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Any Civil War Token Experts ??... Cool New item I need help on

SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
Just bought a nice collection of Token which included this "white"? Metal piece Broadstruck or partial collar ??
What say you ?
sorry about pic quality

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,709 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Partial Collar Strike.

    Very nice!
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't ever commit a crime because those fingers look like they will leave some serious printsimage

    MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep.. partial collar... Cheers, RickO
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's white or pot metal as it's called in the UK is a composition of tin, zinc, lead, pewter, etc.

    There's no up charge on partial collars, broadstruck, misaligned dies, or clips on CWT's... Full Brockages are a different story.

    Many collectors of this series will even shy away on more common until they locate a perfectly centered example.

    On your example I feel that all the examples I recall seeing are either partial collars or misaligned dies.

    I don't have a Fuld book handy but feel it's a Patriotic F-229/359 series and most likely Rarity 7-9.
    To Err Is Human.... To Collect Err's Is Just Too Much Darn Tootin Fun!
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,773 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, the die variety combination is 229 / 359 e. It is rated as an R-8 (estimated 5 to 10 known).

    To be frank this type of token that is made from two reverses does not thrill me. The reason is that this piece was made for 19th century collectors, not as a Civil War token money substitute piece. The strike might be crude because it could have been made after the war from left over dies. It's not unusual to see odd strike characteristics on pieces like this.

    There are collectors out there who collect nothing but the very rare varieties. I’m sure one of them would pay several hundred for this piece, especially if it is certified. BUT I’m not one of those collectors. I would rather buy a piece that was made for its intended money substitute purpose.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?

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