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relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
What would you grade it?



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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,946 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55.

    Wow, that's nice looking!

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  • stealerstealer Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭✭
    AU55 details but looks cleaned and retoned to me.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55, AT
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55.
  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    55 on good day, a 55 AT is more probably. A little conservation maybe?
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  • robkoolrobkool Posts: 5,934 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU55...
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU53 cleaned and retoned AT.
  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,248 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. 53 - 55 Dipped and retoned
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  • MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting color on this one. I say AU53.
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,993 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU53.....First Trade Dollar Chocolate Coin I've seen.....image

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  • DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭


    << <i>AU55.

    Wow, that's nice looking!

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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    AU53 cleaned & retoned
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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    I actually like the coin a lot. I'm in the AU55 boat but the strike looks maybe a little better.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very well struck. Could be a 58.


  • << <i>AU53 cleaned & retoned >>



    Ankur got this one just about perfect. The details are au55 but I am willing to be that the luster is muted form the harsh dip and the color is horrible.

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is prooflike and has pretty decent mirrors. This shot is straight on and has likely been dipped but has since retoned. This coin has an ANACS photo certificate and was graded poblem free. I can reshoot if showing the reflectivety if would help in your evaluation. The coin does not have hairlines.


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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,897 ✭✭✭✭✭
    58. I really, really like that toning. I say that without having any idea of whether it is AT or NT. I just like the look.

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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>The coin is prooflike and has pretty decent mirrors. This shot is straight on and has likely been dipped but has since retoned. This coin has an ANACS photo certificate and was graded poblem free. I can reshoot if showing the reflectivety if would help in your evaluation. The coin does not have hairlines. >>



    If it has mirrors I would say AU55 then. 76p Trade dollars often come PL and yours almost looks like a proof with the rims and denticals but its rounded letters and softness on the eagles wings say business strike
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say PR58. Didn't the Proof coins for 1876 have a period after grains rather than a comma? I am certainly not sure about this but it would better explain the super sharp denticles and strike.
    Hope I am right as value difference would be cool.
    Regardless, nice coin, JJ.
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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    for comparison, here is mine which is in an old white Anacs 58 slab:

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    It's very well struck but I believe it is also a business strike.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    55... but not original....Cheers, RickO
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,911 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll guess a PF55. Obvious light wear but very well struck. Can't tell if it's been cleaned from those pics but it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-55, cleaned and re-toned. The color is not natural.
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, kaz, that is one gorgeous Trade$. Thanks for sharing.
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  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Here is my PCGS AU55 which is the same die pair as Kaz's (note the unpolished die in the letter M in America and the concentric die crack on the Rev) and mine is very PL too.
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  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    When do we learn the actual grade? image.

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    -Aristotle

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>When do we learn the actual grade? image.

    -D >>



    How about now.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Anacs photos show the PL surfaces very well. Maybe it toned some in the holder?
    Crypto- yours looks very nice and thanks for the pickups on the die pair. I had not noticed the unpolished die around the M. Neat.

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭
    Looks like the prooflike surfaces fooled some into thinking overdipped/cleaned.
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  • I was going to say a 53 with pl finish.
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  • The older ANA vinyl(?) pouches, those accelerated tone as well as the later small white slabs? Those later slabs made some lovely purple and blue edges Morgans etc. I recall the original pouches to be "open", no?
    PL surfaces can retone some odd colors after a dip from I have seen, and not always yellow/brown/gold

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,889 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry- not a fan of this one

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  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Sorry- not a fan of this one >>



    That makes 2 of us. I'm not a fan of PL coins that have circulated as they usually look like beat up dogs. This is the third Trade Dollar that has held this spot in my certificte type set.
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  • COALPORTERCOALPORTER Posts: 2,900 ✭✭
    I think is a decent enough coin- put it up cheap enough and maybe.............image
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    I think that in 1982 ANACS was only using AU-50 and AU-55 -- 53 and 58 came much later.
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think that in 1982 ANACS was only using AU-50 and AU-55 -- 53 and 58 came much later. >>



    They were using 50, 53 and 55, but no 58.
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