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mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-VDB-PCGS-MS-64-BN-Lincoln-Cent-Coin-JE304-/360489350117?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item53eed6f3e5

REALLY? Looks gross!! BUT Midlifecrisis will buy it as he loves his kool aid! imageimageimage j/k
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,819 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-VDB-PCGS-MS-64-BN-Lincoln-Cent-Coin-JE304-/360489350117?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item53eed6f3e5

    REALLY? Looks gross!! BUT Midlifecrisis will buy it as he loves his kool aid! imageimageimage j/k >>


    Not a very friendly thread, but here's your LINK anyways.

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    that is not a mint state coin.....my belief is that the slab has been tampered with (notice what looks like a saw or file mark on the lower left of the slab)



    proceed with caution (also be cautious when laying blame at the feet of PCGS when it may not be deserved)

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    the more i look at the coin what appears as file marks may be part of the top-loader that is layed on the scanner.....i withhold judgement.....it certainly doesnt look MS but if it is a scan rather than a photo the luster could appear muted

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  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,311 ✭✭✭✭
    hoping that was more 'elegantly stated' image

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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Something ain't right.
  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036 ✭


    << <i>that is not a mint state coin.....my belief is that the slab has been tampered with (notice what looks like a saw or file mark on the lower left of the slab)



    proceed with caution (also be cautious when laying blame at the feet of PCGS when it may not be deserved) >>



    That's a good catch SS , definately something up with that.
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Not really worth the effort to monkey around with a 64 BN 1909-VDB.

    Ed
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to the PCGS Certification Database, the requested certification number is defined as the following:
    COIN INFORMATION
    Cert Verification #: 19371931
    PCGS Coin #: 2423
    Date, mintmark: 1909 VDB
    Denomination: 1C
    Country: The United States of America
    Grade: MS64BN
    Mintage: 27,995,000
    PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $50
    Holder Type: Standard
    Population: 376
    Auction Appearances of This Coin
    None known
    Current PCGS Registry Sets
    None
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  • ColdHardCopperColdHardCopper Posts: 7
    Wow that is an ugly MS64
  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll pass...but thanks for thinking of me.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,538 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>According to the PCGS Certification Database, the requested certification number is defined as the following:
    COIN INFORMATION
    Cert Verification #: 19371931
    PCGS Coin #: 2423
    Date, mintmark: 1909 VDB
    Denomination: 1C
    Country: The United States of America
    Grade: MS64BN
    Mintage: 27,995,000
    PCGS Price GuideSM Value: $50
    Holder Type: Standard
    Population: 376
    Auction Appearances of This Coin
    None known
    Current PCGS Registry Sets
    None >>

    It must be a bargain since the seller has it listed for $60...must be a nice example too.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'll pass...but thanks for thinking of me. >>



    MLC, But it does look like a 225 year old colonial image
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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,884 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That sucker looks to have verdigris all over the reverse and doesn't look MS to me either...
    I've got about ten of these with similar damage that I'm trying to 'conserve'... Raw... Not worth grading and they'd be 'environmental damaged' if they slabbed i would guess..

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,550 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I'll pass...but thanks for thinking of me. >>



    MLC, But it does look like a 225 year old colonial image >>


    image
  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 9,122 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those are horrible scans of a coin that probably looks reasonably decent in-hand.
    Moonlight Mint
  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭
    Like I said nobody would bother messing with that coin, not worth it.
    Probably just a brown coin that looks ugly in the pics.

    Ed
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I actually think that might be an okay-looking piece that has just been horribly photographed. The stuff that looks to be corrosion is probably just blue toning IMO.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    tightbuddget, get it and submit to CAC, GO FOR THE GOLD imageimageimage
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    Yeah It don't look anywhere near a 64, maybe it turned in the holder.
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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,884 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>that is not a mint state coin.....my belief is that the slab has been tampered with (notice what looks like a saw or file mark on the lower left of the slab)



    proceed with caution (also be cautious when laying blame at the feet of PCGS when it may not be deserved) >>



    That's a good catch SS , definately something up with that. >>




    not really


    that is some kind of slide in stand.




    looks like active VDG on the rev.

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  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,467 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I actually think that might be an okay-looking piece that has just been horribly photographed. The stuff that looks to be corrosion is probably just blue toning IMO. >>



    I know what you're talking about... I've bought a few higher grade BN 1909 VDBs off eBay in 64BN-66BN over the past few years that had horrible looking auction photos/scans that turned out to be very attractive in hand. That said, I'm just not seeing that or any potential whatsoever with this particular example. The reverse looks very problematic... I almost want to buy it just to see how bad it really is image

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,884 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> The reverse looks very problematic... I almost want to buy it just to see how bad it really is image >>




    I was just thinking the same thing.


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  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks like crack marks at the center bottom
    Frank

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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
    The discoloration / halo surrounding the coin looks odd, maybe it's the lighting from the scanner.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,885 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the more i look at the coin what appears as file marks may be part of the top-loader that is layed on the scanner.....i withhold judgement.....it certainly doesnt look MS but if it is a scan rather than a photo the luster could appear muted >>

    This.

    Bad scan of a coin in some kind of slab album page, is my theory.

    I think it is probably still an ugly coin, but could technically be Mint State. Who knows.

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  • jokingjokerjokingjoker Posts: 88 ✭
    I think I found this coins sister.

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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,307 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Most likely the worst possible picture that could be shown of what very well may be an attractive, brown coin.
    John
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,246 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Something ain't right. >>

    image something does look totally off here
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That has to be a fake slab, a slab that has been opened or a Photoshop job.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone else notice that it is being sold by a PCGS Authorized dealer at least according to the listing.
    image
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Most likely the worst possible picture that could be shown of what very well may be an attractive, brown coin. >>



    +1

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