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At which circulated grade level do you loose interest no matter how scarce a coin might be?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
Myself I really have no particular interest in anything below XF...

So Lowball collectors aside at which grade level do you bail out image
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    this is one of those unanswerable questions

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  • JamesMurrayJamesMurray Posts: 4,036
    I agree with both previous posters , i like my US coins to be at least XF while my Scottish and UK coins are often just not possible for me in those grades.When i say not possible im refering to 800/900 year old hammered coins , i have a lot more leeway with those but still don't appreciate those below a certain grade.If i can identify it by looking and its not cut in half or quartered then i usually will keep it for some length of time , never a guarentee i wont upgrade and then move lesser examples on.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can I see all the design that was meant? And, I don't mean every little hair. I mean the outlines, the words, etc.
    If so, I am good.

    For instance, I have a lettered edge half-cent. I like it. It is only VG8 though.

    I also have a G4 1916-D merc. I am ok with it, even though I have upgraded and will sell it soon.

    As long as I can see the coin, I am fine.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,238 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Any grade as long as the coin is nice looking. A problem free AG chain cent with nice glossly brown surfaces would be a great coin to own.

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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486
    I see some pretty nice 50-55 range pieces, I don't own any but for some early US issues I could.
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,616 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i collect any grade as long as the following are true about the coin:

    1. i think it has eye appeal
    2. it is a piece of interest to me
    3. i agree with the grade
    4. the price is right
    5. i can afford it
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lcoopie, I'm with you. Like most blanket statements, hard to live with without seeing the individual coins.
    I've seen some coins I would not have in VF and some I would be proud to own in VG. I tend to like full details(as
    previously stated) with at least complete outlines of main features and full rims.
    As asked for, that's just my opinion.
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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    in general, I like to buy all my coins in VF or XF...but there are always exceptions. Eye appeal and graded properly is always the most important factor to me.
  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,330 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a great question and I don't know that there is an answer on my part other than "it depends". For most series anything under a Ch VF holds little appeal, though I typically try to get things at least EF. However, other coins look good even lower and so lower graded pieces would be fine, too.
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think damage is more problematic for me- whether it be cleaning, bent, rim ding etc.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,179 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i collect any grade as long as the following are true about the coin:

    1. i think it has eye appeal
    2. it is a piece of interest to me
    3. i agree with the grade
    4. the price is right
    5. i can afford it >>



    Hard to improve upon this, imo
  • stealerstealer Posts: 3,997 ✭✭✭✭
    Key dates never really interested me unless they are true rarities. Key dates generally have too large of a surviving population to justify shelling out big bucks for them. I'd much rather spend that money on a nicer example and more common date from the same series/denom.
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love XF type coins but any grade still holds interest as long as it is a nice looking coin.
    I guess I would have to say I lose interest when the design disappears.
  • HotfootspinHotfootspin Posts: 430 ✭✭
    I like all my coins to have at least full rims. For most coins this means
    at least G-VG. But for some early coins this can mean Fine.

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  • jt88jt88 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it really depends on the rarity. If it is only one or two exist then you have to get it even if it is G condition.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    A coin is a coin is a coin to me, the grade and condition only affect what I will pay for it. If the coin has that it factor (fills a hole, history, scarcity) that allows it to spark my interest I will love it for what it is. Two of my favorite coins as proof, the 2nd is a PCGS AG3 but is low end for the grade IMO
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  • atarianatarian Posts: 3,116
    I would say for most stuff G4 is my lowest tolerable. If its netted lower and still readable and looks good them I will consider it. But if I cant make it out or if its barely noticeable at all then even being rare I wont enjoy it. And if I can enjoy it then why have it. Thats my view. If you offered me a 1793 chain cent that is a Fair 2 that you cant really read yah I bet i wouldnt keep it . maybe Id resell it but I couldnt enjoy it knowing I cant read it.
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭
    Usually below G-4 I lose interest but I have seen a few AG-3's I would love to own.
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>Usually below G-4 I lose interest but I have seen a few AG-3's I would love to own. >>



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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,056 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VF-20 to 25 is usually my limit, but when I purchased my Draped Bust, Small Eagle half dollar (a VERY tough type) I went down to Fine - 15. I guess if I REALLY wanted some that was VERY rare, I'd go down to a very choice VG, but that would be it.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    XF-AU is usually my collecting sweet spot but depending on the eye appeal, the scarcity and the history of the coin involved, I can even fall in love with an AG...
  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Usually below G-4 I lose interest but I have seen a few AG-3's I would love to own. >>



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    That is one I would gladly put in my collection!image
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  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    Like others have said really depends on the rarity, but it can't be ugly or worn smooth. That AG3 that Crypto posted is a good example I would buy that if the price was right.
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  • dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Usually below G-4 I lose interest but I have seen a few AG-3's I would love to own. >>



    My kind of thread
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    AG3 is great when you have otherwise F15+ details.
    How does that happen?

