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one heck of a double struck buff
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on ebay but here be tha snapshots...link incase someone needs it to be...is this even legit or pmd???
1924 double struck buff
1924 double struck buff
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It's also my listing.
The piece would be a true moose if it wasn't for that scratch.
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But I like 'em.
Mike
<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
It's a Type 1, no?
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
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<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
It's a Type 1, no? >>
Type 1, yes!
<< <i>It's a Type 1, no? >>
Nice call, Astrorat!!
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<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
It's a Type 1, no? >>
Type 1, yes! >>
They honestly should have put a date on that one!
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It's more like a mule deer than a moose with the scratches but it get's a big plus over the pcgs graded one because it's got a date!
Me likey a lot.
Freddie
<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
This is to cool!!!
<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
What's a coin like this worth in XF-45? Anyone know?
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<< <i>Here's an undated one that's in a PCGS XF-45 holder.
What's a coin like this worth in XF-45? Anyone know? >>
It was on EBay for $2500.00
<< <i>Didn't that PCGS D/S Buffalo just
close yesterday at $1,900+_ ?
(D/S = Double Struck, not D over S) ! >>
I wonder if that price is in the ball park?
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$3671
<< <i>on ebay but here be tha snapshots...link incase someone needs it to be...is this even legit or pmd???
1924 double struck buff
This same 1924 double-struck buffalo sold for $3600 in August 2012. Someone lost almost exactly 50%. It was in an NGC slab at the time: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1173&lotNo=4326
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<< <i>on ebay but here be tha snapshots...link incase someone needs it to be...is this even legit or pmd???
1924 double struck buff
This same 1924 double-struck buffalo sold for $3600 in August 2012. Someone lost almost exactly 50%. It was in an NGC slab at the time: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1173&lotNo=4326 >>
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<< <i>on ebay but here be tha snapshots...link incase someone needs it to be...is this even legit or pmd???
1924 double struck buff
This same 1924 double-struck buffalo sold for $3600 in August 2012. Someone lost almost exactly 50%. It was in an NGC slab at the time: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1173&lotNo=4326 >>
You're not looking at the timestamp of the OP. This coin was offered on eBay for about $1900, raw, as a BIN this spring. It did not sell. It was then certified and sold through Heritage for almost $3700.
<< <i>You're not looking at the timestamp of the OP. This coin was offered on eBay for about $1900, raw, as a BIN this spring. It did not sell. It was then certified and sold through Heritage for almost $3700. >>
My mistake, someone actually appears to have doubled their money, not lost money, except that they may have bought a counterfeit...
This coin I suspect is a counterfeit. I once owned a buffalo rotated double-strike with the same amount of strike rotation and also the same amount of wear as this coin (and it was from the 1920's--regrettably I don't remember 100% for sure if it was 1924, but I believe it was.) I still have a photo of the coin, but unfortunately just of the reverse, and comparing it to this coin, it matches perfectly.
At the time, my coin was determined by myself, John Dannreuther, and others as being a counterfeit. The reverse appears to match up 100% perfectly with this coin. I'd love to see this 1924 buffalo in person to determine if it is in fact a counterfeit, because it probably is. I actually purchased the coin as "genuine", because I didn't even suspect that a rotated double-strike buffalo with this amount of wear would be a counterfeit, but later it was determined to be a fake.
<< <i>Wow.... had not heard about the counterfeit issue.... any further information on this? Was the OP coin ever submitted to a TPG? Cheers, RickO >>
As I said, I did a bad job keeping photos of it (I only have a photo of the reverse, which does match this coin to a T), and so I can't say with 100% certainty it was a 1924, but I am 100% sure it had the same reverse die as this coin, and I also am 100% sure it was from the 1920's. Unfortunately, I don't remember for sure what it weighed. There where a few characteristics about it which proved it was a counterfeit:
1.The planchet quality was relatively poor. When you looked at the coin's edge, there was a granular, course appearance to it.
2.The reverse die, when examined under a loupe, had strong, circular lathe-like marks going around the coin, especially in the lettering and protected areas. Probably the low grade wore the marks off of the more open areas.
3.The coin just didn't quite have the "crispness" which you see on buffalo double-strikes (or genuine mint errors) (which this 1924 also lacks, in my opinion.)
4.The color was every so slightly "off", as this coin does (in my view.)
Was it a contemporary counterfeit or is it a more modern piece which was made to deceive collectors--I don't know.
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