1792 Birch Cent!

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mozeppa

wrong size planchet?

whats it say?

edit: its cool! .... way better strike than most 93's and up. (to a point.)

Matrix1980

Can't stand the black marks (ugly toning but hey I always hate toning) but I do love any coin dated 1792 from the U.S and with any 1792 beggars can't be choosers.

keyman64

Please tell us about this thing. Story behind it?

savoyspecial

>>...... but I do love any coin dated 1792 from the U.S.>>



okay, DATED 1792

from the U.S.? I'll get back to ya on that


(I have never understood why they felt the need to give Ms. Liberty a necklace -- the original was sans jewelry)

LotsoLuck

I like it

Pistareen

I've always liked the real ones. This one, not as much.

Billet7

Nope! Fun to own anyway.

Baley

best motto there is
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ricko

The motto is great... too bad it is not more prominent today. Cheers, RickO

CaptHenway

<< <i>I've always liked the real ones. This one, not as much. >>



John, on the real ones, do you have any opinion as to what type of plant those sprigs above and below ONE CENT are supposed to be?
TD

EagleEye

Is this a modern Chinese fake or an earlier-era fake?

BillJones

It's not even close to the real thing, but that's actually a good thing.

BTW the motto "Liberty the parent of science and industry" offers an incredible bit of wisdom. I wish that our current leaders would take it heart because freedom where all have the opportunity to use their ideas and their imaginations has provided many of the technological advances that we enjoy today. Sadly it seems that we are headed toward a controlled, “from the top down” type of economic system.

This motto did appear on the 1792 half disme.

DorkGirl

So it's a fantasy piece....

edix2001

Here's Gallery Mint Museum's interpretation, followed by Joe Paonessa's take on this year's ANA Host Chairman token in pewter:

STONE

<< <i>Is this a modern Chinese fake or an earlier-era fake? >>


Rich, it isn't a modern Chinese counterfeit, rather it is a slightly earlier reproduction

I have been unable to locate a duplicate example of this reproduction; that is to also
say that it does not appear to be the more common Gallery Mint reproductions.

edix2001

With those flourishes above and below the denomination, it's going to be a repro of the G.W.P. version (those initials actually show a bit on the OP photo.) Here's the Gallery Mint Museum version of that one:

Pistareen

I hate to say it, but it really is a modern Chinese counterfeit.

Here's where you can buy pieces from the same dies for $2.73 each: Counterfeits-R-Us

There is a guy in Alabama selling these and similar fake "Fusible Alloy" cents on eBay, often as wild errors.

Pistareen

Oh, and Capt.Henway, I haven't the foggiest clue. Then again, the engraver probably didn't either!

By the way, this piece copies the G.W. Pt variety which is unique, known only in tin. It was last sold in Garrett. I made a case in a Numismatist column a few years ago, backed up by new evidence from Jefferson's papers, that the Birch cents were the first 1792 cents struck, at about the same time as the half dismes. If that is true, the GW Pt is the earlier of the two varieties and is thus the real first American cent.

Breen placed them last among the emissions of 1792.

Coinlearner

Nice copper color and luster showing in my Gallery Copy

EagleEye

Baley

My gosh, that's Magnificent

STONE

<< <i>I hate to say it, but it really is a modern Chinese counterfeit.

Here's where you can buy pieces from the same dies for $2.73 each: Counterfeits-R-Us

There is a guy in Alabama selling these and similar fake "Fusible Alloy" cents on eBay, often as wild errors. >>


Bummer