so I am the guy that found this coin. Who should I go to to get it conserved ? Once I realized what it was in the field I haven't touched it with anything and it has just been in a case. If anyone would be kind enough to email me about who I should go to I would appreciate it my email is Gary.e.Killmer@gmail.com.
Thanks much... >>
Here's the thing, Gary. There will almost surely never be a time in the future when this coin will be worth less than it is today...
...as long as you don't try to clean it.
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<< <i>so I am the guy that found this coin. Who should I go to to get it conserved ? Once I realized what it was in the field I haven't touched it with anything and it has just been in a case. If anyone would be kind enough to email me about who I should go to I would appreciate it my email is Gary.e.Killmer@gmail.com.
Thanks much... >>
I would conserve it the same way ancient copper coins are conserved - soak it in pure olive oil for 6-12 months (yep, it takes that long), then brush it with a camel hair brush, which is a soft brush and will remove dirt without damaging the patina. Cleaning it any other way, you risk damaging it and reducing the value permanently.
Hmm. sounds risky. Your best bet is to send it in to the PCGS restoration service. Let the pros handle it. Then have them grade it and slab it in the "right" slab. Coins in PCGS slabs get more money than any other grading service.
<< <i>so I am the guy that found this coin. Who should I go to to get it conserved ? Once I realized what it was in the field I haven't touched it with anything and it has just been in a case. If anyone would be kind enough to email me about who I should go to I would appreciate it my email is Gary.e.Killmer@gmail.com.
Thanks much... >>
Send it to NCS , they will do what can be done. That coin, if genuine, could be worth several thousand dollars.
<< <i>I would conserve it the same way ancient copper coins are conserved - soak it in pure olive oil for 6-12 months (yep, it takes that long), then brush it with a camel hair brush, which is a soft brush and will remove dirt without damaging the patina. Cleaning it any other way, you risk damaging it and reducing the value permanently.
Hmm. sounds risky. Your best bet is to send it in to the PCGS restoration service. Let the pros handle it. Then have them grade it and slab it in the "right" slab. Coins in PCGS slabs get more money than any other grading service. >>
Why would you think it's risky? Ancient copper has been conserved that way for 100 years.
My latest coin find was much more modest. The other day at the local market, I got a 58 D cent in change (looked to be XF 45), which made my day a little bit nicer. I keep hoping an IHC will turn up; something that hasn't happened to me in over 50 years.
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My advice would be to leave it alone. Copper is extremely finicky and once you take action, there is NO going back. This is a once in a lifetime find, and it would be a shame to ruin it. I like the way it looks and the copper is probably pretty stable. Most 1793 Liberty Caps have plenty of problems and yours looks much better than most. NCS or other so-called professional conservationists will likely ruin it- sending it back looking like a brassy nightmare. If you really are interested in some type of conservation, I would contact an early copper authority like Tom Reynolds for advice.
Again, congratulations and thanks for posting here.
<< <i>Outstanding find, GKman! Glad to see it made the banner. Congrats!
My advice would be to leave it alone. Copper is extremely finicky and once you take action, there is NO going back. This is a once in a lifetime find, and it would be a shame to ruin it. I like the way it looks and the copper is probably pretty stable. Most 1793 Liberty Caps have plenty of problems and yours looks much better than most. NCS or other so-called professional conservationists will likely ruin it- sending it back looking like a brassy nightmare. If you really are interested in some type of conservation, I would contact an early copper authority like Tom Reynolds for advice.
Again, congratulations and thanks for posting here. >>
Do not soak it in olive oil either. I have seen some very poor results - probably best to sell it as is-if you are planning to sell it.
Bob
I've never made the banner. One of my finds made "The Best of Treasurenet" category once, but that was on the old site, before you could nominate finds to the banner, I believe.
Since I'm knocking off some of my rustiness and brushing away the cobwebs from my long unused detector lately, I've been over on TNet a little bit.
One thing's for sure... you can be an accomplished detectorist, but when you see what some other folks post over there, it makes you humble real quick!
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Thanks for the congrats! Wow.. So... since I have found this thing alot of folks have offered me a lot of advice on this coin. Obviously my intent is to sell it for the most money. This would be the first item I have ever found that I sold so I don't want to end up regretting to do so because I let it go for too little. So.. What advice would you have for me? What is a good offer on this coin as is?
Thanks guys..
PS ... The week before I found this coin I found a Vermon Auctori in the same field
<< <i>Hi Folks
Thanks for the congrats! Wow.. So... since I have found this thing alot of folks have offered me a lot of advice on this coin. Obviously my intent is to sell it for the most money. This would be the first item I have ever found that I sold so I don't want to end up regretting to do so because I let it go for too little. So.. What advice would you have for me? What is a good offer on this coin as is?
Thanks guys..
PS ... The week before I found this coin I found a Vermon Auctori in the same field >>
First, get it in a slab, PCGS or NGC. Then consign it to a Heritage auction.
It was an emotional experience for me to do this since I have never parted with anything I have found before.
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<< <i>Well guys, I put the coin up for auction through Stacks and Bowers. It will be in their September Americana sale in Philadelphia.
It was an emotional experience for me to do this since I have never parted with anything I have found before. >>
Did u have the coin conserved or graded?
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