Could have sworn there was a "Where is Felicia now" thread, but can't find it now

mcadams

Just getting back into town since Monday a.m. and wanted to read the rest of that thread, but can't find it. Was it renamed..or moved?

mtcards

Probably "moderated"

WalterSobchak

Mods wiped it out shortly after it became awesome.

mcadams

<< <i>Mods wiped it out shortly after it became awesome. >>



Thats what I get for traveling and taking a few days off, i guess. D@mn!

MCMLVTopps

I was the OP and I'm glad it's gone.

I only posted because I was aware of the sentencing and the depth of his very sad and self-destructing demise. Unfortunately there were those who made it into a joke by posting about zombie cards which really derailed the thread.

A man, who many here looked up to in terms of his collecting prowess and generosity is now serving hard time...his life is destroyed.

mcadams

Its unclear to me why some threads get banned. I wasn't the one posting zombie card pics, but was that so offensive that the entire thread needed to be pulled down? Odd...

tsalems1

<< <i>Its unclear to me why some threads get banned. I wasn't the one posting zombie card pics, but was that so offensive that the entire thread needed to be pulled down? Odd... >>



Those were great looking zombie pics!

mcadams

<< <i>

<< <i>Its unclear to me why some threads get banned. I wasn't the one posting zombie card pics, but was that so offensive that the entire thread needed to be pulled down? Odd... >>



Those were great looking zombie pics! >>



Ix-nay on the Ombie-zay. I wouldn't want this thread to disappear because we were talking about .......the "Z" word.

WalterSobchak

<< <i>Its unclear to me why some threads get banned. I wasn't the one posting zombie card pics, but was that so offensive that the entire thread needed to be pulled down? Odd... >>


I didn't quite get it either, but it's clear that's what happened. There was nothing offensive posted, people weren't squabbling with each other, no one was talking politics. Once the Felicia discussion had played out and the topic shifted to something else (which happens all the time around here, right?), some of us were having some fun with it. Then it was just gone.

My assumption is that someone complained and got their way, but I do not know that.

MCMLVTopps

As a final comment...I think it got taken down because this is the "sports cards & memorabilia forum"...clearly the topic did not fit, but I think the moderator allowed it to play out for a while. Once it reached page three and got into the zombie thing he/she just pulled it.

I don't think the thread got toasted because of the zombie stuff, but given the gravity and seriousness of the issue, I think the zombie guys could have begun their own thread and had at it. To me, it was kinda like having a party at a funeral home...but that's just my 2 cents. Nothing against zombie guys, I just thought it didn't belong.

I'd offer to chat via PM, but I've told everything I know about Felicia.

WalterSobchak

I, for one, meant no disrespect to the original issue that was being discussed. I just went where the zombies were.
The original post could quite literally have been about anything- and I would have been in there with the same amount of enthusiasm.

mccardguy1

<< <i>I was the OP and I'm glad it's gone.

I only posted because I was aware of the sentencing and the depth of his very sad and self-destructing demise. Unfortunately there were those who made it into a joke by posting about zombie cards which really derailed the thread.

A man, who many here looked up to in terms of his collecting prowess and generosity is now serving hard time...his life is destroyed. >>



No disrespect but HIS life is destroyed? How about the victims he took for millions and now they no longer have a retirement savings to fall back on. I feel no pity for the "person" in question. I feel pity for those he screwed out of their hard earned savings because someone got greedy and didnt want to put in the hard work his victims did to earn a respectable living and a savings. He found it easier to steal from others, live high on the hog at others expense and provide his victims with no recourse as they will never see their funds again. Pardon me if I care less if his life was destroyed. Hopefully he will see the error of his ways and become a respectable citizen when he gets out and works to repay those he stole from but somehow I doubt that will happen.

Aric

I find the whole Felicia con fascinating. IMO, Scott Yermish or what ever his name was working a long con on the board and other things (bigger scams)got in the way before he was able to capitalize on his work here. His ability to win over long time members who continued to defend his name to the end, show how con men are able to build trust and twist minds. It also shows that our hobby, like just about any other that one that involves high dollar items, is always prone to scamsters and schemesters looking to make their buck with no consideration for the hobby itself.
I also feel like posting zombie pictures as a reply to that thread was a weird defense mechanism to downplay the severity of the issue but maybe I am over analyzing.

