1972 Eisenhower, proof, silver, no mintmark? [caution large pics]
jonathanb
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OK, I know this isn't a 1972 Ike proof stuck in silver with no mintmark. So what IS it? Massive grease filled die that affected just the mintmark area? I can't see any sign of a mintmark being removed, even among the (many) marks.
On my not-very-accurate scale, it weighs 24.9 grams, where the regular Ike below it weighs 23.0 grams. That's enough difference that I'm sure that it's silver.
You can't really tell from the pictures, but it has reflective fields, and an overall look that's reasonable for a circulated proof.
So... WTF?
On my not-very-accurate scale, it weighs 24.9 grams, where the regular Ike below it weighs 23.0 grams. That's enough difference that I'm sure that it's silver.
You can't really tell from the pictures, but it has reflective fields, and an overall look that's reasonable for a circulated proof.
So... WTF?
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I can't tell from the pictures though
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
But I think it is a type III.
Your weights are right for silver ( and clad) altho they seem to be .3 g high each.
I have no idea why a silver planchet would end up at Philly
Type 2 is incuse behind the largest crater. That will always show.
It's a beat up circulated Ike worth exactly $1
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
But it has the weight of a 40% silver planchet. Maybe it is worth $9 melt.
At least we agree it is not a type 2. All 1972 silver Ikes should be type 2. We still have a mystery here.
<< <i><<It's a beat up circulated Ike worth exactly $1>>
But it has the weight of a 40% silver planchet. Maybe it is worth $9 melt.
At least we agree it is not a type 2. All 1972 silver Ikes should be type 2. We still have a mystery here. >>
At least we agree that it's a 1972 "clad" coin of some two metals.
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Just a thought, how does your Ike's other specs compare to width and depth? Have you considered having it tested for purity like they do in a coin shop.
Another thought, though somewhat out there would be to do the old Archimedes test comparing against a known silver coin in your possession against this coin (something like an old physics or chemistry experiment from high school). Admittedly this is far fetched. But displacement did prove the value of a golden crown more than 2,000 years ago.
...an accurate scale is the determinate.
25 gm potassium dichromate
25 gm nitric acid
Silver= red or reddish brown colour
(only oxide and grease free objects can be tested, one drop is sufficient, rinse well immediately!)
Cheers, RickO
<< <i>Looks like it could be an old plating, they did that to a lot of them. >>
Thats what I was thinking too....
<< <i>Looks like it could be an old plating, they did that to a lot of them. >>
That's what I was starting to think also, an old plating job heavily damaged by circulation. I normally don't advocate destructive testing, but given how many other nicks are on the coin, would anyone notice one more on the edge to see if the clad core is hiding under there?
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Sorry
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
taking a razor blade and
cutting INTO/BETWEEN
the reeds on the edge,
to see if there's a copper
core showing.
Again, a cut into the space
between two reeds will
not harm the value of the
coin, no matter what it is.
<< <i>IMO, there's no problem
taking a razor blade and
cutting INTO/BETWEEN
the reeds on the edge,
to see if there's a copper
core showing.
Again, a cut into the space
between two reeds will
not harm the value of the
coin, no matter what it is. >>
I disagree with this for a fundamental reason. The reason it doesn't harm value is most people won't see it in a holder if it is valuable and if it isn't it doesn't change the face value. That said I don't think that anybody should cut into a relic and we don't really know how anal future collector will be.
but I disagree.
Given the condition of this
specific coin, I still feel,
IMO, that it would not harm
the coin in any way.
With the coin in question
in that condition, if it were
me, I'd do that rather than
spend $50-$75 to see if
it has a copper core.
The coin isn't BU, or even a
nice X.F. It wouldn't 'grade'.
<< <i>I understand your position,
but I disagree.
Given the condition of this
specific coin, I still feel,
IMO, that it would not harm
the coin in any way.
With the coin in question
in that condition, if it were
me, I'd do that rather than
spend $50-$75 to see if
it has a copper core.
The coin isn't BU, or even a
nice X.F. It wouldn't 'grade'. >>
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I knew it would happen.
Final verdict: heavy plating.
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<< <i>Looks like it could be an old plating, they did that to a lot of them. >>
Thats what I was thinking too.... >>
very well could be.
it would explain the funky color, lack of full 90% clad silver color, and the edge not showing copper.
<< <i>
<< <i>Looks like it could be an old plating, they did that to a lot of them. >>
That's what I was starting to think also, an old plating job heavily damaged by circulation. I normally don't advocate destructive testing, but given how many other nicks are on the coin, would anyone notice one more on the edge to see if the clad core is hiding under there?
Sean Reynolds >>
he could take a nail to the reeding.
<< <i>That coin is NOT silver. It doesn't even have the look of a silver coin.
<< <i>I understand your position,
but I disagree.
Given the condition of this
specific coin, I still feel,
IMO, that it would not harm
the coin in any way.
With the coin in question
in that condition, if it were
me, I'd do that rather than
spend $50-$75 to see if
it has a copper core.
The coin isn't BU, or even a
nice X.F. It wouldn't 'grade'. >>
I agree with the disagreement.
if done carefully between one set of reeding, the mark would be minimal and not really noticable if outside of a holder. Also, the reeding hss likely already suffered hard anyway.