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2012 NLCS - Giants vs Cardinals, Game 7: THE GIANTS WIN THE PENNANT!!!

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry to disappoint...not a troll, just tired of Giants fans who whine about Holliday/Scutaro instead of being glad they won the game.
    I suppose the suggestion you made about "throwing at Holliday's gassed up head" was just good natured fun...

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭


    << <i>I suppose the suggestion you made about "throwing at Holliday's gassed up head" was just good natured fun... >>



    I didn't say that.


    My official position on this is: Retaliate by winning.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My mistake. You weren't the one who said that. Apologies.
    At any rate I look forward to a good series....but I have concerns about retaliation for the slide incident.

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    With a 1st inning hit, Giants just took "perfect game" and "no hitter" off the list of possible embarrassments they may face today.


    14 pitches to get through 1-4 in the batting order, and Lohse is off to a smooth start.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Cain's all messed up. 4 pitches into the game, and he's got a HBP and fell off the mound throwing a pitch to Beltran. Fortunately the 6th pitch was a double play grounder.

    Edit to add:

    9 pitches to end the inning. Outside of the 2nd and 4th pitches of the game for Matt, good beginning for his day.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Wow, Beltran's out of the game after 1 inning. Possibly a HUGE break for the Giants.

    However, Matt Carpenter (Beltran's replacement) is 4-4 against Matt Cain, so we'll see.
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  • lanemyer85lanemyer85 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I have concerns about retaliation for the slide incident. >>



    you should be used to it by now as a Cardinal fan, shouldn't you? What with the Cardinals having a 72 total edge in bean balls thrown as any other Major League team since LaRussa's tenure. And considering Holliday has shown a pattern of these types of slides he'll get his. Eventually. Even if it has to wait until next year. Personally I'm pulling for the Giants to take a 8-0 lead into the 7th and Cain reintroduces the David Wright incident on Holliday. Then we'll get to witness the always enjoyable Chris Carpenter first out of the dugout to rush the mound where he'll, as always, push and shove and run his gob and fail to throw a punch. See Carpenter is a noted tough guy in Jorts Nation because he once played hockey 20 years ago at a level that didn't involve fighting or body checking.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2nd inning pitcher summary:

    Top: Lohse works a little harder, 25 pitches to get through 5-9, with a couple of walks and a strikeout. Dude looks like he can do this all day long.

    Bottom: Cain gives up his first hit, but only has to spend 11 bullets to get through 4-7. Ground out, base hit, fly out, pop out.


    Ok, this inning-by-inning update is preventing me from getting any work done at work, so I'll cut it out.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    THUMP. Apparently Beltran just ran into the clubhouse and put a different jersey on. 2 run shot gives the Cards the lead in the 3rd.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> I have concerns about retaliation for the slide incident. >>



    you should be used to it by now as a Cardinal fan, shouldn't you? What with the Cardinals having a 72 total edge in bean balls thrown as any other Major League team since LaRussa's tenure. And considering Holliday has shown a pattern of these types of slides he'll get his. Eventually. Even if it has to wait until next year. Personally I'm pulling for the Giants to take a 8-0 lead into the 7th and Cain reintroduces the David Wright incident on Holliday. Then we'll get to witness the always enjoyable Chris Carpenter first out of the dugout to rush the mound where he'll, as always, push and shove and run his gob and fail to throw a punch. See Carpenter is a noted tough guy in Jorts Nation because he once played hockey 20 years ago at a level that didn't involve fighting or body checking. >>



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    Get over it bro. Scutaro has a sore tushy. There was no malice involved in that slide.

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    That 1 run deficit looks so huge right now from a Giants fan standpoint. Lohse looks like he's got the Giants hitters under his complete control.

    Pence can't hit, and when he makes contact it's a double play grounder. Posey won't see strikes tonight.

    A lot of LOB nonsense.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    11 left on base for the Giants. I think I've heard this one before.... image
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Cards have had LOB problems all season... frustrating.

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    It's not hurting them right now though.

