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PRETTY BUFFALO - Did not sell last night...

keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
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What say you?
I am not sure if the minimum bid was set at $15,500 or if it was bid up to $15,000...probably the former.
1938-D/S NGC MS68....no CAC...no STAR...would it cross?...would it CAC?...what do you think is a fair price?
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The grade is "too high" for me. If I would in the market for that variety I would not want to have $15,000 into one of those coins, even it had a gold bean and a star.
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  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    THat coin came from the january 2012 heritage sale.
    It did sell there for $13800.
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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for the enlightenment. I think it is pretty but not $15K worth of pretty if you know what I mean...
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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    I'd rather take a 67 for $150
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd rather take a 67 for $150 >>



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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sure is a monster spread between the two grades.
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I love it when errors go for big money, what can I say, I have a couple (not buffs) and it pleases me to know that they will be worth hopefully a lot someday. >>



    Personally I think that this item and the doubled die coins are errors, but the error experts disagree with me. I guess they are really "varieties." The fact that they were errors in the preparation of the dies does not seem to count. image
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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really feel compelled to put in my two cents worth, or perhaps my five cents worth. First off I am 66 years old and have been collecting buffaloes for, say 56 years! So you can imagine that I have had the opportunity to look at quite a number of buffs in my day, both circ and proof and uncircs. For my money, and money aside, these astronomical grades assigned to a common coin do not in most cases justify the prices being paid by collectors. I know there are some to whom money is not object, but still lets take this coin for example, you could have it for around 15K or an MS67 which would look just as nice and really be hard to tell from the so-called MS68 and with the money left over (in excess of 14K) how many gem liberty head nickels could you have for the money you saved by not buying into the hype of the ms68 grade? It is almost a no brainer to me. I am waiting for the day that an MS69 1938-D buffalo nickel shows up in a PCGS or NGC holder There would be a gigantic food fight over a coin like this, a pop-one at that -- never to be duplicated!! (duh- ya right!)

    Right now on ebay there is an 1937 NGC MS68 buff being offered for $9,444 and change. Take a good look at the coin, or should I say "co n" and ask your self where is the value? I recently looked at a very nice 1937 NGC MS67 buffalo nickel at a local shop for which the dealer wanted $175! (I should have pulled the trigger on that one but I did not). If you want to look at the MS68 1937 coin on ebay the auction number is 180780449615.
    I am not saying that the coin is not correctly graded just that the money could be better spent on some other group of coins.
    Thanks for listening!

    buffnixx
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    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think everyone should be looking for Mercury Dime Varieties, driving the demand through the roof....so that when I want to sell mine in 20+ years I will not have wasted a ton of money. Everyone should start looking for the 1936-S FS-110. image
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess it wouldn't cross to PCGS or it would already be in a PCGS holder.
  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There was plenty of time for the owner to try to cross it to PCGS and/or submit to CAC.

    The pricing on this one is all about the plastic. That's not for me anymore.
    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I really feel compelled to put in my two cents worth, or perhaps my five cents worth. First off I am 66 years old and have been collecting buffaloes for, say 56 years! So you can imagine that I have had the opportunity to look at quite a number of buffs in my day, both circ and proof and uncircs. For my money, and money aside, these astronomical grades assigned to a common coin do not in most cases justify the prices being paid by collectors. I know there are some to whom money is not object, but still lets take this coin for example, you could have it for around 15K or an MS67 which would look just as nice and really be hard to tell from the so-called MS68 and with the money left over (in excess of 14K) how many gem liberty head nickels could you have for the money you saved by not buying into the hype of the ms68 grade? It is almost a no brainer to me. I am waiting for the day that an MS69 1938-D buffalo nickel shows up in a PCGS or NGC holder There would be a gigantic food fight over a coin like this, a pop-one at that -- never to be duplicated!! (duh- ya right!)

