1839-O Classic Gold Variety?

cameron12x

Can any of the Classic Gold experts here tell me if this QE:



Is it a "High Date, Wide Fraction, Breen-6512, Variety-27" example?

And if so, what is its relative scarcity and premium, if any.

Technical grade?

Thanks!

crazyhounddog

Well, I can tell ya this....She has a really big nose!!

Aegis3

<< <i>Is it a "High Date, Wide Fraction, Breen-6512, Variety-27" example?
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Yes. I'm not sure of the relative rarities of the two varieties, but I don't think there is much of a difference there.

PQueue

The most common of the 2 '39-O varieties.

cameron12x

<< <i>The most common of the 2 '39-O varieties. >>



Thanks... what is the ratio between the two?

Technical grade? VF-20?

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Thanks... what is the ratio between the two? >>



it is estimated that the ratio is 2-1 with the variety 27 being the more common

very very very few people collect these by die marriages and those few that do can finish the set probably rather quickly

gold going to 1600-1800 an ounce certainly didn't help matters any - it erased numismatic value on a large number of coins including a lot of die marriages, and of course helped a few others
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mrearlygold

Great photo skills and color. Mind if I ask what lighting and camera you're using??

mkman123

I like how the mintmark is on the obverse, how much does this coin cost from xf and lower??

cameron12x

<< <i>I like how the mintmark is on the obverse, how much does this coin cost from xf and lower?? >>

Probably about $300 to $3,000.

<< <i>Great photo skills and color. Mind if I ask what lighting and camera you're using?? >>

Thanks I actually threw this together rather quickly. Canon 5Dmk2 camera, Canon 100mm f/2.8L IS macro lens, simple desktop lighting, hand-held.

<< <i>it is estimated that the ratio is 2-1 with the variety 27 being the more common

very very very few people collect these by die marriages and those few that do can finish the set probably rather quickly

gold going to 1600-1800 an ounce certainly didn't help matters any - it erased numismatic value on a large number of coins including a lot of die marriages, and of course helped a few others
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Thanks for the information. What do you estimate the technical grade to be?

dcarr

That is the wide-fraction, low "3" variety.

The other variety for this date (narrow-fraction, high "3") is a bit scarcer, and I believe that all of them have medal alignment (reverse rotated 180 degrees from normal).

cameron12x

<< <i>That is the wide-fraction, low "3" variety.

The other variety for this date (narrow-fraction, high "3") is a bit scarcer, and I believe that all of them have medal alignment (reverse rotated 180 degrees from normal). >>

Thanks for the information Daniel... much appreciated.

Anyone have thoughts on a technical grade?

BillJones

My technical grade would be "Fine-18." If someone called it a VF-20, I would not put up a fuss because the piece is so clean (lacks major marks) for the grade. The lack of serious problems is a big plus for this piece, and for that reason it’s worth VF money regardless of the technical grade.

steveben

i like it. i don't really care about the grade because it has an original look and honest wear.

cameron12x

Thanks everyone for your input... much appreciated.

So, for now, I suppose I'll call it:

1839-O Classic Quarter Eagle (VF-20), High Date, Low "3", Wide Fraction, Breen-6512, Variety-27

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>So, I suppose I'll call it: >>



you may desire to see if John McCloskey, Rory Rea, Harry Bass or anyone else has done attribution work for these "little sisters ?"
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cameron12x

<< <i>you may desire to see if John McCloskey, Rory Rea, Harry Bass or anyone else has done attribution work for these "little sisters ?" >>

Are these gentlemen on the board here?

How can they be contacted?

PerryHall

Do many people collect this series by die variety?