    Impossible for me to enjoy Cain's performance when the offence can't do anything to back him up. Cain's used to it though.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    3-1? Ballgame.

    Giants are going to head into the clubhouse to wait out the rain delay, and think about how much they suck. Once they return, zombie time.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Lets see if I can predict the future....

    Bottom of the 7th: John Jay = fly out. Inning over.

    Top of 8th: Blanco strikes out. Crawford strikes out. Pinch hitter Aubrey Huff grounds out.
    Bottom of 8th: Carpenter flys out. Holliday base hit. pinch hitter grounds into double play.

    Top of 9th: Pagan strikes out. Scutaro grounds out. Sandoval grounds out. Game over.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    Giants were great tonight...at sucking.

    0-7 hitting with RISP and you wonder how they lost tonight.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    3 1/2 hours later...your predictions are mostly accurate.

    Motte goes into auto pilot mode, & it's game over.


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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants (1) vs Cardinals (2), Game 3: Giants stranded all night long.

    Cain got Cain'd again. What else is new?

    So, MadBum has been officially demoted from the playoff rotation. Lincecum goes for Game 4, Zito goes for Game 5. Bum will probably be available out of the pen though.

    Yeah, Zito facing a team full of powerful righties. That'll go over well.

    Still, it won't matter how good Lincecum or Zito do if the offense can't get going.

    Cards have Adam Wainwright going tomorrow. Vs the Nats, he threw 5.2 innings of 1 run ball in game 1, but then got ganked for 6 runs on 3 homers in 2.1 ip in Game 5.

    I kinda doubt the Giants can deliver the same sort of ganking that the Nats can.

    Game 5 will probably be Lynn again. Lynn crashed his car in game 1, but Bumgarner's car actually caught fire and blew up.


    Well, if the Giants can avoid getting swept in StL, they can bring the series back to SF for Voggy in Game 6 and Cain in Game 7.

    Come on Giants, get it back to SF!
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    For what it's worth, (according to folks who were there), the atmosphere in the Giants' clubhouse isn't one of "doom and gloom" but of a dumbfounded "how'd we let that one get away?"

    Then again, "doom and gloom" is exactly what settled in after game 2 of the NLDS and we saw what the Giants did with that, they flipped it around.

    Giants acknowledge that they beat themselves in this game. Good, they know what the problem was. They didn't get pounded by another team, they simply failed to execute. Now, what they do with that information is the question.

    Can Timmy the Starter continue what Timmy the Long-Reliever began? Can the Zito continue to be an offensive spark (!?!?) for the Giants?
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    this is a game of psychological warfare, now.

    the Cards shouldn't even be here, blah blah blah.....they've been rewriting history for the past two postseasons, while every fan of every other team continues to scratch their heads in disbelief.

    what is it about these freekin guys? Pujols walks, they shrug.

    the Giant Ants look like a loose bunch of kids in the dugout, regardless of the score. just bouncing around.

    reminds me of a Pony League playoff game when i assisted coaching my son's team several years ago. we were the bouncy guys, with lots of smiles and fist bumps and the rival team was a bunch of scruffy kids with short batting strokes and a pitcher who stood about 4 foot 2 and threw junk.

    bouncies got shut out. season over.

    they better make those putzes pitch to Buster. i can barely stomach the thought of another scruffy kid invasion in the Fall Classic.
  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants (1) vs Cardinals (2), Game 4: Lincecum vs Wainwright

    Posey and Sandoval swap places in the lineup, and Pence gets pushed to 6th, batting behind Sanchez, who's in to catch Lincecum. Belt sits.

    Also, Beltran isn't starting for the Cards today.

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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Go Cards! Sorry, but I live in Northern California and it would hurt to lose to the Giants. Hoping for a good game.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lincecum gone after 4 2/3 innings. Wain-o on the other hand looks to have good control tonight. His fastball was shaky in his previous start...

