I picked up an 1893 CC for $8.00!

UtahCoin

Who said anything about a coin....

mkman123

HAHAHAAH you tricked me!

Buzzybest

Nice! Congratulations for being the biggest tease on the internet tonight!

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>HAHAHAAH you tricked me! >>


+1

coindeuce

You over payed for that by $5.00 !

savoyspecial

You also, in doing this, obtained a nice autograph of Theodore 'Bob' Hofer who was the seventh Superintendent of the Carson City Mint as well as the only person to have been employed by that same Mint in 1870 when coining began as well as in 1893 when the Mint was closed down

Neat item!

UtahCoin

<< <i>You also, in doing this, obtained a nice autograph of Theodore 'Bob' Hofer who was the seventh Superintendent of the Carson City Mint as well as the only person to have been employed by that same Mint in 1870 when coining began as well as in 1893 when the Mint was closed down

Neat item! >>



Really? I had no idea. That is very cool to know.

Thanks for the information!

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lcoopie

Penmanship seems to be a lost art

coindeuce

The abbreviation of California on the bottom line is so 19th century.

ricko

Cool historical item....and a steal at that price (IMO). Cheers, RickO

MsMorrisine

<< <i>Penmanship seems to be a lost art >>




cursive!


they didn't teach cursive except for a a little time in a few classes in my kids school just to ""satisfy"" complaints it wasn't taught.

johnny9434

congrats, you got our attention

BigA

That IS cool....

NumisOxide

I got one similiar from Littleton coin company several years back for "free" using their profit sharing points I earned by overpaying for things.

Wasn't he involved in a scandal with the mint or something?

savoyspecial

>>Wasn't he involved in a scandal with the mint or something?>>


From all I have read Bob Hofer was admired for his honesty. You are correct that in the 1890's about $75,000 worth of gold was missing from the CC Mint(replaced with copper)

There was also a suggestion that this heist had something do with the comfy relationship between the CC Mint and the Bullion & Exchange Bank but to my knowledge Hofer was never implicated. Jacob Klein, the bank President, however eventually stepped down amist a cloud of suspicion

DaveG

Nice pickup!

For anyone who's interested, there's a short bio of T.R. Hofer on the Carson City Coin Collectors of America website.

In 1872 (at age 19 and about three years after he moved to Nevada) he married Florence Evelyn Kingsley, daughter of Henry Kingsley (reported at the time to be a prominent Nevadan). They had one son (T.R. Hofer, Jr.) and four daughters. Following his career at the Mint, Hofer became a prominent insurance agent and mine owner.

T.R. Hofer, Jr. became postmaster of Carson City in 1900. In 1899 he had married Elizabeth Stewart Fox, the daughter of A.W. Fox and granddaughter of US Senator Stewart.

The family was reported to have been quite prominent in Nevada in the early part of the 20th century.

Does anyone know if the family is still prominent?


The Bullion and Exchange Bank was, in 1882, the successor to the Carson City Savings Bank. The Bullion and Exchange Bank was restructured into the State Bank and Trust Company in 1903. Unfortunately, the new bank failed in 1907. Interestingly, the Bancroft Library of the Univ. of CA at Berkeley has a lot of the bank's records.

As far as I know, Hofer's autograph is the easiest to obtain of any 19th century mint director.

If you're interested, these checks are available on eBay and fairly inexpensive.




edited to add: Gosh - someone's doing research on Carson City mint officers. Who knows, RYK, maybe a book is being updated?

dcarr

I collect bank checks because they are interesting, not very expensive, and make a nice display when you put them up on the wall. I prefer checks from western states and/or those with revenue (tax) stamps.

I've seen quite a few of the Hofer-signed bank drafts (the light tan colored ones). I've even seen nearly-full ledger books of them. When a draft was cashed or a certificate redeemed, Hofer would paste the cancelled document onto the corresponding stub that was bound in the ledger book (using water-soluble glue). I've seen fewer of the Hofer-signed pink Certificates of Deposit, but I did recently buy and sell a book with about 180 of them in it. I kept a few that I wanted and sold the rest.

Here is my collection of Carson City checks:

Wells Fargo & Co Bank unused check circa 1870 drawn on the account of the Mutual Benefit Association of the Virginia & Truckee Railroad, with orange 2-cent revenue stamp type RN-G1:


Carson City Savings Bank unused sheet of four, circa 1880 with vignette of an 1870 [CC] $10 Gold Eagle (I've also seen a few of these used):


Carson City Savings Bank, early (fancy) style $26 draft with Native vignette, 1884, signed by Hofer and endorsed by Melvin Edwards, Colorado Secretary of State:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $500 draft to John Wagner (Carson City brewery owner), 1885, signed by Hofer and endorsed by Wagner:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $65 draft to Halvor Nelson (Supreme Secretary Washington DC), 1886, signed by Hofer and endorsed by Nelson:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $2,500 Certificate of Deposit for the infamous Jacob Klein, 1895, signed by Hofer and endorsed by Klein:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $10 Certificate of Deposit for T.R. Hofer Jr. (son), 1895, signed by Hofer and son:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, monstrous $20,000 Certificate of Deposit (at 8% interest) for Anglo-Californian Bank, 1895, signed by Hofer (no endorsement on back):

If the Carson City Savings Bank was taking on this kind of debt, no wonder they went belly-up 12 years later.
Note: This was the only type-written certificate out of about 180 in the book.

Bullion & Exchange Bank, $532 draft to Cashier Wells Fargo Company Express, 1896, signed by Hofer with Wells Fargo stamp on back:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $2,883 Certificate of Deposit by T.R. Hofer for H.F. D'angberg, 1896, signed by Hofer and endorsed by D'angberg:

H.F. Dangberf owned an enormous ranch in the Carson Valley and he founded the town of Minden Nevada. The popular TV Show "Bonanza" was loosely-based on his character.

Bullion & Exchange Bank, $99 Certificate of Deposit for "U.S. Mint" (Frank Fettic), 1896, signed by Hofer and endorsed by P.W. Leansickle ?:

Frank Fettic owned a "Gentleman's" saloon in nearby Genoa Nevada.

Bullion & Exchange Bank, $12 Certificate of Deposit for A.C. Hofer & Bro., 1896, signed by T.R. Hofer and endorsed by A.C. Hofer:


Bullion & Exchange Bank, $900 Certificate of Deposit for Louis Deluchi, 1901, with orange 2-cent revene stamp type RN-X7:

The practice of taxing bank documents ended around 1901. So there is likely not a lot othese with tax stamp.

I've also got a few checks from nearby Virginia [City] Nevada.

Agency of the Bank of California unused check drawn on the account of Haynie & Co., circa 1870, with orange 2-cent revenue stamp type RN-D7 (with "GOOD ONLY FOR - BANK CHECK"):


Agency of the Bank of California unused check drawn on the account Wadsworth Mill, circa 1870, with orange 2-cent revenue stamp type RN-D1:


Agency of the Bank of California $360 check drawn on the account of Virginia & Truckee Railroad, paid to Nevada Mill, 1876, with orange 2-cent revenue stamp type RN-G1:

Note: Check serial number 2 !

atarian

This was stamped 90 years to the day I was born.

NumisOxide

Quite a collection there dcarr. Thanks for sharing!

DaveG

That's an awesome collection!