Experimented with Melt and Pour
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Update:
Came across a Map gas TS4000 touch head for $2 at a flea market and purchased a tank of map gas and it works fine.
Outside, I fluxed the ceramic cruciple, put in 5 grams of silver granuals and in a short bit they melted. Did a little pour into a small wooden cavity and next a 12 gram pour. Melting a small piece of a bar as well.
Very crude, but I'm sort of liken these. I'll remelt to make them smoother.
I'd rather have a few of these crude nuggets than junk birthday bars and may stamp them.
My Apmex 2 oz clone of an ASE marked Copy is next to go.
Came across a Map gas TS4000 touch head for $2 at a flea market and purchased a tank of map gas and it works fine.
Outside, I fluxed the ceramic cruciple, put in 5 grams of silver granuals and in a short bit they melted. Did a little pour into a small wooden cavity and next a 12 gram pour. Melting a small piece of a bar as well.
Very crude, but I'm sort of liken these. I'll remelt to make them smoother.
I'd rather have a few of these crude nuggets than junk birthday bars and may stamp them.
My Apmex 2 oz clone of an ASE marked Copy is next to go.
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Very cool! Let's see some pics!
What does your crucible look like? Also need to see the finished product, of course.
Cool. Do take some pics or videos.
You can purchase reuseable graphite molds in different shapes and sized on ebay (which you probably already knew that).
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<< <i>Fun experiment, but you just lost 1/2 your money. >>
Wait till you try to sell these "home made bars"
The crucible is just one of those 1 and 2oz ceramic saucers with the tong grip holder.
Sounds like work, but something I would like to try...wish I had that kind of time.
Are there issues with melt and sell?
Really surprised I don't see more folks make their own Monarch/Propsector type home pours. I'm just playing, but I still consider it silver- sellable on ebay for anything I melt, eh? A guy on ebay sells some small ones.
Likely more effort for the return, rather then just plain timing good buys and sells. (like buying today!)
<< <i>Are there issues with melt and sell? >>
Most folks just don't trust any and everybody melting stuff and selling it. Could be .9999 fine silver, could be a polished lead bar.
<< <i>Likely more effort for the return... >>
probably, but it's fun.
Get on YouTube and spend some time looking at various dos and don'ts of other people melting and pouring.
One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy.
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One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy. >>
EXCELLENT advice!
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One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy. >>
EXCELLENT advice! >>
I wouldn't try this unless I could set something up out of doors.
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One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy. >>
EXCELLENT advice! >>
I wouldn't try this unless I could set something up out of doors. >>
Doesn't matter. The extinguisher is still an excellent advice.
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One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy. >>
EXCELLENT advice! >>
I wouldn't try this unless I could set something up out of doors. >>
Doesn't matter. The extinguisher is still an excellent advice. >>
Absolutely agree with the extinguisher idea but being outdoors diminished the chance of your house burning down and the ventilation is much better outside.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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One other note, always have a fire extinguisher handy. >>
EXCELLENT advice! >>
I wouldn't try this unless I could set something up out of doors. >>
Doesn't matter. The extinguisher is still an excellent advice. >>
Absolutely agree with the extinguisher idea but being outdoors diminished the chance of your house burning down and the ventilation is much better outside. >>
A charged garden hose would also be a good idea.
What happens when you would try to sell this homemade blob of silver?
I would think if you are able to sell it at all the buy price would be greatly lowered in order to pay for an assay charge?
I would think 9 out of 10 Coin Shops would not even want the hassell of buying a homemade poured bar.
So isn't it a losing propisition melting this silver?
Just asking, GrandAm
I take replies serious and appreciate everyones info. This and many avenues in PMs are interesting topics to me, and I investigate things, and the world is absolutely full of potential possibilities. :-)
<< <i>What is the advantage of melting silver that is marked as .999 or a weight stamped on it by a recognized company?
----Not neccessarily any, until I obtained enough junk silver which made me think of what to do with it. Experimentation, or presents, is all I'm doing. Could be fun
-----But seriously, one could convert junk silver into 'something' to resell for more.....
What happens when you would try to sell this homemade blob of silver?
----I won't be selling any blobs or junk so no biggie, but one could sell a dirty sock on ebay, eh. Now, if you did something nice, using low cost silver, I believe there is an unlimited market for the right-minded path to utilize. I'd buy it if the price where right and it was nice.
Something nice can sell in my thinking in this new world of silver. If you made them simple, but nice, and gained a rep as genuine silver seller, then why not. Isn't that what Prospector did? Now just expand the concept a smig beyond poured bars box. The possibilities are endless.
I would think if you are able to sell it at all the buy price would be greatly lowered in order to pay for an assay charge?
----Yep, I agree. Who actually does this on small pieces now? (Ahh, and what if you felt confident of the seller?)
I would think 9 out of 10 Coin Shops would not even want the hassell of buying a homemade poured bar.
---Yep, Likely right. You've seen the variations in coin shops. I wouldn't even want to bother with 9 of them. (Does leave 1 though. But there are a vast variety of selling establishements beyond coin shops, ebay, etc. Like anything, you build your base wisely.)
So isn't it a losing propisition melting this silver?
---In a sole concept of just melting existing silver to make pours to a certain market, it would be harder. I think in this new time specifically, if one can provide some nice, unique, value-added bullion'ish items, create, market, sell correctly and go beyond the boundaries of this market, it would be a most winning venture possibility.
Just asking, GrandAm
--And, much appreciated too!
You could sell your personally-made and unmarked silver objects to people who know you personally and trust your statement as to what was used in it, but those people could never sell the objects to a coin shop without an assay or a very severe discount because they have no proof as to the contents.
"The guy who sold this to me told me it is .999 fine!"
Doesn't hold any water in the marketplace. Some people lie.
<< <i>Some people lie. >>
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<< <i>Doesn't hold any water in the marketplace. Some people lie. >>
In my experience, a LOT of people lie......sad, but true.... Cheers, RickO