Opinions are just that... Opinions
OperationButter
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It seems that with the decline in metal prices peoples respect for one another has followed. In almost every topic there are several posts that just spew venom. Its getting rather frustrating to see post after post of people trying to constantly tear one another down. Its totally fine (as well as a good thing) to have differing views, but it gets old reading angry messages all the time. I very much enjoy reading a post with a differing view than mine. To me it makes me think about things differently. I enjoy reading these forums in the little off time that I have, but recently it seems like it has changed.
Dno maybe im reading posts incorrectly but i wish people would realize that there is no right answer. No one knows which way the markets are going, if there is manipulation or not, what is real or fake etc. Just stop taking offense to someone that has a differing opinion and responding back with angry posts, it would make your point much stronger imo.
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And to keep it related to the forum, my order from Goldmart arrived today! Only took 3 weeks...
Dno maybe im reading posts incorrectly but i wish people would realize that there is no right answer. No one knows which way the markets are going, if there is manipulation or not, what is real or fake etc. Just stop taking offense to someone that has a differing opinion and responding back with angry posts, it would make your point much stronger imo.
/rant
And to keep it related to the forum, my order from Goldmart arrived today! Only took 3 weeks...
Gold is for savings. Fiat is for transactions.
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The important point to take away is... what Didja get?
I'm lookin at you, you lookin at me,
its always the same, its just shame thats all
Loves me some shiny!
<< <i>why does it always seem to be,
I'm lookin at you, you lookin at me,
its always the same, its just shame thats all >>
Great tune
<< <i>YOU ARE WRONG, keep your opinions to yourself...
The important point to take away is... what Didja get?
Funny stuff! I ordered 1oz JM bars and they look fantastic.
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Seems clear that fiscal policy in the U.S. has been successful in jacking up the equity markets in the short run. This has made a lot of people a lot of money. What it leads to down the road will be interesting to watch.
I promise to be more civil in the near term.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Is it wrong to suggest that opinion be based on fact rather than conjecture, assumption or conspiracy theory? >>
I'll drink to that
We have to many posters that are disciples of the PM Demigods.
Is it wrong to think that banks who make leveraged bets on massively-leveraged financial instruments should never be allowed to restate their bad loans as good assets?
Is it wrong to think that bankruptcy laws should have been (and still should be) applied to the big banks, instead of giving them taxpayer money so that their execs could have their bonuses instead of being fired?
Is it wrong to think that Glass Stegal should be re-implemented so that commercial banks can't be involved in mortgage lending? Is it wrong to think that Robert Rubin (i.e., Goldman Sachs) and Jim Leach didn't make out handily from the repeal of Glass Stegal?
Is it wrong to think that John Corzine should be prosecuted for grand larceny of allocated customer accounts, instead of being allowed to start another commodity trading firm?
Is it wrong to think that instead of re-inflating the real estate bubble and stock market with another $85 Billion/month, that Bernanke should talk about re-instituting reasonable lending rules to weed out unqualified home buyers?
Is it wrong to think that HFT shouldn't be allowed to jerk the markets around in order to search & destroy for the benefit of the trading firms that used them, to the detriment of small investors? ZeroHedge documents these destructive manipulations at least once every week.
These are some of the facts, stated above.
Is it right to put your faith and money into the programs being run by corrupt wall street firms, bankers & politicians?
Is it wrong NOT to trust these guys?
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Is it wrong to suggest that opinion be based on fact rather than conjecture, assumption or conspiracy theory? >>
One man's conspiracy just might be another man's fact.
An internet forum is where one posts opinions that are within the boundaries established by the forum host. It is not a college research paper.
I like to post links and quoted comments from what experienced and knowlegeable professionals in the metal investment industry have to say about metal and about things that affect metal. Feel free to attack what they have to say, or better yet post opposing views from knowledgeable sources, but don't shoot the messenger.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
And that is the crux of the problem. Why is the search for truth or fact considered attacking?
jmksi, it is not wrong to "think" anything. But just because you "think" something does not make it fact. I have absolutely no problem accepting opinion if it is supported with fact. I "think" the problem many of the naysayers have is that opinion is often presented as fact. And usually with fervor that tends to incite criticism. No one is shooting the messenger, but rather the presentation of the message.
Please correct me if I write something that is obviously incorrect. I welcome it. I just as that you correct me with substantiated fact, and not the opinion of a blogger.
experienced and knowlegeable proffessionals in the metal investment industry have to say about metal and about things that affect metal.
This is just my opinion
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Why is the search for truth or fact considered attacking? >>
What is truth or fact to you may not be the same to someone else. No one on the forum holds the title of "truth knower." I would hope that all here do hold the title of "truth seeker." Any search for truth must include a consideration of differing points of view, particularly from those with experience in the metals investment industry. I for one will continue to present opinions of these professionals, even knowing that you don't agree with them. I will also continue to not run them by you first. Live with it. If you don't like the opinions, make a valid case against them, not an invalid attempt to discredit the person sharing them.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I will discredit any opinion I can prove false or misleading and I will discredit anyone who presents misinformation. Failure to do so only propagates more misinformation. Just think where we could be today if more people discredited the propaganda of our politicians.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
<< <i>Sorry, but fact is fact.
I will discredit any opinion I can prove false or misleading and I will discredit anyone who presents misinformation. Failure to do so only propagates more misinformation. Just think where we could be today if more people discredited the propaganda of our politicians. >>
Try to do so with more proof than just your opinion. After all, you might just be wrong.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
How does one measure facts (on PMs or anything)?
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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/ˈärgyo͞o/
Verb
Give reasons or cite evidence in support of an idea, action, or theory, typically with the aim of persuading others to share one's view.
Persuade someone to do or not to do (something) by giving reasons: "I tried to argue him out of it".
Synonyms
dispute - debate - discuss - reason - contend - quarrel"
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>Sorry, but fact is fact.
I will discredit any opinion I can prove false or misleading and I will discredit anyone who presents misinformation. Failure to do so only propagates more misinformation. Just think where we could be today if more people discredited the propaganda of our politicians. >>
Much better off if we could discredit the propaganda of our politicians and media.