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Would you pay extra $$ for a Retro PCGS Doily holder

ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,195 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Now that we know the NGC Black retro holder is due out next month would you pay extra for a retro PCGS holder? Maybe a retro Doily for example?

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  • mingotmingot Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭
    would you pay extra for a "retro" morgan dollar example?

    (stamped copy, made in china)
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not pay extra, but I do like vintage items, and if given the choice, I would choose the retro look.
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I don't care for dollys and think most people only care about their rarity but I do perfer OGH and would chose that if it was an option.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No they already have too many promotional labels.
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  • phnataccphnatacc Posts: 367 ✭✭
    If given the choice for my personal collection... I'd have nothing but PCGS Rattler slabs and NGC Black.
  • dragondragon Posts: 4,548 ✭✭
    In my opinion the 3rd party grading services are supposed to grade and holder collectibles, not produce them.
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS could have a new limited edition doily paisley pattern slab label designed by Martha Stewart imageimage
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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think so.image
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Unsure at this time !!!
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  • AhrensdadAhrensdad Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭
    I would not.
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  • ianrussellianrussell Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If the holder was limited (time period), I would grade more coins, for sure.

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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.

    It's a new version of an old thing. It doesn't give me the benefits of the old version.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,035 ✭✭✭✭
    Oh oops, I didn't understand the thread until I read the one about the NGC idea...

    NO I would not image
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. Doilies are not that scarce. Not even close to the NGC black holders. And doilies do nothing to improve appearance.

    I sure hope we're not header into an era of gimmicky holders. Oh wait...we're already there.
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  • Dollar2007Dollar2007 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭
    Why is this asking if we would pay extra, NGC's black holder is included in the price for the select coins. I guess this would be a slightly bigger change if they actually changed the style of the plastic to be exact and not just the label.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Add another no vote
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Of course not.

    But the Prestige Holder might be a different answer.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,543 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,941 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No. In fact NGC is pulling out all gimmicks to increase business. Must be very slow over there.
    They now will grade GSA's with a plus grade. Trying to drive re-holder business I presume.

    The GSA plus grade means it is in the top tier for the grade. But, the example they showed is
    by far no better than an average MS64. Shooting themselves in the foot with that one!

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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,112 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No

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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    no, I like the black slabs better, looks cool in my opinion vs a doily
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    No, I'm not really into special plastic in less I know for a fact it will raise the value of my collection.
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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,419 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A "retro" holder is a slap in the face to anyone that collects the real deal. I would not support it in any way, unless there was a profit to be made.
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  • WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 6,921 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely not, and not for green one, or pale blue one, or double sided one, or authentic one. I just want the ones that do not say Genuine on it!!!

    WS
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  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,148 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would have PCGS do a new blue colored Regency sized holder for the oversized silver commem coin produced by the US mint. That would be an interesting yet new type of holder with a retro aspect to it. It would honor the old regency holder yet serve a specific niche that PCGS could satisfy for modern collectors.

    Doily holder? No.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    NO. People and concepts...we are monkeys.

    Eric
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,674 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A "retro" holder is a slap in the face to anyone that collects the real deal. I would not support it in any way, unless there was a profit to be made. >>



    This new black NGC holder is quite different from the originals. The originals used the thicker "no line fatty" shells and they used the silver embossed logo on the front of the slab (no holograms) with a plain white label on the back of the slab. Also, the dollar coins that will be slabbed in the new black slabs were never slabbed in the originals.

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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a holder, they are very inferior. The outer ring is fragile and traps dust and plastic cleaner. IF they ever go retro, I'd rather have the simple first generation Rattler holder.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely not. These were the ugliest, least legible labels ever issued by PCGS.
    John
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  • YogiBerraFanYogiBerraFan Posts: 2,390 ✭✭


    << <i>No.

    It's a new version of an old thing. It doesn't give me the benefits of the old version. >>



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  • JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154 ✭


    << <i>No, I'm not really into special plastic in less I know for a fact it will raise the value of my collection. >>



    I agree with this, but I think my Franklin set (gem, lustrous, white coins) would really look good contrasted in a black holder. I don't know that I'd want to pay a few hundred bucks for the privilege though.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780 ✭
    I am not an NGC kind of guy. I have not seen these. How easily is this supposed black holder differ from the earlier from the vantage of a newer collector who hears "buy black"? How would sort of change not be muddying the field at least partially?

    Eric
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just an opinion, but this is a dumb idea.

    Tom

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    No.

    Not anymore I wouldn't.

    Ask me that question a coupe of years back and I would probably have said yes.

    But after losing my butt on so many other "fad" doodahs and after smartening up a bit I'd have to bow out on this one (and the NGC retro slab).

    Besides, the only thing attractive about a doily slab is the cost involved in obtaining one and the potential profits achieved in reselling one.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would only pay a premium if I really like the coin. I am not a holder collector.

    Oddly enough the 1942-P Proof nickel in my type set is in a doily holder. I didn't pay anything extra for it when I bought the coin well over a decade ago.
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  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭
    I throw plastic in the garbage every day. Not worth much.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Would you pay extra $$ for a Retro PCGS Doily holder >>

    No.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Would you pay extra $$ for a Retro PCGS Doily holder >>

    No. >>

    Ditto

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,799 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Absolutely not. The costs of slabbing are expensive enough as it is.
    Investor
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,868 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Absolutely not. The costs of slabbing are expensive enough as it is. >>



    They wouldn't necessarily have to charge extra for this service. It could be a limited time promotional type effort to generate new submissions.

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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
  • milkcoinmilkcoin Posts: 583 ✭


    << <i>Now that we know the NGC Black retro holder is due out next month would you pay extra for a retro PCGS holder? Maybe a retro Doily for example? >>



    Not a chance. I just asked to buy up some doileys on the bst too. i only buy the classics.
  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895 ✭
    I wouldn't pay more for a retro doily or an original doily.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,315 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They wouldn't necessarily have to charge extra for this service. It could be a limited time promotional type effort to generate new submissions. >>


    I would withhold any submission until after the end of the promotion, and cancel the auto-renew on my collector's club membership to make sure none of my membership days at the beginning of the renewal period overlapped the promotion. Granted, my submissions are probably within the margin of a rounding error when it comes to their bottom line, but I can't be the only one who would do this.
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