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Gold Russian ruble - Asian or European??

DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
Consensus question as I want to finish my fractional (sub oz) 6 continent gold box this year and don't necessarily want a panda if I can avoid it. And/or are there other gold options for Asia??

edit to add: would rather it be an actual money coin or a regular-ish bullion issue, not a commemerative.
edit 2 to add: want to avoid Chinese gold

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  • Russian rubles imo are European coins.
    A nice Asian coin, is you don't want a Panda, is the Unicorn.
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  • Russia is considered to be in Europe, geographically speaking.
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Russia is considered to be in Europe, geographically speaking. >>



    True, but I'm thinking USSR for the ruble, hence the question.
  • Iran has a number of fractional pieces and ones minted under the Shah should be easy to find here. It's called a Pahlavi.
  • StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Singapore has some fractionals. Linkage to Panda America for examples as does Laos


    I haven't read about your set--is it only ounce fractionals or just representative sub-one ounce gold coins? Japan also has some modern gold coins that are nice, like the recent 20th year commemorative. When you say rouble though perhaps you are looking for something more in the 'actually was used for commerce' type of thing. In which case, Japan has some 1-20 yen gold coins from the late 19th/early 20th century. A big hoard was released a few years back and these can be found in mint condition relatively easily (check Steinbergs, NEN or Clark Smith). If you go back a little further for Japan you could get a cool rectangular one too.


    Anyway, if you scroll down the left side margin of the Panda website you can maybe find other countries of interest, those were just the ones that occurred to me first.







  • << <i>Iran has a number of fractional pieces and ones minted under the Shah should be easy to find here. It's called a Pahlavi. >>



    Pahlavi is a classic and comes in various denominations. (see below the biggest)
    Also the Azadi (not sure about the spelling) is a cool coin.


    PS: USSR was still Europe.

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  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    I haven't read about your set--is it only ounce fractionals or just representative sub-one ounce gold coins?
    . >>



    It was going to be just small bullion examples, but South America was proving to be problematic and I picked up a British sovereign and some little pesos so I just figured sub 1/4~oz examples from each continent. Nothing fancy or anything, just want an interesting world gold small set. It's mixed now obviously but I'm leaning toward actual circulating pieces now, 2 years after slowly starting on this when I can keep my mind off my silver.
  • For South America you can go with the Peruvian Libra, they come in small sizes, are nice and can be found at little over melt.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A mint set of British gold sovereigns would cover all the continents except South America. The Bombay, India minted sovereigns would be Asian. Also, Siberia is in Asia and is a large part of the USSR and Russia.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,115 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are many gold coins from Israel, which is in Asia. There are also Saudi Arabian gold coins that fit.

    Turkish gold is another two-continent question.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    What is you coin for Antartica?
    Good for you.


  • << <i>What is you coin for Antartica? >>



    I have polymer banknotes!
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Russia is considered to be in Europe, geographically speaking. >>



    Look at a map---Russia extends all the way to the Pacific. More of Russia's land mass is in Asia than in Europe.

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    << <i>Russia is considered to be in Europe, geographically speaking. >>



    Look at a map---Russia extends all the way to the Pacific. More of Russia's land mass is in Asia than in Europe. >>



    My mistake, I was thinking populations, most of the east is empty.
  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>What is you coin for Antartica? >>



    I have polymer banknotes! >>



    Ha, yeah Antarctica has those banknotes as the only option. I was looking at those last year actually.
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are many gold coins from Israel, which is in Asia. There are also Saudi Arabian gold coins that fit.

    Turkish gold is another two-continent question. >>



    While considered a part of Asia...Israel is located near several transcontinental nations...and it's not much of a leap to see why it would (at times) be counted as a part of Europe.
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  • The continental system is heavily flawed and really makes no sense because there are no true parameters. Even geographers differ in opinion in regards to continental classification. You cant even go by the "historic" classification either as this changes. North and South America was considered just a single continent before WW2 for example.

    The most glaring example of this flawed system is of course the subject of the OP's quest. While the vast majority of land mass of Russia lies within the continent of Asia, the vast majority of its population resides within the continent of Europe. But since the term "continent" means a continous, uninterupted, large mass of land, Europe and Asia are by that standard a single continent. If you try to reason that a significant mountain range seperates the two parts, then you could make a case for North America being broken into 2 distinct continents as well.

    Since the categorization of the continental system is so inconsistant and flawed, I would personally drop the project as is. While it may take quite a bit more time....not to mention money......an even better set would be a gold coin to represent as many different nations as you can find. There are many, many small sized and affordable gold coins from perhaps 100+ countries.....both those that exist today as well as some that are now defunct.

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The end game is a wide variety, sure. Currently I'm at the whopping (sarcasm) number of 5 different countries.

    The short game is a piece of gov gold from the 6 living 'continents' and a ruble interests me more for Asia as I have a bunch of Russian friends. Right now Uruguay is leading the pack for my initial SA interests.
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