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    One step forward, two steps back. I'm not sure which team has a crappier offensive, the Niners or Giants. And when we thought Timmy was back all of the sudden Tim Lincecrap shows up.

    Considering that Barry Zito starts tomorrow if the Giants don't score 12 runs in the first two innings (they won't but that's obvious) this series is over and Fox Sports craps their pants more after having to stomach another non coast World Series.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Considering that Barry Zito starts tomorrow if the Giants don't score 12 runs in the first two innings (they won't but that's obvious) this series is over and Fox Sports craps their pants more after having to stomach another non coast World Series.

    I hope all the right and left coasters won't mind if I say that I'd love it if that happened.
    Plus it'll be just that much sweeter that the Jankees won't be in the big show...

    #Go Cards-12 in '12

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Sometimes the Giants make me hate the fact that I'm a Giants fan.


    Behind the 8-ball. Zito on the hill and 27 outs away from the end of the season.

    Maybe someone can cook up another speech and spark another 3 game winning streak?
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Waino looked great last night. I was afraid his arm was "done" for the year after the Nats whooped up on him in Game 5 of the NLDS.

    Shane

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm hoping we can close it out tonight at home, otherwise I'll get very nervous...a momentum swing and going back to SF for 2 games could spell big trouble.

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Wearing my Giants jersey to work today. I also arranged my Giants cards in order of position for tonight's game, so we'll see if all my superstitious crap makes any difference. image



    Saw this on Twitter today, LOL...

    Zito, arriving at the park:
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Today's Game 5 lineup, via my Giants rookie card collection:

    Lineup returned to the way it was for Games 1-3.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Zito flat out owned us tonight, plus the LOB monster hit us early. Dang it... now we have to go to SF an face an energized Giant team with a history of coming back from adversity...image

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants (2) vs Cardinals (3), Game 5: Barry Zito saves the day!

    Wow. Just.... wow. For the first time in his Giants career, he pitched like a man truly worthy of the contract the Giants gave him. During his time in SF, he's been the goat, the "oh crap, Zito's pitching", he's been the polar oposite of young stud Tim Lincecum who entered the league with a massive bang. Now, in 2012, it's Zito who's the show-stopper and Lincecum who's the "oh crap, Lincecum's pitching" guy.

    I don't think I ever thought I'd see the day when Zito would outperform Lincecum while both were in Giants jerseys.

    Starting on August 7th, when Barry Zito pitched against Lance Lynn in StL, the Giants have been 13-0 in the last 13 games started by Barry Zito.

    The older players on the team have lead the way (Scutaro, Vogelsong, Zito). Now, the series moves to SF and into the capable hands of Ryan Vogelsong.

    Now, moving to SF may not be an "advantage", so to speak. Giants have not been sharp at home. 23-20 (counting the post-season) since the AS Break.

    The Giants are 11-5 at home behind Vogelsong, and 10-6 behind Cain.

    Hopefully the Giants can get past Carpenter again.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    This team confuses me. When everybody had high hopes for Lincecum he lays the biggest egg in the Midwest. When everybody expected Game 5 to be the team's season finale Barry Zito pitches one of the best games of his career. I don't know if there's a momentum shift but at least the series lives on for another game while Detroit rests up their players.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Mythbusters + Cain & Posey = hmm....
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  • frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,097 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That was an amazing video of Matt Cain. He threw a hole in the pizza!

    Shane

  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants (2) vs Cardinals (3), Game 6: Vogelsong tries to save the day vs Carpenter.

    Backs ever against the wall, the Giants hand the ball to Vogelsong to save the season. He did it in the NLDS, and he's going to have to try and do it in the NLCS as well.

    Giants roughed up Carpenter in Game 2, but Carpenter's a proven vet with a long post-season pedigree, so if both pitchers are on their game, this will be a nail-biter. If not, then who knows.


    Giants are 1-3 at AT&T Park during the post-season so far (vs 4-2 on the road). Hopefully they'll figure out how to locate the advantage in playing in front of the home crowd.

    Win, and we play another game. Lose, and the season's over.

