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Is this ok to do on eBay?
10 oz silver bar but has $300 shipping.
They only charge you 1% for shipping fees, which would be about $3-4 rather than the apx. 9% fee if shipping was free which would be about $29

Item number 110798415707
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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    since the final value fees are charged on the total amount now I don't see the point . Unless they take returns but only refund the purchase price.


  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Auctions can and do still get pulled for unnecessarily high shipping charges. It's also a method of setting a reserve price, without actually paying for that service through ebay.

    He's basically just trolling for some newbies to bid it up so they pay way over market value once his shipping is added.

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  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    since the final value fees are charged on the total amount now I don't see the point

    Are you sure about that? I recently sold some things there and was charged 9% for the ending value and 1% for whatever I charged for shipping.

    If you're only getting charged 1% on $300 and 9% on $15, that is far less than doing it the "standard' way. If that's ok to do, I will be listing alot of 1 day auctions image
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭
    You willingly agreed to Ebay / Paypal terms and conditions when you opened an account. If you think violating those T&Cs to remove a few bucks from their pocket and keep it in yours...

    Fair disclosure - I own ebay stock.
  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 623 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They only charge you 1% for shipping fees >>



    I believe for auctions, there is a 9% fee on the total sale (price+shipping).

    Where did you get this information?
    Matt

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    Where did you get this information?
    By looking at the breakdown of fees for each item sold that I charged shipping on. If I charged $3 for shipping, there was a fee of .03 for shipping fvf.
    There are all auction style auctions.

    You willingly agreed to Ebay / Paypal terms and conditions when you opened an account. If you think violating those T&Cs to remove a few bucks from their pocket and keep it in yours...
    That's why eBay is a totally last resort for me. eBay sucks! They don't need to have 9% fees and then Paypal (which is all the same company) gets another 3%? Gimme a break, nothinjg but corporate greed at its peak.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excessive shipping can be reported via the report item link. Select LISTING PRACTICES > OTHER LISTING PRACTICES > SHIPPING RELATED CHARGES. You will then see this appear: "The listing has excessive shipping or attempts to circumvent maximum shipping costs set by eBay" as an explaination for SHIPPING RELATED CHARGES.

    Ebay does not allow excessive shipping/handling charges and clarifies in their "selling practices" as quoted below:

    "Be sure to specify shipping costs and related service charges in your listings. It's against our rules to provide unclear or misleading shipping information or to charge unreasonable fees for shipping and related services.

    What you can charge

    Actual shipping cost: This is the amount for shipping the item. It should be what you paid the carrier.

    Handling cost: This can include the cost of packaging materials and insurance cost, if any.

    Delivery Confirmation and extra services: If these options are offered to the buyer, you can only charge what they actually cost. Examples of services include:

    Certificate of Mailing

    Certified Mail

    Collect on Delivery

    Delivery Confirmation

    Registered Mail

    Restricted Delivery

    Return Receipt

    Signature Confirmation

    Special Handling

    Tax and government imposed fees: Only applicable federal, state, country, city, Value Added Tax (VAT), or equivalent taxes may be charged."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    recently i sold a transmission case for $113 shipping was $25.42 fees show $10.17 and $2.29 invoiced separately . 9% each.

    They pulled my power seller discount for a few months because my number of sales dropped image

    The numbers are back up now but somehow you always miss the evaluation period and have to wait a month. In fact if you miss 1 month evaluation You lose your discount for 3 months it seems like


    Your best bet with bullion on ebay is a buy now fees are 11% up to 50 then 6% after that. Auction is a straight 9% . I think fees are better with auctions up to around $85 then buy now pulls away on the top end. Since they cleverly charge you separate fees for sale and shipping you never get the low rate on shipping.



  • << <i>Is this ok to do on eBay?
    10 oz silver bar but has $300 shipping.
    They only charge you 1% for shipping fees, which would be about $3-4 rather than the apx. 9% fee if shipping was free which would be about $29

    Item number 110798415707 >>







    This is incorrect. Regular FVF is now applied to shipping. I dont know where you got your 1% number from.
  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭✭
    Using the ebay fee calculator and applying a number of scenarios (ebay store/no store, auction/fixed price, final sales price, shipping charge, etc.) the fee paid for shipping varied from 2% to 9% depending on what variables I used.

  • piecesofmepiecesofme Posts: 6,669 ✭✭✭
    I was charged 1% for shipping (for auctions that I charged for shipping) on every item that I sold recently which were all auction style auctions. I don't think I can say it any more clearly.
    To forgive is to free a prisoner, and to discover that prisoner was you.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,111 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is this ok to do on eBay? >>



    Report it to eBay---if it's not OK, they will pull it real quick.image

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was charged 1% for shipping (for auctions that I charged for shipping) on every item that I sold recently which were all auction style auctions. I don't think I can say it any clearly. >>



    Same here....I was also under the impression that FVF include the s&h fee, but it appears that eBay seperates the fees & charges a different % on each.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • carew4mecarew4me Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭
    9% on the final amount (incl shipping)

    Per Ebay:

    Final value fee
    (Based on the total amount of the sale, including the cost of the item, shipping, and any other fees a seller may charge, excluding any sales tax)

    9.0% of the item's total cost to buyer with a maximum charge of $100.00.


    Loves me some shiny!
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,119 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>9% on the final amount (incl shipping)

    Per Ebay:

    Final value fee
    (Based on the total amount of the sale, including the cost of the item, shipping, and any other fees a seller may charge, excluding any sales tax)

    9.0% of the item's total cost to buyer with a maximum charge of $100.00. >>





    Sorry...my math confirms what you posted. You will be assessed a separate s&h fee for the shipping charge, but it will be the same % as your FVF for the auction total.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I was charged 1% for shipping (for auctions that I charged for shipping) on every item that I sold recently which were all auction style auctions. I don't think I can say it any clearly. >>



    Same here....I was also under the impression that FVF include the s&h fee, but it appears that eBay seperates the fees & charges a different % on each. >>



    And this is why they still have an excessive shipping charge policy and include reporting it in "report an item."

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey



  • << <i>I was charged 1% for shipping (for auctions that I charged for shipping) on every item that I sold recently which were all auction style auctions. I don't think I can say it any more clearly. >>






    fees calc



    Enter as starting bid .01

    Enter as sell price .01

    Enter as shipping $300

    FVF = $27

    In YOUR scenario in the OP, Rich, you will be charged 9% on your shipping fee of $300. I dont think I could demonstrate this more clearly.
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