Old PCI photo-certified holder.
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I don't have much experience with these holders, so would like to hear your opinion. I've been curious about these for a while, but haven't had a reason to purchase one until I saw this 8 Reales, my primary collecting focus, being offered.
Pictures are not fantastic, so I'm a bit anxious to see the coin in-hand.
Do you think it's a cleaned / hairlined dog, or did PCI grade to a higher standard back then?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
Pictures are not fantastic, so I'm a bit anxious to see the coin in-hand.
Do you think it's a cleaned / hairlined dog, or did PCI grade to a higher standard back then?
Would love to hear your thoughts.
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See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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<< <i>The coins in the old PCI slabs were mostly fairly conservatively graded but each coin should be evaluated on its own merrits just like NGC or PCGS slabbed coins. That's a neat old slab---there aren't too many like it around anymore. >>
Thank you for the feedback, guys.
Perry, do you know if PCI was heavily into World Coins back then? This is really the first example of an 8 Reales I've seen come-up on my radar in years. And I am rather meticulous when it comes to checking all the new / upcoming auctions and sales.
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<< <i>The coins in the old PCI slabs were mostly fairly conservatively graded but each coin should be evaluated on its own merrits just like NGC or PCGS slabbed coins. That's a neat old slab---there aren't too many like it around anymore. >>
Thank you for the feedback, guys.
Perry, do you know if PCI was heavily into World Coins back then? This is really the first example of an 8 Reales I've seen come-up on my radar in years. And I am rather meticulous when it comes to checking all the new / upcoming auctions and sales. >>
Not sure how much PCI was into world coins since I collect U.S. coins but perhaps someone on the World Coin Forum here might know.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
8 Reales Madness Collection
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<< <i>The coins in the old PCI slabs were mostly fairly conservatively graded but each coin should be evaluated on its own merrits just like NGC or PCGS slabbed coins. That's a neat old slab---there aren't too many like it around anymore. >>
Thank you for the feedback, guys.
Perry, do you know if PCI was heavily into World Coins back then? This is really the first example of an 8 Reales I've seen come-up on my radar in years. And I am rather meticulous when it comes to checking all the new / upcoming auctions and sales. >>
Not sure how much PCI was into world coins since I collect U.S. coins but perhaps someone on the World Coin Forum here might know. >>
There are a lot of world coins in the old photo PCI holders. I think the majority of the coins were US, but I have seen a lot of world coins as well.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>There are a lot of world coins in the old photo PCI holders. I think the majority of the coins were US, but I have seen a lot of world coins as well. >>
Must have been flying below my radar. Thanks for the info, Lane!
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That's a nice coin in a cool holder. I think you will be please.
I've always wanted a piece of 8.
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Nice toning inhand as well.
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Thank you again for the advice.
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How did that work out for you?
I just came across some gold in one. I'm very happy with my purchase. I lost out on something I really wanted but ended up with this so I call it a win.
I never seen this tpye of holder.
2002 Old thread alert but I do own. a few of these. I like the old different holders.
I should have picked up one or two of these when I used to go to shows in the PNW...A nice holder and of the one's I looked at, the grading seemed correct. Cheers, RickO
A few of the older grading firms used these way back, I buy these when I can find one where the coin is at least decent and the price isn't moon money.
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I had a 1892 CC Morgan graded AU55 in one of these holders. I got the same grade at PCGS when I cracked it out.. mh
I had several of the old holders back in the 90's. I wish I still had them.
I just bought a 1989 no-P Washington quarter with a clip in one of these holders, the seller had a few others w/o clips in the same holders. They are definitely an interesting chapter in the history of certifications, a bunch of different companies licensed the patent and made versions of these.
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The Accugrade slab is a three-compartment slab and covered by their patent (now long expired). The PCI slab is a TWO compartment slab, which gets around the Accugrade slab patent.
When Hallmark went out of business, PCI bought the assets (the small slab with the cut off corners) and switched. I don't remember who bought their old tech and who licensed it from them but it was used by INS, Global, and several others.
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Someone here was talking about them awhile back and said if you see em, buy em.
That's the kinda reckless buying advice that I live for.
I'll get better pics when she comes but I'm 1000% totally okay if it is an MS65 AGE. Never gonna crack it out anyway. My wife already loves it and it's not even here yet.
Nice. I've never seen an AGE in one of these old holders before.
That's the first generation of PCI with the grade on the photo and no information in the blank box on the reverse.
Later on, they took the grade off the photo and put the cert# on the back too. Finally, they added a bar code on the reverse.
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