    And that would be my answer to the OP. F15.
    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
  • TennesseeDaveTennesseeDave Posts: 4,782 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Usually VF, but I guess it really depends on the eye appeal.Many lower graded coins still have great eye appeal and I would consider any grade if the price was right and it still looked good. Here is a coin I bought just because I liked the look. Probably VG-8-10.




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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,781 ✭✭✭✭
    For Buffalo nickels, I'm only interested in pieces MS63 and above. For Lincoln cents, MS63RB or better.
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  • It depends greatly upon the coin. I have a VF 30 Bust Dollar that I just love imagining who carried it over the years and what it "saw". If you're talking a common coin from from the middle 1800's on then I most likely want it to be at least AU. It depends on whether you collect coins from a purely numismatic standpoint or with interest in the contribution that the individual coin made in the daily life of our history. If I had a 1913 Liberty Nickel or 1804 dollar, I would sell it the next day. I have no interest in owning those types of coins. Give me a Brasher Doubloon and it will be mine until I die, regardless of the grade.
  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So much of this question depends on the area of interest, for myself AU58 and up with a few very very expensive keys as the exceptions. If I collected more early material that standard would have to change due to cost and availibility issues.
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  • Bossman88Bossman88 Posts: 638 ✭✭
    If it is a U S Mint issued regular circulation coin I always have an interest.

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  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I can honestly say that I do not lose interest no matter what the grade is. I have owned a Chain cent that was
    at best a Poor-1, just because the price was right and the chain was visible. If anything, a coin with a hole in it
    would be where I usually draw the line.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Such the snooty collector you are, Broadstruck. image

    If the coin is a nice, original piece, I don't really have a grade limit. I guess I am easy ... well, you know what I mean. image
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  • For most coins XF40 would be my cut-off; however, for some 18th century and early Bust Coinage (cut-off at Draped Bust coinage), I would consider down to F12.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't know if you call it a grade level, but when it's at melt level I start gaining interest. Below spot and it starts to make cents.
    Enough of that. The buck starts where it stops and it picks up interest all over again. Grading is subjective.
  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    Obviously, if I had loads of disposable income, I'd just outbid everyone and get the absolute highest grade with superb eye-appeal for every coin I desire.
    Now let me descend into reality; XF or higher for a type coin and a minimum grade of F-12 for a pricey date/mintmark set or scarce/key date.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The older and scarcer it is, the more tolerant I am.

    Never thought I'd spend four digits on a FR2 or G4. But I did for early copper, 1793.

    I like CBH's in XF or better. Small cents in MS64 and up. Keys can be anywhere, as long as they're eye appealing.
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I like them best XF or better, but if they're extremely expensive or rare in those grades, then I can tolerate as low as a G4.
  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I like the best XF or better. But if it's really expensive or rare in those grades, I can settle for at least G4.
  • 1Mike11Mike1 Posts: 4,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lincolns below XF but sometimes my wallet tells me different. My 14D is below XF but I'm having a hard time talking myself into spending $1000+ to correct it.
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  • JustlookingJustlooking Posts: 2,895
    I think "problem free" is the key. I don't like some MS 65 coins that have marks that are distracting. I think that's why a lot of people like the AU 58s.
    Let's try not to get upset.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are probably exceptions but I would generally say anything LESS THAN MINT STATE.
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  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,794 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A question that is impossible to broadly answer. Id take XF coins all day long in Vermonts, they would be condition census!
  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    In my personal collection I have two nice fine + coins, would like to have vf or better, but 1 I havent seen one i liked recently, second they are expensive the higher grade you go:


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  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It depends on the look, but if I have to pick a grade, I'd say Good and below.
  • rmpsrpmsrmpsrpms Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I only drop below MS64 if I can't find an example at that level or above. A few of the varieties in my collection are lower BU grades and I even have a few AU's, with notes to upgrade when I can. A small few are not known in BU, so I may have a long time to wait for that upgrade...
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  • swhuckswhuck Posts: 546 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Usually below G-4 I lose interest but I have seen a few AG-3's I would love to own. >>



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  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I am not happy owning Bust Series coins below PCGS 40 grade. Therefore, the high rarity coins will not be part of my collection. In the Classic Commemorative Series, I don't go below MS 62.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A casual comment by Bill Jones on these Boards changed my outlook on this issue. Since that comment, I look for vf+ for my long term keeper type coins. I remember because I had just bought a nice 1796 dime in G-4. I sold it he next week and never looked back. I agree that for many coins, particularly early type, and even more particularly for varieties, vf is just too tough to do, but other than for my bust quarter varieties, I now look for vf and better for my long term keepers. But to each his own.

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  • CoinlearnerCoinlearner Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭✭
    image Maybe if worse than POOR Grade image
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