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Kennedy Half Dollar Error?

stevkcstevkc Posts: 166
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So what do I have here? This Kennedy is definetely smaller than it should be, but I wanted to get input on whether this is a legit error.

Mintmark is a P, and I can't really read the date. I think I can just make out the top of the "1" as the first digit so I am pretty sure it is at least pre-2000. My best guess is 1980.
I compared it to a SBA, and it seems to be the same size, but it is not perfectly round. You might be able to see a slight oblong 'bump' right at "In" on the obverse.
This is about the best I could do on the pics, and I don't have a proper scale to weigh the coin.

I'd appreciate some opinions--Thanks.

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  • CalebCaleb Posts: 739 ✭
    Grinder and buffing wheel? image
  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,173 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. PMD
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  • Bossman88Bossman88 Posts: 638 ✭✭
    Possibly struck on quarter planchet??

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  • stevkcstevkc Posts: 166
    It is wider than a quarter. Same size as a SBA.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,519 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMD
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,294 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It is wider than a quarter. Same size as a SBA. >>



    Did someone grind it down to use is as a dollar coin in a vending machine? A lot of work to save a half dollar but some people have more time than sense.

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin don't look right at all, PMD
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    High School shop project maybe.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would be willing to bet you that is one hundred percent post mint damage. That is a Kennedy Half Dollar struck on a Kennedy planchet and then "worked on" to be made to appear as a genuine mint error, which it is not.




  • stevkcstevkc Posts: 166
    Well, I was hoping someone would cite metal flows and other technical aspects that I wouldn't recognize and pronouce this is legit error, but I suspected this was post-mint. The amount of wear, including the black guck on the reverse, indicated to me that this had seen some circulation (I found it at the bank). An oddity like this just wouldn't stay in circluation long enough to get that amount of wear. So I figured it probably wasn't an oddity for most of its life and someone did some alterations later on.

    But, I'm still open to the idea that it is a rare error...
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,385 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll cite something technical for you:

    thickness.


    it's half dollar thickness, isn't it?

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,385 ✭✭✭✭✭
    also looking at the obverse, it is out of round at 8 o'clock.

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  • Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    I was going to say the clad layers on the edge are way to neat in their layering to be nothing but PMD.
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  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cut Diown, Polished, etc.

    The edge of the coin is not
    correct for an off metal coin.

    PMD without question.
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree with the consensus...Cheers, RickO
  • DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Somebody trying to cheat a pop machine? image
    Becky
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It is wider than a quarter. Same size as a SBA. >>



    Did someone grind it down to use is as a dollar coin in a vending machine? A lot of work to save a half dollar but some people have more time than sense. >>

    Interesting idea ...
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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When I was in grade school (a very long time ago) I saw this kid take a penny, work it on the concrete sidewalk until it was the size and thickness of a dime. He then put it in a laundry room change machine and got 2 nickels image
  • commacomma Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭
    Not to sound repetitive but it definitely looks like it was hit with a grinder.
    Doesnt even look close to a circle either image

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