grote15

<< <i>I find the whole Felicia con fascinating. IMO, Scott Yermish or what ever his name was working a long con on the board and other things (bigger scams)got in the way before he was able to capitalize on his work here. His ability to win over long time members who continued to defend his name to the end, show how con men are able to build trust and twist minds. It also shows that our hobby, like just about any other that one that involves high dollar items, is always prone to scamsters and schemesters looking to make their buck with no consideration for the hobby itself.
I also feel like posting zombie pictures as a reply to that thread was a weird defense mechanism to downplay the severity of the issue but maybe I am over analyzing. >>



That's pretty insightful analysis right there and on the money, imo..

miconelegacy

<< <i>I find the whole Felicia con fascinating. IMO, Scott Yermish or what ever his name was working a long con on the board and other things (bigger scams)got in the way before he was able to capitalize on his work here. His ability to win over long time members who continued to defend his name to the end, show how con men are able to build trust and twist minds. It also shows that our hobby, like just about any other that one that involves high dollar items, is always prone to scamsters and schemesters looking to make their buck with no consideration for the hobby itself.
I also feel like posting zombie pictures as a reply to that thread was a weird defense mechanism to downplay the severity of the issue but maybe I am over analyzing. >>



Great post Aric.

swartz1

<< <i>

<< <i>I find the whole Felicia con fascinating. IMO, Scott Yermish or what ever his name was working a long con on the board and other things (bigger scams)got in the way before he was able to capitalize on his work here. His ability to win over long time members who continued to defend his name to the end, show how con men are able to build trust and twist minds. It also shows that our hobby, like just about any other that one that involves high dollar items, is always prone to scamsters and schemesters looking to make their buck with no consideration for the hobby itself.
I also feel like posting zombie pictures as a reply to that thread was a weird defense mechanism to downplay the severity of the issue but maybe I am over analyzing. >>



Great post Aric. >>



+1

corvette1340

Maybe he can have a card in the next Allen and Ginter set. It will have 3 versions, #'d to 25 where he signs Scott Yermish, #'d to 10 where he signs Scott Lindeman, and a 1 0f 1 where he signs "Felicia".

Aric was absolutely right. You guys remember the whole "I'm getting out of the hobby and selling my collection because I have a ONCE IN A LIFETIME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY" right? He was gonna try and stick it deep in some members here, imo.

1980scollector

<< <i>Maybe he can have a card in the next Allen and Ginter set. It will have 3 versions, #'d to 25 where he signs Scott Yermish, #'d to 10 where he signs Scott Lindeman, and a 1 0f 1 where he signs "Felicia".

Aric was absolutely right. You guys remember the whole "I'm getting out of the hobby and selling my collection because I have a ONCE IN A LIFETIME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY" right? He was gonna try and stick it deep in some members here, imo. >>



+1

bking

<< <i>Maybe he can have a card in the next Allen and Ginter set. It will have 3 versions, #'d to 25 where he signs Scott Yermish, #'d to 10 where he signs Scott Lindeman, and a 1 0f 1 where he signs "Felicia".

Aric was absolutely right. You guys remember the whole "I'm getting out of the hobby and selling my collection because I have a ONCE IN A LIFETIME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY" right? He was gonna try and stick it deep in some members here, imo. >>



Perhaps a card picturing him and Andy Dufresne with "the sisters"

EchoCanyon

I think we should immortalize/verb-a-tize her/his name on the boards.

For example, a deal goes sour and you say, "So-and-so member really Felicia-ed me!"

1980scollector

Man, I got Yermished?

mtcards

Now that I think about it.....i think 'Felicia" was the person who had a group rip of some 73-75 wax that they were selling for about 15% more than what BBCE sells those same items for at the time. I remember asking about it and I think they said that they were doing it for "fun" and not trying to make money off it....yeah right

EchoCanyon

In 2009, there was a lot of board-love for Felicia

larryallen73

The Felicia days were fun around here. "She" did a good job being "Felicia."

Johnsteph10

This was obviously well before my time here...but I very much agree with previous thoughts....even more so that "she" would promote "herself" on here as a "woman"....in a predominately male forum/hobby.

..even easier to gain trust/affection, etc.

Con. Con. Con.

Give a little then take a LOT.

mccardguy1

<< <i>Why I am selling my cards..Hope this answers your questions.
>>



I guess the Spano comment in this referenced thread proved to be prophetic after all. I wonder what Carmelcollector is doing these days?

hammered

"I signed a confidentiality agreement and I am unable to talk about this transaction right now, once the deal is complete I will tell you the company name and how this was put together."

LOL

larryallen73

I guess the Spano comment in this referenced thread proved to be prophetic after all. I wonder what Carmelcollector is doing these days?