    Go Giants!
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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I will be at Game 6 this afternoon, pretty excited about it. We will see.........
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Today's Game 6 lineup, via my Giants rookie card collection:

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    WIN TODAY!
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Well, we're back to square one. One game for all the marbles Monday.
    Lohse vs. Cain...

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants (3) vs Cardinals (3), Game 6: Seven strong for Vogelsong! Giants force Game 7!


    Great win for the Giants tonight, but the Cards sure helped with sloppy defense and a shadow version of Chris Carpenter on the hill.

    All today's victory does is build "momentum" if you believe in that sort of stuff, stave off elimination, and force a winner-take-all Game 7.

    Game 7. Matt Cain, on the mound, in AT&T Park. Cainer's the ace, and Lohse is theirs. This has the makings of a pitching duel, if both guys are on their game.


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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Considering that Barry Zito starts tomorrow if the Giants don't score 12 runs in the first two innings (they won't but that's obvious) this series is over

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Considering that Barry Zito starts tomorrow if the Giants don't score 12 runs in the first two innings (they won't but that's obvious) this series is over

    Another visionary sports prediction from WTCG! image >>



    Hey if you've ever watched Barry Zito pitch as a Giant you'd make the same prediction. That Game 5 performance was seriously one of his best ever in the last 6 years.
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭
    After his Game 6 gem, Ryan Vogelsong is finally getting the national attention he deserves and in some ways he's becoming a cult idol. The story of his career is the stuff of feel good movies and in many respects you can't help but like the guy.

    Game 7 tomorrow. It's supposed to rain for most of tomorrow so we'll see if the weather holds up.
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, if the Redbirds show the same offense we've seen the last 2 games, you Giants fans might as well order those WS tix now.
    I hope it's at least competitive. Geez. This series should have ended in STL....but someone forgot to tell the Card hitters that. image

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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    Boch says that MadBum and the coaching staff discovered a "major flaw" in Bumgarner's mechanics and made a correction. After throwing a few bullpen sessions, they're confident that it's fixed.

    Hopefully Cain will make it unnecessary to tap a starting pitcher for relief innings.
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  • digicatdigicat Posts: 8,551 ✭✭
    2012 NLCS - Giants vs Cardinals, Game 7: Cain vs Lohse. The final battle for the NL.

    Today's Game 7 lineup, via my Giants rookie card collection:

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    WIN TODAY!



    A few notes on today's game...

    Lohse has been a solid pitcher all year. His road splits are a little worse than his home though..
    home: 2.79 era, 1.083 whip, .226/.270/.331 against
    road: 3.41 era, 1.117 whip, .251/.279/.405 against

    Cain:
    home: 2.03 era, 0.904 whip, .207/.244/.304 against
    road: 3.56 era, 1.178 whip, .238/.302/.416 against



    The first time the Giants saw Lohse this year was in game 3 of this series.
    10/17 at StL = 5.2 ip, 7 hits, 1 run. WIN.

    The Cards have seen Cain 3 times this year:

    5/17 in SF= 6 ip, 8 hits, 4 runs (1 homer). WIN.
    8/6 at StL = 5.2 ip, 8 hits, 5 runs (1 homer) LOSS.
    10/17 at StL = 6.2 ip, 6 hits, 3 runs (1 homer) LOSS.

    Lohse walked 5 in Game 3, and the Giants couldn't cash anything in. Gary Darling's known to be an umpire with a wide strikezone, so that might keep walks to a minimum tonight.

    This SHOULD be a close game.

    I may not have any fingernails left before the first pitch tonight!
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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,898 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm curious to see if Holliday will start tonight. He was having some back spasms/stiffness that kept him out of #6.
    If he does, no doubt he will be roundly booed by the SF faithful...

    Edit to add... speaking of strike zones... what was your opinion of the zone last night?

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  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    Would love to see both starting pitchers batting in the eighth inning.

    Hopefully Cain won't give up any HR's or allow a pitcher to reach baseimage
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