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Coin truisms - The 2 best I've heard - Have any more?
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I don't grade 'em, I just price 'em. (first heard in the early '90's at a coin shop of questionable repute).
What's the difference between MS69 and MS70? The price.
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Vern
What's the difference between MS69 and MS70? The price.
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Vern
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Customer asks for a discount , " sorry, I got too much in it? or No , I am afraid I cant, just too tight in it" In some cases its honestly true , and some times there so much room in a piece, its just a ploy to get them to feel as there getting a good deal.
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Vern , you going to philly?
<< <i>I don't grade 'em, I just price 'em. (first heard in the early '90's at a coin shop of questionable repute). >>
that is not good for me.
i love using that quote in an attempt to circumnavigate any debate about a coin(s) grade. i prefer to let my price reflect my grade estimate vs availability vs popularity and a silent factor (my cost basis)
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Veteran dealer Harry Warner told me this in the mid-1970's
"The easiest thing to do in the coin business is spend money."
I guess that aplies to business and life too!
hrh
Me, to my wife, at a coin show where she wanted to use vending machine.
After I just spent about a grand on the "change" in my pocket.
The dirty look was classic.
If you don't do it when you get to it,
You'll never get to it to do it again.
<< <i>coin truism -- it's easier to find the coin than it is to find the money. >>
As I looked eight years for an acceptable Bust $ in AU and , four years for an acceptable Barber Half in MS 65, I'd have to disagree with the above comment.
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There are more coins than you have money to buy them.
I firmly believe in numismatics as the world's greatest hobby, but recognize that this is a luxury and without collectors, we can all spend/melt our collections/inventories.
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He also said, "learn to grade coins"
This guy was always right.
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<< <i>I don't grade 'em, I just price 'em. (first heard in the early '90's at a coin shop of questionable repute).
What's the difference between MS69 and MS70? The price.
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Vern >>
The first quote goes back at least to the 70's as one of my bosses at the time used it. I see nothing wrong with it. The message is, "I'm not intersted in discussing grading". It does not imply "my coins are overgraded so I won't tell you what I think the grade is". Granted, it's not a friendly approach and is very old school.
The second is just plain ignorant, but at least partially true.
Here's one:
Customer: What would you pay?
Dealer: I'd pay $XXX
Customer: I'd never sell it for that! It's worth at least $XXX
Dealer: How many would you like to buy?
Message: If you think my offer is unfair, then buy mine because I am a seller at less than you think they are worth.
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I asked a dealer in downtown Chicago,
" How do you know if a coin is rare? "
His reply, " If it's for sale somewhere, It ain't rare"
Regards, Larry
"Great coins are not cheap, and cheap coins are not great!"
<< <i>Back in the mid 60's when I was 15.
I asked a dealer in downtown Chicago,
" How do you know if a coin is rare? "
His reply, " If it's for sale somewhere, It ain't rare" >>
I like that one.
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<< <i>Back in the mid 60's when I was 15.
I asked a dealer in downtown Chicago,
" How do you know if a coin is rare? "
His reply, " If it's for sale somewhere, It ain't rare"
Regards, Larry >>
This makes no sense since even extremely rare coins are occasionally for sale.
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<< <i>Back in the mid 60's when I was 15.
I asked a dealer in downtown Chicago,
" How do you know if a coin is rare? "
His reply, " If it's for sale somewhere, It ain't rare"
Regards, Larry >>
This makes no sense since even extremely rare coins are occasionally for sale. >>
I'm guessing he meant coins that usually aren't for sale, e.g. on sale once every few years or more.
For most coins, there's the "everything has a price" truism where you can probably buy it just by making a huge offer. Of course there are coins like the 1933 DE and 1964-D Peace dollars, as well as the 1877 gold Half Union patterns and 2000 gold Sacs which are a bit more challenging.
"Buy the book before you buy the coin."
"How much of the value of that coin is plastic and bean?" (from a member's sig line)
If you want to judge eye appeal show it to a non collector, preferable a small child
I also like variations of "buy it from them then", when someone quotes what the Greysheet price is to a dealer who has priced his coins above sheet prices.
Unc with rub.
Two of our greatest gifts from the 1970's coin dealers. Rather than coin "truisms," these should be labeled "falseisms" or "bogisms."
Dealer to me:
"You don't want to buy that coin. See the low price, what do you think I paid him for it?"
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
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<< <i>Easy to buy, hard to sell. >>
Definitely this!
<< <i>My favorite Numismatic Truism:
"Just because a cat has kittens in the oven don't make them biscuits." >>
My dad is always telling me that one!
That line about the difference between a 69 and 70 sounds like my line
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This as a very green beginner after showing a NEWP (bought sight unseen from an ad in a coin mag) I thought might be a problem coin to a local coin shop owner. Fortunately I was fast enough that I was able to return the whizzed coin for a full refund. That coin shop earned a lot of my business.
Anyway I doubt this truism is 100% true, doesn't PCGS sponsor a free Registry lunch?
<< <i>"There is no free lunch in numismatics."
This as a very green beginner after showing a NEWP (bought sight unseen from an ad in a coin mag) I thought might be a problem coin to a local coin shop owner. Fortunately I was fast enough that I was able to return the whizzed coin for a full refund. That coin shop earned a lot of my business.
Anyway I doubt this truism is 100% true, doesn't PCGS sponsor a free Registry lunch? >>
That's funny, because I've been taken to the cleaners at a few free lunches!
John Love said this to me over 25 years ago.
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Coin Dealer from Seattle (used to wear looney tunes ties at shows) so some of you will know who that was.
He would hold a very worn coin, and say..... "This coin was new, once"
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I find this statement to be at odds with itself
<< <i>The only hobby where your collection cannot be worth $0. >>
unless you're one of those Exonumania, Medals or Scripophily guys ... which I'm not
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Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
<< <i>Borderline uncirculated.
Unc with rub.
Two of our greatest gifts from the 1970's coin dealers. Rather than coin "truisms," these should be labeled "falseisms" or "bogisms." >>
I've always had a difficult time accurately identifying "About Unc" grades. To me they're all XF or MS.
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<< <i>"will you guarantee that PCGS will grade it ?" >>
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