    Right now on ebay there is an 1937 NGC MS68 buff being offered for $9,444 and change. Take a good look at the coin, or should I say "co n" and ask your self where is the value? I recently looked at a very nice 1937 NGC MS67 buffalo nickel at a local shop for which the dealer wanted $175! (I should have pulled the trigger on that one but I did not). If you want to look at the MS68 1937 coin on ebay the auction number is 180780449615.
    I am not saying that the coin is not correctly graded just that the money could be better spent on some other group of coins.
    Thanks for listening!

    buffnixx >>



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  • JCMhoustonJCMhouston Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I guess it wouldn't cross to PCGS or it would already be in a PCGS holder. >>



    I'm not sure about that, there are quite a large number of collectors that couldn't care less about the holder, and even some that prefer the NGC holder design. Remember that here on the PCGS forums we represent only a very tiny minority of coin collectors.
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  • yellowkidyellowkid Posts: 5,486 ✭


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    << <i>I'd rather take a 67 for $150 >>



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  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another MS68 buff is on ebay right now, an NGC 1913-S type one. Asking price is over 16K
    A beautiful piece but my comments above still apply to this co(i)n
    offered by David Lawrence.

    190629923908 is the auction number if you want to take a peek.

    buffnixx
    Collector of Buffalo Nickels and other 20th century United States Coinage
    a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I totally agree with BUFFNIXX - Why pay 15 K for a coin that can be bought for 150 in the next grade down. And the is probably no difference in looks and eye appeal. The Registry top pop craze is not for me and my money.image
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,718 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I totally agree with BUFFNIXX - Why pay 15 K for a coin that can be bought for 150 in the next grade down. And the is probably no difference in looks and eye appeal. The Registry top pop craze is not for me and my money.image >>


    Crazy spreads in pricing were here long before there was a single Registry.

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  • MowgliMowgli Posts: 1,219 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I guess it wouldn't cross to PCGS or it would already be in a PCGS holder. >>



    I'm not sure about that, there are quite a large number of collectors that couldn't care less about the holder, and even some that prefer the NGC holder design. Remember that here on the PCGS forums we represent only a very tiny minority of coin collectors. >>



    How true !
    In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
  • WindycityWindycity Posts: 3,532 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Also, high grade Buffalo's have been soft as witnessed at the FUN show auction.
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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd rather take a 67 for $150


    It's a D/S not a D. It's gonna cost you a lot more than $150 for a nice 67 example.

  • 66WhiteFBL66WhiteFBL Posts: 214 ✭


    This coin is in an older NGC holder---used before the Star designation. It also has been artificially toned (IMO),as were many of the NGC MS67 & 68 coins
    that have shown up recently at auction.

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  • tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd rather take a 67 for $150


    It's a D/S not a D. It's gonna cost you a lot more than $150 for a nice 67 example. >>



    Even so, a decent D/S shouldn't run more than $600-700 in either PCGS or NGC plastic. Although the price gap is smaller than that of a regular 38-D, I'll still take a 67.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    I think buffs are nice and would rather pay a much lower price for a lower grade on than that much even if its in a PCGS holder or not. Also like a previous poster said, there are many of us that don't care about the holder
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  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Also, high grade Buffalo's have been soft as witnessed at the FUN show auction. >>



    I think the fairer thing to say is that high grade NGC Buffalos that are not stickered were soft at FUN. There was not much in the way of high grade PCGS coins at the FUN auction. I am not bashing NGC (I have respect for both major TPGs and the difficult job they have) but high grade NGC buffs have been hurt much more than high grade PCGS buffalos in the last couple of years.

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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    That coin is not a 68. The strike is too weak especially on the reverse. Max 65.
  • BUFFNIXXBUFFNIXX Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's a D/S not a D. It's gonna cost you a lot more than $150 for a nice 67 example.

    To tightbudget -- I was thinking about an MS67 1937 buffalo in my prior posts and not an MS67 1938-D/S.
    So I made an error there. Still 15K for a common dated "co n" from any grading service is insane. Take a MS68 1938-D buffalo and an MS67 1938-D buffalo. I have compared them side by side on a number of occasions from the same grading service and there was no way the 68 offered 10 thousand smackers of extra value over the 67.
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,421 ✭✭✭
    i'd rather have the proofs...give me those matte proofs...or those mirrored proofs of 36/37 or 36 satin any ol day over the 38 d/s
    15k to shop for those beloved proofs should about be the complete run too...image
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  • icsoccericsoccer Posts: 1,339 ✭✭✭
    California Dreamin! Keep your cash!
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭


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    << <i>I'd rather take a 67 for $150 >>



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    I would take a nice 66 for under 100 but thats just me

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