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Breens Encyclopedia....How Crazy is tHIS!

ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,940 ✭✭✭✭✭
Go to page 205. Note Breen assigned a running number to every coin. From 1 (sommer islands shilling) to 8035 , a Hawaiian coin .......Now Breen must have seen the great irony and amazing coincidence that coin number 1824 is an 1824/22 large cent -------and I'll add that I've spent the last hour with this book and will say flat out that if you are collecting or studying US Coins that book is a "must have".

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,923 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The information in that book is mind boggling. I cannot imagine having that many coins
    at my disposal to study.

    bobimage
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,741 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The information in that book is mind boggling. I cannot imagine having that many coins
    at my disposal to study.

    bobimage >>



    Breen had a photographic memory. When you combine that with the access he had to major collections, his time working for major dealers in the 1950s and doing consulting work for auction houses after that, you have huge store of knowledge.

    Breen's encyclopedia has its issues, but no one else has been able to cover as much ground has he did in one volume. Yes, he did overestimate the rarity of some items, but that is part of the game. When you declare that something is rare and therefore perhaps valuable, collectors start checking their holdings to spot new examples. As that process continues the rarity issue is often settled.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a staggering work. Yeah, there are mistakes, but it is humanly impossible to record that many facts and get them all right. If someone thinks they can do better, let them try.......
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,788 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wouldn't it be great if it were updated and republished with today's foremost experts contributing to this effort?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    haha, that is a nice irony ambro51.

    i concur with it being a must have.

    it is awe-inspiring when i sit with it in front of me to attempt to get my mind wrapped around what it would take for me to even imagine attempting something like this.

    for those that haven't noticed, there is much more to be amazed about in his encyclopedia aside from just coins.
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    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • Besides the coin descriptions, be sure not to miss the material at the beginning of each chapter and subchaprter. Breen takes some poetic license to editorialize on what he beleives were the motivation of the early mint personel. In some cases, it would be impossible to know what Breen says he knows about early mint thought processes, but he does make every effort to support his opinions when he can; other times he doesn't bother.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No doubt about, it's a great book !!!
    Timbuk3
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,142 ✭✭✭✭✭
    its good for reference and a few other things, thats about it. jmo
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,678 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I bought the book from him at a Long Beach Show around 1990. He was a funky looking old guy who loved talking about coins, irrespective of their values. That was the only time I met him.
    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."


  • << <i>and I must add, just don't rely too heavily on it when it comes to what he states is rare..........you will be ruined. >>



    Exactly. I wouldn't put a lot of faith in a lot of things that Breen has said.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,955 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I sold mine for a $100 profit. That's all I have to say about that.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • <<Breen had a photographic memory. >>

    True. But some of those memories dated back to his teenage years. Some he couldn't reme,ber the source and some he was unable to judge their accuracy.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    The ANA museum still has some journal of his tucked away in their rare books room.
    Some YN's and I were looking through it and found some handwritten notes on each date of early large cents previously undiscovered.
    They didn't let us keep them image
  • Those journals should be off limits to YN's.
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a good reference book. Certainly not as good as the bible, but who am I to judge ?
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The ANA museum still has some journal of his tucked away in their rare books room.
    Some YN's and I were looking through it and found some handwritten notes on each date of early large cents previously undiscovered.
    They didn't let us keep them image >>



    no iphone pics !!!!!!
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    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -

  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those journals should be off limits to YN's. >>


    And why is that? image
    An allusion to his tendencies later in life?

    @Lance, nope, just got a plain 'ol dumbphone image From what I recall they were just the date and some varieties he had cataloged. Nothing spectacular or earthshaking.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>From what I recall they were just the date and some varieties he had cataloged. Nothing spectacular or earthshaking. >>



    suuuuure, keep the secrets all to yourself image
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    <--- look what's behind the mask! - cool link 1/NO ~ 2/NNP ~ 3/NNC ~ 4/CF ~ 5/PG ~ 6/Cert ~ 7/NGC 7a/NGC pop~ 8/NGCF ~ 9/HA archives ~ 10/PM ~ 11/NM ~ 12/ANACS cert ~ 13/ANACS pop - report fakes 1/ACEF ~ report fakes/thefts 1/NCIS - Numi-Classes SS ~ Bass ~ Transcribed Docs NNP - clashed coins - error training - V V mm styles -



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    << <i>Those journals should be off limits to YN's. >>


    And why is that? image
    An allusion to his tendencies later in life? >>



    Absolutely. I wouldn't let mine touch them and I'd be pretty pissed off if they happened to do so under someone else's watch. That's why.

    And he wrote Greek Love in 1964, it wasn't a later in life thing for him. He was just convicted when he was older.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Those journals should be off limits to YN's. >>


    And why is that? image
    An allusion to his tendencies later in life?
    >>



    "Later in life"--yeah, right.
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,644 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wouldn't it be great if it were updated and republished with today's foremost experts contributing to this effort? >>



    Not likely. 10,000 copies at $100 each would still not be enough to pay for all that effort.

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