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AU-58+ -- Anyone upgrading their slider set to the new grade level?

Top AU58 is no longer top AU grade.
Who's upgrading to the plus?
Who's upgrading to the plus?
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hahaha
this is probably the only time i can say this and it not be in spiteful context
i hope your coins don't grade too high!
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Member, Society of Silver Dollar Collectors.
Looking for PCGS AU58+ 1901-P, 1896-O, & 1894-O
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What is the process for determining if a pile of AU 58's qualify for the plus?
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
<< <i>OK - I'll bite.
What is the process for determining if a pile of AU 58's qualify for the plus? >>
Uh, you mail them and a check to California and see what happens?
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<< <i>OK - I'll bite.
What is the process for determining if a pile of AU 58's qualify for the plus? >>
Uh, you mail them and a check to California and see what happens? >>
<< <i>An AU58+ set? Now THAT would be an accomplishment. >>
For what? Getting the most black "+"'s on your insert labels?
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I couldn't pass up a 58+ a few months ago,
even though I wasn't searching for one.
I was looking at Heritage Live for SLQ's to
upgrade my set, and a nice 1930-P in 58+
was just smiling at me... Had to take her home !!
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https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
<< <i>What's next? MS70+? >>
No it has been stated many times MS69 and MS70 coins are not eligible for + grades.
And it has been proven already that in some cases coins going for the AU58+ can and do end up as MS coins.
<< <i>Can we assume an AU58+ is the same as an AU59? >>
No, that would be the same as assuming an MS65+ is the same as MS66.
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<< <i>Can we assume an AU58+ is the same as an AU59? >>
No, that would be the same as assuming an MS65+ is the same as MS66. >>
No. There's a big difference. PCGS doesn't use the AU59 grade while they do use the MS66 grade. An MS65+ can be considered to be an MS65.5 since it's half way to the next higher grade just as an AU58+ can be considered an AU59 which is half way to the next higher grade above AU58.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Lance.
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<< <i>Can we assume an AU58+ is the same as an AU59? >>
No, that would be the same as assuming an MS65+ is the same as MS66. >>
No. There's a big difference. PCGS doesn't use the AU59 grade... >>
Yet. I was waiting for this response.
My icon IS my coin. It is a gem 1949 FBL Franklin.
Member, Society of Silver Dollar Collectors.
Looking for PCGS AU58+ 1901-P, 1896-O, & 1894-O
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Here's a pre + era AU58... How do these two coins differ
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<< <i>Just get a au58 cac, means same thing >>
True as CAC doesn't consider the + when stickering...
So a AU58+ is just being reviewed for being a solid AU58.
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<< <i>Just get a au58 cac, means same thing >>
True as CAC doesn't consider the + when stickering...
So a AU58+ is just being reviewed for being a solid AU58. >>
Being reviewed and being valued on the open market are two totally different things.
<< <i>I won't try. I'm afraid some will come back MS.
Lance. >>
Can you specify a maximum grade?
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<< <i>I won't try. I'm afraid some will come back MS.
Lance. >>
Can you specify a maximum grade?
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Every time you buy or sell a coin, there's a minimum of a 10% of the selling price (could be quite a bit more) that is going into someone else's pocket.
So you lose this fee when you bought your first coin, again on the second coin, and a third time when you sell the first coin. If you bought a nice coin in the first place and have luck timing the market, you can still make money, but for most of us, that's the exception, not the rule.
I rarely resubmit either, for similar reasons. I think too many people get so hung up with the marketing, that they lose sight of the fact that they are buying / selling the coin.
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<< <i>What's next? MS70+? >>
No it has been stated many times MS69 and MS70 coins are not eligible for + grades.
And it has been proven already that in some cases coins going for the AU58+ can and do end up as MS coins.
But it was also stated many times that 2009 UHRs would not be designated PL, that no-grades would not be given a details grade, that no-grades would not be holdered, that plus grades would not be given, etc.
I guess I'm just saying that things change and maybe at some future date there will be ......... MS69+, MS71s? Who knows.
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<< <i>What's next? MS70+? >>
No it has been stated many times MS69 and MS70 coins are not eligible for + grades.
And it has been proven already that in some cases coins going for the AU58+ can and do end up as MS coins.
And lowly nasty MS60's and 61's are such dogs they can't merit a + in any circumstance....
Eric
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<< <i>What's next? MS70+? >>
No it has been stated many times MS69 and MS70 coins are not eligible for + grades.
And it has been proven already that in some cases coins going for the AU58+ can and do end up as MS coins.
But it was also stated many times that 2009 UHRs would not be designated PL, that no-grades would not be given a details grade, that no-grades would not be holdered, that plus grades would not be given, etc.
I guess I'm just saying that things change and maybe at some future date there will be ......... MS69+, MS71s? Who knows. >>
Who Knows maybe it's all aimed to get us to accept the computer grading 100 point scale that was discussed years ago.
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<< <i>Can we assume an AU58+ is the same as an AU59? >>
Doesn't the "+" indicate a coin which is in the top 30% for "the grade"? Meaning a "high end" AU58?
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<< <i>Can we assume an AU58+ is the same as an AU59? >>
Doesn't the "+" indicate a coin which is in the top 30% for "the grade"? Meaning a "high end" AU58? >>
As long as they don't use the AU59 grade, the next higher grade is MS60 so it could mean a 58+, 59, or 59+. This is just speculation on my part for discussion purposes of course.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire