PICTURES IN FIRST POST!!! Question....What is the MAX you would pay for a Morgan NGC MS61* Reverse

uofa1285

Assume it is as awesome a Rainbow toner as a 61* could be...

Doug





Picture Credits: KryptoniteComics - Shane

keyman64

Interesting question. I hope a few will play the game and toss some numbers out there. Not my series otherwise I would play.

lasvegasteddy

no picture...no price
we're a tough crowd here dougster...

illini420

Not sure I'd even think of a bid too far above the average MS61 if it wasn't special enough to be graded MS61* by NGC... usually they give that star designation to the really pretty toners.

uofa1285

<< <i>Not sure I'd even think of a bid too far above the average MS61 if it wasn't special enough to be graded MS61* by NGC... usually they give that star designation to the really pretty toners. >>



Oops..it is a star, sorry. Original post edited.

uofa1285

<< <i>no picture...no price
we're a tough crowd here dougster... >>



It's a HYPOTHETICAL my friend!!! Take a leapppp! lol.

19Lyds

For an MS61? Star or no star I doubt I'd offer much over bid for an MS61 Toner.

But thats just me.

LindeDad

Very little over book if that, as I have not found 61's to be loved on any market.

SeattleSlammer

If it's a common date monster rainbow toned reverse with good luster and the marks keeping it at 61 are primarily on the obverse (as is usually the case) then it could go $300+ IMO. I've seen them bring that in recent years.

michiganboy

<< <i>Very little over book if that, as I have not found 61's to be loved on any market.
>>

especially when talking about an such abundant date and series.

stman

<< <i>Assume it is as awesome a Rainbow toner as a 61* could be... >>



Since "Rainbow" is sooooo overused and IMO most are not rainbow......... being a 61 I wouldn't pay much no matter how nice you say it is.
Oh, it's a reverse "RAINBOW" one? Price goes down even more.

GoldenEyeNumismatics

If it is truly as epic a piece as I can imagine, I could see a $1,000 price tag.

After seeing the pictures, I would say a retail price of $400 would be reasonable.

mrpaseo

Sight unseen.... Spot +3%

BryceM

<< <i>Sight unseen.... Spot +3%

>>



Ya, I'd pay about the same, but only if I was in the market for bullion that day. Not my cup of tea.

Buzzybest

Nothing. I don't like NGC holders or MS61 grades.

Constantine

I would pass on the 61 as I have with the 62s. Not even an offer as the odd grade would be a distraction mentally, but also eye appeal too condition wise. Amazing or not, there are a ton of toners out there and in higher grades.

coinbuf

<< <i>Nothing. I don't like NGC holders or MS61 grades. >>



Swimming in the kool-aid , as to the op's question beautiful is in the eye of the beholder, and I'm not a big fan of tarnish so I'd pay AU58 money for it.

mkman123

how the toning looks plays a big factor. We need pics

rec78

$26.32

uofa1285

Can't wait to share! Shane will get me the pics tomorrow and I will post...this is going to be fun.

uofa1285

<< <i>If it is truly as epic a piece as I can imagine, I could see a $1,000 price tag. >>



An open mind! Good for you! I must admit the reverse is probably a 63 to 64...it's the dead white obverse that brings it down to a 61....the money side, as they say.

messydesk

61 has generally negative eye appeal. So 61* would be an ugly coin has a surprise positive attribute? Without seeing a picture, it's probably not for me, but then I'm not a toner chaser.

Bochiman

<< <i>I would pass on the 61 as I have with the 62s. Not even an offer as the odd grade would be a distraction mentally, but also eye appeal too condition wise. Amazing or not, there are a ton of toners out there and in higher grades. >>



I thought like that before, but then I started looking at the coin and not the grade. I have had some really nice, to me, 62 graded coins. If the look is right, and the price is right, to me, I don't have a problem with it.

jughead1893

$400

uofa1285

TtT!

Pictures in first post!



Doug

blu62vette

It has good color but it also has spots in the color and that color around trust is weird. Worth a premium, how much is different to everyone.

LindeDad

OK I'll go up the $35.00 and that's all. And yes I saw the images.

Edit to add that I do not consider that to be natural toning any way I look at it.

coinbuf

Wow thats even more ugly than I'd thought it may be natural but it does'nt look like it, yuck you can have it. Might be worth something if the rev looked like the obv.

mrpaseo

Okay, now that I see the photo.... Spot +5%, after all it is an "O" mint

coindeuce

I've observed the images also, before responding.

TO answer your question:
1) I would need to have a singular interest in dramatically toned Morgan Dollars

2) I would have to have a specific criteria for the toning pattern and color already established.

3) I would have to decide where this coin ranked among the toned Morgans that I already own or have owned.

4) I would want to know for certain that the coin could easily be passed along in the market if the necessity to liquidate became urgent.

I have no doubt that you paid four figures for this coin. I would not have.
"Can't wait to share! Shane will get me the pics tomorrow and I will post...this is going to be fun"
Please give us your definition of fun, so we know how you're doing.

crypto79

100$ bucks, The dealers who sell them might ask for more that doesn't make it worth it.

uofa1285

TTT for the weekend folks.

lasvegasteddy

not a bad looking 61
i could see that floating in the $300 to $500 range
those colors are muted from what i can tell
different lighting approach could really pop those colors
colors are really centered too
i likes it...

Constantine

Hey I love toned Morgans but still would pass after seeing the pics. Deep colors are cool but still a common toning pattern.

Not to be a poo poer, but $30 proof 68 Kennedy halves can get the star designation. So I don't look at the star as being as cool as some think it is.

kryptonitecomics

<< <i>not a bad looking 61
i could see that floating in the $300 to $500 range
those colors are muted from what i can tell
different lighting approach could really pop those colors
colors are really centered too
i likes it... >>



The colors aren't muted...that's exactly what the coin looks like in hand. Sure I couldn't have tilted the coin more to give the coin a cartoon unnatural appearence with light hitting off of the surface like some but I want the image to match the coin in hand and I would imagine anyone seeing the coin and the image would think they were spot on

lasvegasteddy

hopefully no offence was implied or taken...if so you're out of the 2 xmas cards this year club...says me...
nah
my reference was muted in that they're a lil dark
that coin in better lighting i'm sure has more of that neon "sheen"

DeepCoin

I am not a big fan of the green on the reverse, so I would pay market for a standard 61 if I were a Morgan collector. Clearly, there are those who value such toning and would pay some type of premium, but that would not be me.

braddick

Closes soon. Already $400.+

JJM

100 bucks

EDIT TO SAY, Holey Smokes !!!!!,...OMG

some one got paid

johnny9434

<< <i>Sight unseen.... Spot +3%

>>

ricko

No offer, I would not bid on a tarnished coin. Cheers, RickO

keets

i wonder if all the members saying they'd offer a ride on the LowBall Express to buy the coin would whistle the same tune if they were selling it??

morgansforever

My first thought was 3-5 hundred, then I clicked the link provided by braddick.
Common date, low end Unc's, with big color command high prices, you only need two that want it.
Keets summed it up.

beartracks42

I like the coin. I would like it much more if the toning were on the obverse. From Shane's pics, NGC was a bit hard on the grade, IMO. From what I have seen offered here and other sites, the date and grade mean less that the quality of the toning.

coinbuf

<< <i>i wonder if all the members saying they'd offer a ride on the LowBall Express to buy the coin would whistle the same tune if they were selling it?? >>



Of course not, as a seller you want to max your gain so hypeing the tarnish is the game. But then I'll never be the seller as I dont spend what I feel would be stupid money on coins like that. No offense to the seller or the buyer but I much rather spend that amount on something better.

braddick

I like the coin at where it's at but am afraid it'll creep in the $500.+ side before I get a chance to bid.

291fifth

Melt.

braddick

<< <i>Melt. >>



Your heart melts too when you see it?

tradedollarnut

eh. Doesn't look too natural to me - and I gotta wonder why it got the 61 grade.

uofa1285

<< <i>eh. Doesn't look too natural to me - and I gotta wonder why it got the 61 grade. >>



Wow, really? I've been doing toned Morgans for 10+ years but I know that pales in comparison to your experience and expertise in our hobby. I am flabbergasted that you wonder in the slightest this coin to be NT. Simply classically concentric album toning to me. Colors are crazy fun but all in the right progression and shades. The 61 grade comes from an absolute Dead obverse luster. (Keets was spot on in his post here) No breaks though in what little luster is there, so they gave it the 61. The reverse on the other hand is a 64, give or take.

Your reply is probably one of my top 10 surprise posts for this year so far TDN! Wgr, Doug

TwoSides2aCoin

The maximum I would pay is _ _% of wholesale Ask for AU58+ with a _ _ _ sticker and in a PCGS holder. I'd have a hard time buying it with my attitude, but I'd change my attitude if I owned it. .

signed,

The Kool Aid dude with a 'tude





some comedy intended