My new Pine Tree Shilling

ajaan

I feel so generous I think I'll donate it to the 7th Grade Social Studies teachers at my school so they can pass it around. "Coin" was found in a dealer's World coin junk bin: the 5/$1.00 bins you see at coin shows.

keyman64

WOW! What a find. Congrats! Donate as in give to them...or just loan it to them for a day type of thing? Very cool either way!

STONE

WOW, that is amazing if it is real...it appears to be from the image!

Good for you to donate it to educational purposes

CoinZip

Awesome find......

ajaan

ah . . . I'm thinking it's a fake. Do you think it's real???

CoinRaritiesOnline

Obvious fake.

PerryHall

It's a replica. I doubt it was ever made to deceive coin collectors.

ricko

Yep... replica..... Cheers, RickO

ajaan

Most definately a fake. Great for the kids to see though.

BillJones

After a few years of studying these coins, I have concluded that the real ones are either very high grade or low grade with not much in between. The reason is that all (most all?) were struck on a rocker press which caused them to be bent. We all have learned that bent coins wear unevenly which is the case with most all Massachusetts silver except the small planchet Pine Tree shillings which were struck on a screw press. Even if the surfaces did not give this piece away as a fake, the even wear would.

sniocsu

Its a fake. My only question is what its made of. Doesn't seem like the more modern replicas unless someone took one of them and artificially "circulated" it

ajaan

<< <i>My only question is what its made of. >>


I think Pb.

BillJones

Yes, it looks like lead. There were also a number of copies made in the thirties in the Boston area in white metal well before the Hobby Protection Act. These pieces did not need to have "COPY" on them, the strike was nothing like the real thing.

coindeuce

It wouldn't be PC in today's atmosphere to donate a piece of Pb to be passed around amongst school children. Imagine the uproar if some wiseacre kid decided to bite it to mimic the old mythic custom of checking a gold coin.

CoinRaritiesOnline

<< <i>There were also a number of copies made in the thirties in the Boston area in white metal well before the Hobby Protection Act. >>



I see examples of this particular type of copy many times each year - I do not know where they are from, but I believe they are of more recent vintage.

BillJones

<< <i>

<< <i>There were also a number of copies made in the thirties in the Boston area in white metal well before the Hobby Protection Act. >>



I see examples of this particular type of copy many times each year - I do not know where they are from, but I believe they are of more recent vintage. >>



I have one of these pieces with the original box and papers that was produced in 1930 (Massachusetts Bay Colony 1630 - 1930). It has the story of Hanna Hull's dowery on the reverse so it would not fool anyone, but others that look to be of the same vintage have pine tree design elements on both sides. I will grant you that there are some "gift shop" pieces around that were made and sold much later.

** Hanna's dowery - She sat on one pan of a large scale, and father John Hull added Pine Tree shillings to the other pan until the balanced.

ajaan

<< <i>It wouldn't be PC in today's atmosphere to donate a piece of Pb to be passed around amongst school children. Imagine the uproar if some wiseacre kid decided to bite it to mimic the old mythic custom of checking a gold coin. >>


Hopefully we teach our Middle Schoolers well enough not to put coins in their mouth.

johnny9434

a neat fake. still good to pass around some to the kids.