Trade dollar pattern on ebay real or not?

rec78

I dont remember seeing many threads about patterns on this website. I do have a pattern but do not know much about them.

Could this 1873 trade dollar pattern possibly be real? If so isn't it a bargain at $595 ? ?

Are there any pattern collectors on the forum? Thanks for any info.

Bob

mkman123

Well let's consider

1. Low feedback
2. Poor feedback percentage
3. Not slabbed
4. Seller has no description, at least make a story up abt it
5. Never seen a pattern not cost over 1k

Pass

MsMorrisine

Here is a Goloid "J1564" from the same seller.


sometimes these pattern numbers are part of the eBay auto-fill. I'm not sure if that is or is not the case for these two.

oreville

TDN does not collect trade dollar patterns but would think he would be interested in affirming that this reputed pattern is a fake.

It looks like a poor quality fake based on the poor quality picture to me but I am NOT an expert on these.

Gotta love these double negatives.

Treashunt

It looks too 'funky' to me to be real.

Something strange about it

Steve27

IMO it's a fake (not a proof, poor strike)

CaptHenway

Chinese fake

MsMorrisine

JCMhouston

I don't think anyone would need to do a detailed analysis of this coin.

1. Raw alleged pattern dollar on ebay
2. Step away from the computer

MilkmanDan

Quite obviously fake. The reverse strike is very poor.

lordmarcovan

"Trade dollar pattern" and "eBay" are a frightening combination of terms.

Especially when there is no acronym like "PCGS" or "NGC" or at least "ANACS" in the title.

That right there would be enough for me, but let's add the points mkman123 enumerated:



<< <i>Well let's consider

1. Low feedback
2. Poor feedback percentage
3. Not slabbed
4. Seller has no description, at least make a story up abt it
5. Never seen a pattern not cost over 1k

Pass >>



And it just looks bad to me, too.

Not only would I pass on that auction, I'd run away ... quickly.

LindeDad

Haven't even got the first cup of wake up juice finished and I can tell it bogus is how bad it is.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Haven't even got the first cup of wake up juice finished and I can tell it bogus is how bad it is.
>>

michiganboy

Fake, and like others said a very poor one at that.

AUandAG

They are both fakes and were sold often on Ebay during the past few years. Both are
underweight and magnetic. Have seen and reported these for years but this is the first
I've seen in quite a while now with the Replica rules enhanced.

bob

CaptHenway

These started coming into the coin shop almost ten years ago. The first one came from somebody who had bought it while vacationing in CHina.