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1805 Draped Bust Half - Opinions Wanted / GTG

pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Very interested in your opinions on this one, especially opinions of the BHNC guys, and if you want to guess the grade too, have at it

I have it down as a O-112, and it has a about a 20deg CCW reverse rotation. My understanding is the O-112 is a common marriage for this date.


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“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

Todd - BHNC #242

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    is the reverse rotated or the obverse?
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  • bronzematbronzemat Posts: 2,654 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good grif thats a beauty. Love those early busts!
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    dang, did i forget to say nice newp!

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    xf45+
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  • TahoeDaleTahoeDale Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭
    Really nice, as the 1805 is tougher than most think

    Grade? AU 50, maybe 45 if the graders were hung over.
    TahoeDale
  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking dime.....I will stretch and say 53
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A beaut! 50.
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  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,997 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm going to be conservative and say XF45 but if the luster is there... AU50. Great piece!
  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
    I'd go with 45, but that's a great coin.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe NGC 50, but I can't see our hosts calling it any higher than XF45. The surfaces just are a little too funky, IMHO, and some of that wear looks pretty deep.

    But I'm not a Draped coinage expert by any means - Capped stuff is my thing, so take my opinion with a grain of salt. image
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  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the input so far ... even bidask image

    Hey, you know his mind was somewhere else (where, we are not sure yet), because when I prodded him via PM, he came back with half dime! image

    Anyway, I do appreciate the comments ... please keep them coming.

    I'll reveal later tonight or tomorrow after we get a few more (hopefully) ...

    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303 ✭
    I always like to guess the grade before seeing any other guesses and XF 45 is what my guess was.
  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    ngc au55 nice coin !
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,809 ✭✭✭✭✭
    53, great coin.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,795 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The reverse looks better than the obverse. Terrific strike and should be AU50 but the obverse just has a look about it that makes question an AU grade.

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭


    << <i>I'm going to be conservative and say XF45 but if the luster is there... AU50. Great piece! >>


    image Great looking coin though image
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Nice!image
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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    I also thought of 45 before reading other opinions. What a beautiful example of an early half dollar!
    Paul
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would grade it somewhere between EF-45 and AU-53 depending upon the luster. The 1805 Draped Bust half dollar is a lot tougher than both the 1806 and 1807, and when it is well struck, as this piece is, it is more attractive. Most of the 1805 half dollars have sharper detail than the 1806 and '07 pieces because they were more sharply struck.
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45
    may the fonz be with you...always...
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin.
    I like her as a 50
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • AuroraRaritiesAuroraRarities Posts: 167
    Beautiful coin! I would grade it EF45 based on the photos. Very desirable, whatever the number!
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for all the comments ... she's a looker, that's for sure.

    Damn some of these girls get expensive! image

    As for the grade:

    NGC graded her as an EF45, and I agree. She has claims to a higher grade, and maybe worthy, but I like her as a solid, attractive 45. Luster just isn't quite enough IMO, and she isn't quite as wholesome as it might take otherwise.





    “We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”

    Todd - BHNC #242
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,055 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just look at that pretty old girl!! I'll go with AU-50. VERY nice!!

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  • BustHalfBrianBustHalfBrian Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just look at that pretty old girl!! I'll go with AU-50. VERY nice!!

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    ohmygawd, I love this! imageimageimageimageimage Definitely using it sometime (hope you don't mind).

    That movie is classic!

    And OP, even with the "funky" surfaces, she still is a well-struck, well-preserved Bustie! Hang onto her! image
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