I could be wrong but I recall that carmelcollector was one of Fandango's alts.

hammered

<< <i>I guess the Spano comment in this referenced thread proved to be prophetic after all. I wonder what Carmelcollector is doing these days?

I could be wrong but I recall that carmelcollector was one of Fandango's alts. >>




I don't think so. Fandango was a moron and couldn't have made that parallel on his own.

MCMLVTopps

Even I had forgotten all those posts that DavidG1966 and Echo Canyon brought back up. Crazy stuff, 4 sure with all that shopping center BS.

I just shake my head and thank God I kept my powder dry, I was right on the edge of being scammed. Very weird to think back to sitting at his kitchen table discussing things...then that evening enjoying the company of his "friends", who were clearly targets and now vicitms...blue collar workers all, but I had no inkling or idea what was taking place.

I hope he is beyond miserable and claustrophobic in his cell.

bking

<< <i>I hope he is beyond miserable and claustrophobic in his cell. >>



I hope the other inmates start calling him Felicia...

purduepete

<< <i>The Felicia days were fun around here. "She" did a good job being "Felicia." >>



The real Felicia must have picked up a few bad traits from her hubby. Remember "her" mentioning going to the Bellagio in this thread?

Here are the results from her Bellagio blowout.

Dboneesq

<< <i>Here are the results from her Bellagio blowout. >>


Pete ... I heard about that lawsuit and was looking for details. That LINK is not good.

KbKards

"I hope the other inmates start calling him Felicia..."

The group rips probably aren't as much fun.

vladguerrero

He had $90K in Ebay sales in the last two months his account was active... just sayin'.

mtcards

Yep, I remember that time. Many current and former posters on this board would have defended "her" with their left one if anyone even remotely said anything negative about "her" business transactions or card transactions. Just goes to show, that for most of us, we are anonymous and even though the majority of us can and are trustworthy people, you never know.

hammered

<< <i>

<< <i>Here are the results from her Bellagio blowout. >>


Pete ... I heard about that lawsuit and was looking for details. That LINK is not good. >>




Here's one: Bellagio filing


Looks like she may have been unable to pay a marker.
Of course, this does not make her guilty of what her husband was involved in. In fact, her husband's dealings (if she in fact had no knowledge of it) could very well have led to her inability to pay.

bobbyw8469

It is my understanding that Felicia was the con artist's wife. She is a real person. She also opened a "soap" business in Texas. A simple google search of her full, married name will pull everything up.

MCMLVTopps

Couldh've been a joint account...once he got hauled off to San Antonio it fell on the wife to pony up the debt to Bellagio. Then again, I could be completely wrong.

I do know they will hunt their money down with the vigor a cheetah has for meat.

Cooptown

The sale of Felicia's collection was right around the time I had started to get back into the hobby. At the time, I was more into getting my autograph collection back up and running, not focusing much on cards.

I do get a kick out of reading some of the responses in these old posts. Anytime anyone calls her "ma'am" or "way to go, girl" cracks me up. But this one may take the cake:

.TextText If you are insinuating that she is a fraud, then I suggest you apologize immediately

zep33

I'd hit it

WinPitcher

<< <i>t is my understanding that Felicia was the con artist's wife. She is a real person. She also opened a "soap" business in Texas. A simple google search of her full, married name will pull everything up >>




Stop it Bobby! No one wants to hear the facts.

Cooptown

Can someone explain property values in El Paso, TX? Her home is valued at $142k. Unless the market in El Paso is really low priced, I didnt see this financial guru living in something that cheap.

bking

<< <i>Can someone explain property values in El Paso, TX? Her home is valued at $142k. Unless the market in El Paso is really low priced, I didnt see this financial guru living in something that cheap. >>



The market is lower down here. Frame of reference - a house that goes for $400K in CA MIGHT go for $60K there, and about $80K in Dallas. $200K down here should buy you 3000SFt.

purduepete

<< <i>

<< <i>Here are the results from her Bellagio blowout. >>


Pete ... I heard about that lawsuit and was looking for details. That LINK is not good. >>



Don't know why the link didn't work. I typed in the case number on the Clark County District Court search feature, and it came up with this...

Register of ActionsCase No. A-11-641509-CBellagio LLC, Plaintiff(s) vs. Felicia Lindemann, Defendant(s) §
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Case Type: Breach of Contract
Subtype: Commercial Instrument
Date Filed: 05/17/2011
Location: Department 6
Conversion Case Number: A641509


Party Information Lead Attorneys
Defendant Lindemann, Felicia
Also Known As Lindemann, Felicia M


Plaintiff Bellagio LLC
Craig Samuel Newman

Retained

7022574122(W)
Events & Orders of the Court DISPOSITIONS
04/03/2012
Default Judgment Plus Legal Interest (Judicial Officer: Cadish, Elissa F.)

Debtors: Felicia Lindemann (Defendant)
Creditors: Bellagio LLC (Plaintiff)

Judgment: 04/03/2012, Docketed: 04/25/2012
Total Judgment: 50,252.98




OTHER EVENTS AND HEARINGS
05/17/2011 Case Opened
05/17/2011 Complaint
Complaint

09/14/2011 Summons
Summons

09/14/2011 Application
Application for an Order for Service by Publication and Request for an Extension of Time in which to Serve Defendant

10/13/2011 Ex Parte Motion
Ex Parte Motion for Extension of Time for Service of Process and for Service of Defendant by Publication

10/19/2011 Notice of Appearance
Notice of Appearance of Counsel

10/24/2011 Order Granting Motion
Order Granting Plaintiff's Motion for Extension of Time for Service of Process and for Service of Defendant

10/26/2011 Substitution of Attorney
Substitution of Attorney

11/23/2011 Certificate of Mailing
Certificate of Mailing

12/20/2011 Affidavit of Publication
Affidavit of Publication

01/17/2012 Affidavit of Publication
Affidavit of Publication

01/19/2012 Three Day Notice of Intent to Default
Three Day Notice of Intent to Take Default

01/31/2012 Three Day Notice of Intent to Default
Three Day Notice of Intent to Take Default

02/14/2012 Default
Default

03/09/2012 Application for Default Judgment
Plaintiff's Application for Default Judgment

03/13/2012 Ex Parte
Ex Parte Notice of Prove-up Hearing

04/03/2012 Judgment
Judgment

04/06/2012 Notice of Entry of Judgment
Notice of Entry of Judgment

04/17/2012 CANCELED Motion for Prove Up (8:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Cadish, Elissa F.)
Vacated - Case Closed

Financial Information

Plaintiff Bellagio LLC
Total Financial Assessment 324.50
Total Payments and Credits 324.50
Balance Due as of 05/24/2012 0.00

05/17/2011 Transaction Assessment 270.00
05/17/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-51365-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (270.00)
10/13/2011 Transaction Assessment 3.50
10/13/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-116284-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
10/19/2011 Transaction Assessment 3.50
10/19/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-118635-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
10/24/2011 Transaction Assessment 3.50
10/24/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-120363-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
10/26/2011 Transaction Assessment 3.50
10/26/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-121787-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
11/23/2011 Transaction Assessment 3.50
11/23/2011 Wiznet Receipt # 2011-133211-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
01/18/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
01/18/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-06752-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
01/19/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
01/19/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-07465-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
01/31/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
01/31/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-14278-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
02/14/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
02/14/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-20733-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
03/09/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
03/09/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-31743-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
03/14/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
03/14/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-33333-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
04/03/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
04/03/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-43199-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
04/09/2012 Transaction Assessment 3.50
04/09/2012 Wiznet Receipt # 2012-45180-CCCLK Bellagio LLC (3.50)
04/09/2012 Transaction Assessment 9.00
04/09/2012 Payment (Window) Receipt # 2012-45318-CCCLK FENNEMORE CRAIG PC (9.00)

summerof68

Felicia or Scott? Is it a guy or girl or hybrid? Its kind of like that recent AOL picture of Faith Hill early in the morning at LAX airport taken by the paparazzi. I'm still trying to figure out if she's a woman, man or maybe even a stand-in member for Led Zeppelin!

And yes that IS Faith Hill below as she really looks before her "transformation team" spends hours working on her to create the "product" on the right!

Be it sportscards or people sometimes not all the glitters is gold...

Cokin75

<< <i>Felicia or Scott? Is it a guy or girl or hybrid? Its kind of like that recent AOL picture of Faith Hill early in the morning at LAX airport taken by the paparazzi. I'm still trying to figure out if she's a woman, man or maybe even a stand-in member for Led Zeppelin!

And yes that IS Faith Hill as she really looks before her "transformation team" spends hours working on her!
>>



Good Lord! Now I know how Dorothy felt when she saw the man behind the curtain!

hammered

I absolutely refuse to believe that is Faith Hill

Bosox1976

This is her before her morning shave:

Mickey71

I don't think I would want to be on the Casino's bad list. I'm serious. "Vito....I need you to take care of something for us"

bking

Actually, it looks to me like the case was dropped, based on the balance as well as the docket entries after 4/6/12